POLITICAL THREAD

[Nightwish84]

If Biden is elected, you get an old man and the same establishment Democrats who have been in office for decades. And if Trump is elected... you really might see America divide.

I honestly think that's what many of you want. Not gonna lie.

But to keep it real, Trump ain't winning. Just not.

All you had to do was run a normal human being. That's all you had to do. A simple 2 foot putt.

Any moderate, Independent, Republican (who doesn't worship Trump), and the few on the left side of things here have all said the same thing regarding Trump's personal faults and baggage. He's too polarizing to win again. Don't let posters here fool you. I was reading and posting when many regulars reluctantly admitted after his loss to Biden that he couldn't win again and their party needed to go in a different direction. Haley would destroy Biden but apparently it's Trump or nothing, even in 2024. It's why I'm curious what happens after Trump loses again in the fall. Do R's just stick with him no matter what, follow his MAGA plan off a cliff, and then in 2028 let Trump be the nominee again? I think they will. He's literally got an entire party scared shitless that they won't exist without him.

 

[gollumcat]

As to your third sentence.

Why have no Arab countries helped them? Allowed them to migrate there from the 'open air prison'?

Seems a valid asylum claim.

Why not, Dion?

Explain that one before you spout one more word of drivel.

If it’s an open air prison, then Hamas has made it that.

 

[JSgorocks]

So, you changed the subject, which by definition is a deflection, then started ranting about deflecting. Only one of the two of us never changed the subject.

I answered your question bud. Here’s your sign.

 

[KAB Cats]

Any moderate, Independent, Republican (who doesn't worship Trump), and the few on the left side of things here have all said the same thing regarding Trump's personal faults and baggage. He's too polarizing to win again. Don't let posters here fool you. I was reading and posting when many regulars reluctantly admitted after his loss against Biden that he couldn't win again and their party needed to go in a different direction. Haley would destroy Biden but apparently it's Trump or nothing, even in 2024. It's why I'm curious what happens after Trump loses again in the fall. Do R's just stick with him no matter what, follow his MAGA plan off a cliff, and then in 2028 let Trump be the nominee again? I think they will. He's literally got an entire party scared shitless that they won't exist without him.

I'd guess many agree with you but won't admit it. Not sure why. It's not like they are swaying votes here.

He has the entire party on lockdown. His daughter in law is co-chair of the RNC. He has intimidated any Republican who dares challenge his power.

I think it was @Dionysus444 who posted a Zeihan video a few days ago on why Trump has now chance (one of many reasons). It was spot on.

Majority of independents and 'double haters' think Trump should end 2024 campaign: POLL

Over half (52%) of Independents believe Trump should end his campaign and within the even more specified group– “double-haters,”-- two-thirds (67%) think so.

abcnews.go.com

 

[KAB Cats]

I answered your question bud. Here’s your sign.

Right, now you're backtracking because you want all in on some bullshit rant about "deflection" when you were projecting. I don't even know what you're arguing about. thanks

 

[gollumcat]

She blockaded the entrance but whose counting

Even if thats actually true, do you think a 2 year prison sentence is appropriate for that woman?

 

[JSgorocks]

Right, now you're backtracking because you want all in on some bullshit rant about "deflection" when you were projecting. I don't even know what you're arguing about. thanks

Cool so there hasn’t been any backtracking. I know you don’t understand the conversation. I picked up on that pretty quick.

 

[sambowieshin]

No, I read the bill. Did a small amount of 3rd grade math and realized it did nothing to stop the flow of illegals which according to you they don’t want to anyway. So why is it a bill that anyone who wants the border closed would support? I couldn’t care less what some union rep said.

So both parties are just being good patriots trying to save the country by leaving it wide open huh?

All these immigrants booming our economy? Half of NY hotels are filled with illegals on the gov tab. Black community renters in Chicago are being replaced by Venezuelan gangs the gov is paying landlords for. You got 1000s of illegals sleeping on HS football fields. Hospitals are on the brink of collapse (remember how scared you were about the strain on our hospitals) because they’re being overwhelmed with illegals. CA already giving illegals free healthcare. Who pays for that?! Hospital CEOs have testified at congressional hearings over this and ALL members of Democrat house judiciary committee didn’t even bother to show up for.

Room, board, and food to live in a five star NY hotel for over a year now for some and you think they’re gonna go dig ditches???

Not even mentioning the security and health threats this is causing.

Trump was the best border President of our lifetime. BP was doing like 500-600 arrest a day and turning them back. Overnight when Biden took office that number jumped to like 6000. Now it’s 10-15k a day with a 97 percent release rate. “Surge the border” was his words.

It’s treasonous but like so many, you’d rather the country collapse than give Trump a political point.

#1. We need daily immigration. The US is currently at a Zero birth rate. No country can grow like that. It ends in economic disaster.
#2. Biden is now doing by EO what the Republicans stopped him from doing via the Border Bill.
You obviously can read but not always comprehend what you read.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/biden-to-issue-executive-order-on-southern-border-limiting-asylum-rules-a9a021a5

Biden to crack down on migrant flows by slashing asylum claims

WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden will sign an executive order on Tuesday halting certain asylum claims at the U.S.-Mexico border until crossings fall dramatically, a sweeping attempt to curb the

www.hastingstribune.com

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2/summary/00

***prohibits DHS from processing the entry of non-U.S. nationals (aliens under federal law) arriving between ports of entry;
***limits asylum eligibility to non-U.S. nationals who arrive in the United States at a port of entry;
***authorizes the removal of a non-U.S. national to a country other than that individual's country of nationality or last lawful habitual residence, whereas currently this type of removal may only be to a country that has an agreement with the United States for such removal.
***The bill would force the Department of Homeland Security to shutter the border if daily illegal crossings top 5,000 migrants on average or 8,500 in a single day.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/05/biden-bipartisan-immigration-deal-00139558

 

[Mash 2.4]

Why would that cause America to divide?

Just supposed to concede everything to the Dems I suppose because if they don’t like the results they’ll burn cities down and attack anyone wearing a red hat?

This is exactly what he’s getting at.

 

[BlueRunner11]

The country was burnt down when Hillary Clinton lost?

Bogus impeachments? The guy was on ****ing phone call recordings.

No the election wasn’t rigged. He lost the election, it wasn’t close and rather than respecting American democracy he tried to burn it to the ground.

He does have domestic terrorism groups who support him.

Banging porn stars? Cooking books? Rape? Yep. None of this is even being facetious. That’s the sad part. How anyone can have an ounce of confidence thats this man should lead the most powerful country in the world blows my mind.

Yes, a portion of the Dems have turned into anarchists ever since they didn’t get the election results they wanted in 2016. Do you need video clips?

The transcript? Or the Schiff version of what “Trump really meant?”

No, again I was referencing the riots starting in 2016. Election night to be exact.

Banging a pornstar is not a crime. Signing an NDA and paying hush money is not a crime. Literally nothing illegal about it.

Rape? Was he convicted of rape?

 

[BlueRunner11]

This is exactly what he’s getting at.

Yeah it’s the same thing @sambowieshin says. He doesn’t want to see more riots and chaos. Ok cool, then tell to left to stop since they cause 99 percent of it.

 

[BlueRunner11]

Honestly it was 30% Trump being a blowhard douche and 70% TDS . The reaction to Trump via media click bait an spuring outrage is the major force behind the massive divide. It was bad before but nothing like this.

Yeah sure but rioting and causing damage isn’t an appropriate because someone’s a douche.

If that was the case, the right couldve burned down cities when Obama was Pres.

 

[Nightwish84]

I'd guess many agree with you but won't admit it. Not sure why. It's not like they are swaying votes here.

He has the entire party on lockdown. His daughter in law is co-chair of the RNC. He has intimidated any Republican who dares challenge his power.

I think it was @Dionysus444 who posted a Zeihan video a few days ago on why Trump has now chance (one of many reasons). It was spot on.

Majority of independents and 'double haters' think Trump should end 2024 campaign: POLL

Over half (52%) of Independents believe Trump should end his campaign and within the even more specified group– “double-haters,”-- two-thirds (67%) think so.

abcnews.go.com

It's just a cult of personality. The thread changed once Trump won and his paranoid views spread here. Posters talk of others being sheep but I recall when Trump began using the phrase "the swamp." A day later, everyone here began using it as if they've been taught to lol. Same with 'rigged.' No one here used that word over and over, but once Donny began using it, it was all over this thread too. You'll get moments of truth like right after the 2020 election but eventually they all just fall back in line. Not sure why either. Carlson and Trump aren't reading this thread. It's why I'm in "forget the election...what happens afterward?" mode. Another insurrection blamed on Antifa and the FBI? More fraud excuses? MAGA sticking with their man until the very end? This thread will be having a moment, that's for sure.

 

[Mash 2.4]

It’s interesting that as it’s come to light all the deception around Covid that was used to control the populace. Also as Covid was used to change voting law. As phony “spy reports” were used to try to frame a sitting President. That potentially damaging evidence on a laptop of the son of a Presidential candidate was written off by current and former justice officials as Russian disinformation. As law fare has been used time and again against political opponents by the current party in charge. That its some crazy conspiracy theory that this party just might have committed massive fraud to win an election.

 

[sefus12]

Any moderate, Independent, Republican (who doesn't worship Trump), and the few on the left side of things here have all said the same thing regarding Trump's personal faults and baggage. He's too polarizing to win again. Don't let posters here fool you. I was reading and posting when many regulars reluctantly admitted after his loss to Biden that he couldn't win again and their party needed to go in a different direction. Haley would destroy Biden but apparently it's Trump or nothing, even in 2024. It's why I'm curious what happens after Trump loses again in the fall. Do R's just stick with him no matter what, follow his MAGA plan off a cliff, and then in 2028 let Trump be the nominee again? I think they will. He's literally got an entire party scared shitless that they won't exist without him.

You seem to assume the average person loves how the country is going. I bet a lot of folks out there will gladly take the brash asshole in order to get a better economy, less crime, and a controlled border back.

 

[luv2hit63]

MTG has more balls than all the lib/dims combined.

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Love MTG. Her thoughts and words mirror mine 100%.

 

[trueblujr2]

It's cool you got so many likes for repeating the same nonsense that gets repeated weekly.

The right said America was done after Obama won his second term.
The left said America was done after Trump won.
The right said America was done after Biden won.
The left says America is done if Trump wins again.
The right says America is done if Biden wins again.

In other words, the extremists on both sides are full of shit who just say the same thing every four years. America is not nor will it be done anytime soon just like dipshits who probably can't get laid aren't going to take over this country and start a civil war, over some overly tanned politician at that. What do moderates want the most (besides not having to choose between Biden or Trump)? Just be and act normal. Stop pretending the country will end because your favorite politician might not win. That's pathetic thinking and if you actually believe that, take several steps back and get some therapy. You sound cheesy with this "omg we're done I'm tellin' ya we're done if Donald loses!" stuff.

But America IS damn near done, if not already under Biden and those pulling his puppet strings. These sham kangaroo court trials, terrorists being allowed to flood over our borders unfettered, all our money going to fund endless stupid wars while Americans get zilch and told to sit down and shut up. Rampant crime that’s not being prosecuted or policed even (which results in these “lower” crime rates you all blindly believe) Americans being silenced, censored and persecuted for trying to defend their constitutional freedoms and liberties. Yeah, I’d say we were pretty damn right about America being done if Biden is elected.

 

[KAB Cats]

Yes, a portion of the Dems have turned into anarchists ever since they didn’t get the election results they wanted in 2016. Do you need video clips?

The transcript? Or the Schiff version of what “Trump really meant?”

No, again I was referencing the riots starting in 2016. Election night to be exact.

Banging a pornstar is not a crime. Signing an NDA and paying hush money is not a crime. Literally nothing illegal about it.

Rape? Was he convicted of rape?

I don't know what it means to say a "a portion of Dems turned into anarchists". By definition, those two ideologies are diametrically opposed. The only cross over would be an effort like defund the police, which was actually a convenient cross over of the far left and extreme libertarian fringe.

Unless you're using extreme artistic license, riots never happened in 2016. They happened after the BLM movement and in the middle of pandemics (and those two things aren't unrelated). Really not related to Hilary Clinton at all.

And yes, Trump committed a crime (actually multiple) when he banged the porn star and committed financial fraud to cover it up. He then blamed the justice system for him crimes.

We haven't even talked about the lead propagator of election fraud. Hint: The guy claiming the fraud actually has more evidence against him than any of the conspiracy theories propagated by the Jan 6 crew.

 

[KAB Cats]

Cool so there hasn’t been any backtracking. I know you don’t understand the conversation. I picked up on that pretty quick.

I literally started the conversation. You're projecting again. take a breather

 

[trueblujr2]

She blockaded the entrance but whose counting

How many protesters are being prosecuted and sentenced to prison for blockading Jews from accessing their college campus buildings?

 

[L.O.D.]

Yeah sure but rioting and causing damage isn’t an appropriate because someone’s a douche.

If that was the case, the right couldve burned down cities when Obama was Pres.

The rioting wasn't Trump that was the media drumming up massive outrage over Floyd . The race riots were the media not Trump

 

[KAB Cats]

How many protesters are being prosecuted and sentenced to prison for blockading Jews from accessing their college campus buildings?

Um, I don't know if we're keeping stats on that (or why you think it's a justification for people breaking laws), but there is an actual law that disallows people from preventing others from entering abortion clinics. She broke that law (intentionally).

FAFO as they say

 

[OHIO COLONEL]

i think i’m falling in love
🥰

She's my daughters congressman(person?). My daughter loves her. They've met several times at different functions.

 

[JSgorocks]

I literally started the conversation. You're projecting again. take a breather

We know you did. I’m literally responding to you fam.

 

[WTF Cat]

Yes, a portion of the Dems have turned into anarchists ever since they didn’t get the election results they wanted in 2016. Do you need video clips?

The transcript? Or the Schiff version of what “Trump really meant?”

No, again I was referencing the riots starting in 2016. Election night to be exact.

Banging a pornstar is not a crime. Signing an NDA and paying hush money is not a crime. Literally nothing illegal about it.

Rape? Was he convicted of rape?

You cannot argue with stupid people.

 

[KAB Cats]

We know you did. I’m literally responding to you fam.

k. good talk

 

[BlueRunner11]

I don't know what it means to say a "a portion of Dems turned into anarchists". By definition, those two ideologies are diametrically opposed. The only cross over would be an effort like defund the police, which was actually a convenient cross over of the far left and extreme libertarian fringe.

Unless you're using extreme artistic license, riots never happened in 2016. They happened after the BLM movement and in the middle of pandemics (and those two things aren't unrelated). Really not related to Hilary Clinton at all.

Again, back to the original point. You being worried about “division” if Trump wins. Here is 2016 for a preview of chaos and riots that you’re claiming never happened. Extreme artistic license not needed.

 

[BlueRunner11]

The rioting wasn't Trump that was the media drumming up massive outrage over Floyd . The race riots were the media not Trump

See videos above. I made not mention of race.

 

[KAB Cats]

Again, back to the original point. You being worried about “division” if Trump wins. Here is 2016 for a preview of chaos and riots that you’re claiming never happened. Extreme artistic license not needed.

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lol, taking isolated random incidents of weirdos and calling them "riots" is exactly the artistic license I was referring to.

 

[Mash 2.4]

lol, taking isolated random incidents of weirdos and calling them "riots" is exactly the artistic license I was referring to.

The classic isolated incident or “glitch” response given by liberals when caught in their lies.

 

[BlueRunner11]

lol, taking isolated random incidents of weirdos and calling them "riots" is exactly the artistic license I was referring to.

Coast to coast in nearly every major city after the election results were announced is not random or isolated.

There’s an obvious theme…you’re just ignoring it. If Trump wins again, you’ll see all this again. We can revisit this but I’d guess you’ll be nowhere to be found.

 

[UKBlueBlood]

Gee… if only there were a big ass wall on the southern border that created some impediment to just waltzing across the border illegally, and easier for the Border Patrol to monitor and enforce…

 

[BlueRunner11]

The classic isolated incident or “glitch” response given by liberals when caught in their lies.

Ridiculous the amount of crap they try to vanish down the memory hole.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Dipshit troll

Trump ordered to pay $44,100 in Stormy Daniels' legal fees

A California court ordered President Donald Trump this week to pay $44,100 in attorney fees to porn actress Stormy Daniels.

www.usatoday.com

 

[KAB Cats]

Coast to coast in nearly every major city after the election results were announced is not random or isolated.

There’s an obvious theme…you’re just ignoring it. If Trump wins again, you’ll see all this again. We can revisit this but I’d guess you’ll be nowhere to be found.

Stop bullshitting. It's not a game.

I do agree if Trump wins this time around we are likely to see riots. Not like weirdo anarchists burning flags, but real riots. I'd expect real conversations about secession to take place honestly. Not sure I'd go as far as to say they will happen, but it wouldn't shock me.

 

[BlueRunner11]

Stop bullshitting. It's not a game.

I do agree if Trump wins this time around we are likely to see riots. Not like weirdo anarchists burning flags, but real riots. I'd expect real conversations about secession to take place honestly. Not sure I'd go as far as to say they will happen, but it wouldn't shock me.

You’re right it’s not a game. There will be riots but again, there already were so the expectation is there. Those were real riots and far from some weirdo just burning a flag. The coming ones will likely be way more amplified, but it’s just a continuation of what started in 2016 when one side didn’t get their way and wanted to lash out.

 

[Mash 2.4]

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Stop bullshitting. It's not a game.

I do agree if Trump wins this time around we are likely to see riots. Not like weirdo anarchists burning flags, but real riots. I'd expect real conversations about secession to take place honestly. Not sure I'd go as far as to say they will happen, but it wouldn't shock me.

By all means. Burn your cities to the ground, then secede. I think the rest of us including Trump will be A-ok.

 

[sambowieshin]

Yeah it’s the same thing @sambowieshin says. He doesn’t want to see more riots and chaos. Ok cool, then tell to left to stop since they cause 99 percent of it.

There are idiots on both sides.

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

"Believe the science"

 

[JumperJack]

Stop bullshitting. It's not a game.

I do agree if Trump wins this time around we are likely to see riots. Not like weirdo anarchists burning flags, but real riots. I'd expect real conversations about secession to take place honestly. Not sure I'd go as far as to say they will happen, but it wouldn't shock me.

I pray to God in heaven that the blue areas riot and secede. I mean that with my whole soul.