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[Girthang]

So in this case is the map talking about azov or nazi % in each area?

 

[Dionysus444]

Why are we getting involved in Ukraine to an absolutely huge level, when we have abstained from getting involved in so many conflicts like it before? If we can't ask this one question, consider the recent and ongoing history, and follow it through to a logical conclusion, what are we really doing? This is just another Vietnam except we're forcing a global war and damaging all credibility in the process.

Because it's Europe. America doesn't care when brown people die but Ukraine is close enough to the rest of Europe that they, and by extension we, care a great deal. They're white.

Ukraine has been shelling their own people for over 7 years. The people they are bombing want to return to Russian rule. WTF would we want to help stop them? "OH, because an actor, a couple oligarchs, and a bunch of national socialist party loyalists want to kill people and launder money for politicians and munitions manufacturers in the US," DOESN'T sound ethical nor does it sound like our constitutional mandate AT ALL.

All of this hand-wringing about UKRAINE by the LEFT is because of the effed up pull-out of Afghanistan, and the complete snow-job the media has put on most of this country. If the LEFT WASNT SO CATASTROPHICALLY BAD at running ANYTHING that isn't propped up by government over-reach and overspending, they could end it that whole conflict with ONE phone call.

But EVERYONE HERE knows that's not what the left wants, no matter how much they say otherwise.

If they REALLY wanted to end all loss of life in Ukraine, and prevent the spread of this conflict, they'd tell NATO to stop fking around where they've agreed not to fk around. Tell NATO to pull out, tell Ukraine to let those who want to secede secede, and tell Russia that if that doesn't end the conflict that we will start bombing the shite out of them and their troops. It would be over tomorrow.

Can't make and launder money, or keep human trafficking going if they do that, though, so it won't happen. Can't distract from the utter failure of the covic lockdowns and pokes.

This is complete nonsense. What about the Russian offensives in Zaporizhzhia and Kherson? They're not ethnically Russian and no fighting was going on there. Russia just wanted them so they took them. This is not a war about preventing sectarian violence. And your threat about bombing them is insane. We can't fight them, they have nukes. What about MAD do you not understand? That's the whole reason proxy wars even exist. We can't end this war any more than Ukraine can. Only Putin has that power. Nothing about your fantasy narrative is based in reality.

 

[SDC888]

So in this case is the map talking about azov or nazi % in each area?

Vote for Svoboda party, which is/was the national socialist (Nazi) party.

(Nazi-lite is more charitable)

 

[Girthang]

Vote for Svoboda party, which was the national socialist party.

Thank you.

 

[55wildcat]

who here believes the Pelosi attack video's will be the uncut/ unedited version?

 

[Girthang]

who here believes the Pelosi attack video's will be the uncut/ unedited version?

Attack video? I thought it was Paul's "Return to Punk" music video... sht

 

[Dionysus444]

Thank you.

As he previously said that was at their height in 2012 when they got 37 seats. They currently only have 1 seat. Out of 450.

 

[UK82]

who here believes the Pelosi attack video's will be the uncut/ unedited version?

It'll be cut, including the gay sex.

 

[Marleydogg]

I said war pig first!

not that I can recall

That you did.

Give it time. Dude was absolutely unhinged on the Ukraine thread. Got it shut down being so obnoxious.

 

[Marleydogg]

Posting in a political thread making fun of people for caring about politics. And you call others clowns.

Then let's argue all day about LePen and Macron, or the various African factions in Kenya. No one cares about the nuances of Ukrainian politics, Dion. Except some clowns.

 

[Marleydogg]

Because it's Europe. America doesn't care when brown people die but Ukraine is close enough to the rest of Europe that they, and by extension we, care a great deal. They're white.

This is complete nonsense. What about the Russian offensives in Zaporizhzhia and Kherson? They're not ethnically Russian and no fighting was going on there. Russia just wanted them so they took them. This is not a war about preventing sectarian violence. And your threat about bombing them is insane. We can't fight them, they have nukes. What about MAD do you not understand? That's the whole reason proxy wars even exist. We can't end this war any more than Ukraine can. Only Putin has that power. Nothing about your fantasy narrative is based in reality.

So why do you care sooooo much?

 

[WTF Cat]

The ignore button cleaned that right up.

 

[SDC888]

Because it's Europe. America doesn't care when brown people die but Ukraine is close enough to the rest of Europe that they, and by extension we, care a great deal. They're white.

LOL... typical and predictable. The mind job they did on you people is really something else.

This is complete nonsense. What about the Russian offensives in Zaporizhzhia and Kherson? They're not ethnically Russian and no fighting was going on there. Russia just wanted them so they took them. This is not a war about preventing sectarian violence. And your threat about bombing them is insane. We can't fight them, they have nukes. What about MAD do you not understand? That's the whole reason proxy wars even exist. We can't end this war any more than Ukraine can. Only Putin has that power. Nothing about your fantasy narrative is based in reality.

War is Peace.

Ignorance is Strength.

He's not the one here with a "fantasy narrative."

So why do you care sooooo much?

Because he's a Marxist.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

 

[bertfan31]

That you did.

Give it time. Dude was absolutely unhinged on the Ukraine thread. Got it shut down being so obnoxious.

If anyone gets out of line to that extent, we can just ignore them. None of it really matters.

 

[Girthang]

LOL... typical and predictable. The mind job they did on you people is really something else.



War is Peace.

Ignorance is Strength.

Quoting one of our favorite videos of ALL time

 

[Dionysus444]

So why do you care sooooo much?

I said yesterday:

I care about the ideals of the Enlightenment and the lives that the people of Ukraine say that they want to live. Under democracy, not dictatorship. I applaud their fighting spirit and will to determine their own destiny. There is no draft forcing Americans to go die for this cause. The Ukrainians are doing it, and the Ukrainians are the ones paying the price in blood, both now and in the future. Like their Cossack ancestors. We live amongst history. If you don't care that's your defect, not mine.

 

[BigBlueDave]

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Tell tOSU

The New York Times

The Washington Post...




but not The Ukraine.

 

[Marleydogg]

I said yesterday:

Yes, and I mocked that first statement, as you are a self avowed leftist. (Communist)

Just wondering why you seem to care so much about Ukraine, and not, say, Yemen. Or any number of violent conflicts across the African continent? Since you were bemoaning that people only care about Ukraine because they are white. You kind of argue against yourself a whole lot.

 

[Dionysus444]

Yes, and I mocked that first statement, as you are a self avowed leftist. (Communist)

Just wondering why you seem to care so much about Ukraine, and not, say, Yemen. Or any number of violent conflicts across the African continent? Since you were bemoaning that people only care about Ukraine because they are white. You kind of argue against yourself a whole lot.

I've mentioned Yemen, Syria, and a host of other conflicts as they happen. I posted about Turkey's offensive against the Kurds a few weeks ago and got absolutely zero replies. It isn't me ignoring those conflicts, it's y'all.

 

[SDC888]

Gifts from NATO didn’t make Ukraine a force overnight. They had to earn it. Communists, anarchists, and fascists are standing shoulder to shoulder right now. All fighting together for their lives and futures.

 

[SDC888]

I've mentioned Yemen, Syria, and a host of other conflicts as they happen. I posted about Turkey's offensive against the Kurds a few weeks ago and got absolutely zero replies. It isn't me ignoring those conflicts, it's y'all.

Lot of posters have you on ignore.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[Gassy_Knowls]

I’ll just leave this here

 

[AustinTXCat]

this dumbass Trumpster ****ed around and found out. Attacked the FBI with a nail gun. got put in the ground.
sad how Trump has ruined what little brain power the far right had left

Man who fired nail gun at FBI building called for violence on Truth Social in days after Mar-a-Lago search

A man identified by two law enforcement sources as Ricky Shiffer also appeared to post Thursday about his failed effort to get into the FBI building.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Dionysus444]

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See, he can't claim full credit for the Euromaidan even in a forum of his own choosing. It was mostly a left-leaning coalition looking to join in the West's freedoms. Like he said, without the 8% Nazis it would've turned into a 'gay pride parade'. Meaning a bunch of liberals and leftists.

 

[Marleydogg]

I’ll just leave this here

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Yeah, I'm not saying dude is dead, and surely.not.cloned. but that covered up wearing a mask, shades and hat at that game was weird and suspicious as all hell. Where was the oxygen? Dude gets cpr for like 10 minutes and no broken ribs or sternum? Hasn't been seen since? Very suspicious.

 

[SDC888]

See, he can't claim full credit for the Euromaidan even in a forum of his own choosing. It was mostly a left-leaning coalition looking to join in the West's freedoms. Like he said, without the 8% Nazis it would've turned into a 'gay pride parade". Meaning a bunch of liberals and leftists.

You see nothing. He claimed that ~8% were responsible for 90%, that nothing would've happened wihtout them.

He's right, he would know, and that's the point. And support for Maidan at the time was only about 50% of the country in the first place.

 

[Gassy_Knowls]

Yeah, I'm not saying dude is dead, and surely.not.cloned. but that covered up wearing a mask, shades and hat at that game was weird and suspicious as all hell. Where was the oxygen? Dude gets cpr for like 10 minutes and no broken ribs or sternum? Hasn't been seen since? Very suspicious.

Same. Just weird

 

[jameslee32]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[vhcat70]

Yes they do, before the invasion they stated their goal whether you agree with their reasons or not. It was to “ liberate” the Eastern portion of Ukraine that had separated. They now are in control of those areas.
Russia reiterated that they were going to fight until all of Luhansk and Donbas were in their hands and that’s exactly what they’re doing now.

So why did they go after Kyiv & Kharkiv? Why are they in Zaporizhzhia & Kherson? Why did the parts of Luhansk and Donbas the separatists didn't control need to be liberated? Bottom line, you believe what the said regardless of the reasons, not what they did & are trying to do. You're brainwashed.

 

[vhcat70]

Yep, we kicked you Romney Bush McCain war mongers to the curb. Fret not! The democrats are everything you adore!

You must love McCarthy's Ukraine lapel pin.

 

[vhcat70]

In what war have we fought to win in the last 70 years?
We haven’t, we’ve fought just enough to make a war last to make people rich.

Militarily, we won in Kuwait & Iraq. We kept S. Korea free - that's winning..

 

[vhcat70]

Will the mods allow a new pinned thread for BigBlueFanGa so he has a place to post about his war mongering and his thirst for the military industrial complex.

Typical. You & your cult somehow think you own this thread. Take you Russia love elsewhere.

 

[hmt5000]

This is who Biden is nominating for judges.

 

[vhcat70]

Dude. Please go away. You got the Russian thread shut down and now you singlehandedly are ruining this thread.

Stop posting 20 posts a page about the mf'ing Ukraine. We don't care!

BS. Stop claiming Ukrainians are Nazis & rooting for Russia & you won't have this "problem". You bring it on yourselves.

 

[vhcat70]

Boys, will we make it to 560k posts before BIGBLUEFANGA gets this thread closed, because he has to insultingly respond to every different poster who disagrees with his war pig ways?

Yea, you just never ever insult anyone who disagrees with your views. Hilarious.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[vhcat70]

I found your image. This is from 2013, members of the Svoboda party. At its peak it had 15000 members, in a country of millions. It has almost zero support in Ukraine today.

This is just one of your frequent misrepresentations. Maybe you should research more before posting. I hope the year caught your eye. That was when a Russian puppet was President, before the 2014 revolt that got rid of him.

glad you have the energy to refute their nonsense.