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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
Bill, votes were counted per PA state law. Below is from the votepa website. Do you ever tire be


Provisional Ballot
If you are a registered voter but your eligibility to vote at your polling place is uncertain, you have the right to vote a provisional ballot.

What is a provisional ballot?
Sometimes county elections officials need more time to determine a voter's eligibility to vote. Election officials may ask that voter to vote a provisional ballot. A provisional ballot records your vote while the county board of elections determines whether it can be counted.

You may be issued a provisional ballot for the reasons below:
  • Your name was not in the poll book or supplemental poll book.
    • For example, you reported to the wrong precinct; or
    • You did not report a recent change in residence to the county election office.
  • You are required to show ID, but cannot show ID.
  • Your eligibility was challenged by an election official.
  • You were issued but did not successfully vote an absentee or mail‐in ballot and you do not surrender your ballot at the polling place to be spoiled.
  • You returned a completed absentee or mail‐in ballot that was rejected by the county board of elections and you believe you are eligible to vote.
  • There is a special court order with respect to your registration status.
  • There is a special court order related to extending the hours of voting.
  • You believe that you are registered in a political party, but your voter record indicates otherwise (for primary elections only).

How do I vote a provisional ballot?
If you vote by provisional ballot, you will be asked to follow these instructions:
  1. Complete the sections on the provisional envelope labeled Voter Information, Voter Affidavit for Provisional Ballot, and Current Address in front of election officials.
  2. Mark your provisional ballot in an accessible and private area of the polling place.
  3. Seal your provisional ballot in the secrecy envelope.
  4. Seal the secrecy envelope in the provisional ballot affidavit envelope.
  5. Fill out the Voter Signature section on the provisional ballot envelope in front of polling place election officials.
  6. Return the sealed provisional ballot affidavit envelope to a polling place election official.
  7. Receive your provisional ballot identification receipt.

How are provisional ballots counted?

Within 7 days after the election, the county board of elections will decide whether you were eligible to vote at the election district where you voted the provisional ballot. If you were eligible, they will count your provisional ballot.

Again, have they been verified, that’s my point. PA isn’t going to do an audit or recount

So, thousands of voters used provisional ballots, it didn’t say how many, but it did say abnormally large amount. They didn’t need ID or signature match. Within 7 days they had to show ID, have they?
Again, that should be pretty easy to verify if the secrecy envelope was maintained.

Don’t you think in stakes this high they should be checked? If PA is unable to check them for ID verification they are illegal votes?

Also, the PA legislature approved counting ballots 3 days prior to Election Day, the Democrats wanted 21, the gov vetoed it, why?
 
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Again, have they been verified, that’s my point. PA isn’t going to do an audit or recount

So, thousands of voters used provisional ballots, it didn’t say how many, but it did say abnormally large amount. They didn’t need ID or signature match. Within 7 days they had to show ID, have they?
Again, that should be pretty easy to verify if the secrecy envelope was maintained.

Don’t you think in stakes this high they should be checked? If PA is unable to check them for ID verification they are illegal votes?
Bill, what evidence do you have that illegal votes were counted? What is your evidence that the provisions for which provisional ballots were counted, were not met?
You have nothing. You keep just throwing shit against the wall hoping that something will stick. Put up or shut up about it...or continue to be made a fool.
 
Bill, what evidence do you have that illegal votes were counted? What is your evidence that the provisions for which provisional ballots were counted, were not met?
You have nothing. You keep just throwing shit against the wall hoping that something will stick. Put up or shut up about it...or continue to be made a fool.

The entire election was a cluster, in this thread people have shown the statistical impossibilities of what happened a handfulof swing states. Millions of people don’t trust this election process, the security was watered down to nonexistent in many states.
The states law requires they get id to verify those votes, the court mandated it, states ignored the constitution in changing laws, it’s a freaking joke. This is one of those times when full transparency is required.

It’s like you live in some make believe world where for 3 years all you preached was election integrity, and now that we made a joke of election security you don’t give a shit. I’m telling you right now, what has happened is dangerous for this country moving forward. Play it off all you want.
 
The entire election was a cluster, in this thread people have shown the statistical impossibilities of what happened a handfulof swing states. Millions of people don’t trust this election process, the security was watered down to nonexistent in many states.
The states law requires they get id to verify those votes, the court mandated it, states ignored the constitution in changing laws, it’s a freaking joke. This is one of those times when full transparency is required.

It’s like you live in some make believe world where for 3 years all you preached was election integrity, and now that we made a joke of election security you don’t give a shit. I’m telling you right now, what has happened is dangerous for this country moving forward. Play it off all you want.
TRUMP LOST
 
now that yet another ban for basically no reason is over I want to say to the liberals who censor this board...it's despicable that you tolerate the garbage that's posted by these left wing trolls but you have a hard on for me. Well you're not gonna shut me up no sir

You should do something about it. Baby In Chief doesnt like losers and only a loser would stand for something so vile as being banned.


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Again, have they been verified, that’s my point. PA isn’t going to do an audit or recount

So, thousands of voters used provisional ballots, it didn’t say how many, but it did say abnormally large amount. They didn’t need ID or signature match. Within 7 days they had to show ID, have they?
Again, that should be pretty easy to verify if the secrecy envelope was maintained.

Don’t you think in stakes this high they should be checked? If PA is unable to check them for ID verification they are illegal votes?

Also, the PA legislature approved counting ballots 3 days prior to Election Day, the Democrats wanted 21, the gov vetoed it, why?
PA isn’t doing a recount because the margin falls outside the parameters required for a recount. If Trump wants one, he can pay for it.
He is 60,000 votes behind. A big variation in a recount might move the numbers 100 votes one way or the other. It’s not changing them by 60,000

They passed a bill that had other provisions not acceptable to the governor. As is always the case, when to count the ballots wasn’t the only measure of the bill. Regardless, it doesn’t change the final result. It just took a few days longer to get there.

You keep asking if IDs were checked. Their election law says that they are. You have to provide proof otherwise.

The voter turnout was larger than normal, is it any wonder that the number of provisional ballots was higher?
The burden of proof is on you and you’re not doing it.
 
now that yet another ban for basically no reason is over I want to say to the liberals who censor this board...it's despicable that you tolerate the garbage that's posted by these left wing trolls but you have a hard on for me. Well you're not gonna shut me up no sir
Welcome back!

Personally, im about to ignore a lot of these libs. They really have nothing intelligent to say. All they say is moron media misinformation. I had hoped to have some healthy debates, but have been severely disappointed. As an example, every single one of their posts today has sounded like a spoiled child. They offer nothing mentally, because they have nothing mentally.
 
PA isn’t doing a recount because the margin falls outside the parameters required for a recount. If Trump wants one, he can pay for it.
He is 60,000 votes behind. A big variation in a recount might move the numbers 100 votes one way or the other. It’s not changing them by 60,000

They passed a bill that had other provisions not acceptable to the governor. As is always the case, when to count the ballots wasn’t the only measure of the bill. Regardless, it doesn’t change the final result. It just took a few days longer to get there.

You keep asking if IDs were checked. Their election law says that they are. You have to provide proof otherwise.

The voter turnout was larger than normal, is it any wonder that the number of provisional ballots was higher?
The burden of proof is on you and you’re not doing it.

The provisional ballot count was higher because people voted that couldn’t prove they were registered or didn’t have ID.

Also, this year about 88% of provisional ballots were counted as legal, that’s also abnormally high, it’s normally about 50%.

There election also states that mail in ballots must be received by Election Day, how’d that turnout?

No amount of evidence will suffice to you, just like Russian collusion, you think they helped Trump even though they got all they wanted from Obama. You lack any reasoning ability.
 
The entire election was a cluster, in this thread people have shown the statistical impossibilities of what happened a handfulof swing states. Millions of people don’t trust this election process, the security was watered down to nonexistent in many states.
The states law requires they get id to verify those votes, the court mandated it, states ignored the constitution in changing laws, it’s a freaking joke. This is one of those times when full transparency is required.

It’s like you live in some make believe world where for 3 years all you preached was election integrity, and now that we made a joke of election security you don’t give a shit. I’m telling you right now, what has happened is dangerous for this country moving forward. Play it off all you want.
Bill, those statistical gymnastics posted here have been done with data that is simply wrong.
You keep saying that states didn’t verify things yet present zero proof.
You claim that people don’t have faith in the process...duh, because they listen to people who have lied to them for years and are brainwashed. That isn’t my problem. That’s a GOP problem that they have been unable/unwilling to call out those forces, unwilling to challenge Trump on his baseless claims. If you don’t accept reality, if you want to live In some alternative universe of “alternative facts”, you only want to listen to an echo chamber of information and reject anybody who tells you you’re wrong...why is that my problem?
Eventually you’ll figure it out. It will take some longer than others, some will be too prideful to admit being brainwashed but that’s where we are.
When this is all behind us you have two choices...either accept reality or continue to live in denial.
 
Bill, those statistical gymnastics posted here have been done with data that is simply wrong.
You keep saying that states didn’t verify things yet present zero proof.
You claim that people don’t have faith in the process...duh, because they listen to people who have lied to them for years and are brainwashed. That isn’t my problem. That’s a GOP problem that they have been unable/unwilling to call out those forces, unwilling to challenge Trump on his baseless claims. If you don’t accept reality, if you want to live In some alternative universe of “alternative facts”, you only want to listen to an echo chamber of information and reject anybody who tells you you’re wrong...why is that my problem?
Eventually you’ll figure it out. It will take some longer than others, some will be too prideful to admit being brainwashed but that’s where we are.
When this is all behind us you have two choices...either accept reality or continue to live in denial.

well neither side is gonna see it the others way. That's why civil war is basically now an inevitability
 
Bill, those statistical gymnastics posted here have been done with data that is simply wrong.
You keep saying that states didn’t verify things yet present zero proof.
You claim that people don’t have faith in the process...duh, because they listen to people who have lied to them for years and are brainwashed. That isn’t my problem. That’s a GOP problem that they have been unable/unwilling to call out those forces, unwilling to challenge Trump on his baseless claims. If you don’t accept reality, if you want to live In some alternative universe of “alternative facts”, you only want to listen to an echo chamber of information and reject anybody who tells you you’re wrong...why is that my problem?
Eventually you’ll figure it out. It will take some longer than others, some will be too prideful to admit being brainwashed but that’s where we are.
When this is all behind us you have two choices...either accept reality or continue to live in denial.

You are unbelievable, what I and millions of people think about this election have nothing to do with Trump, it has everything to do with reality. Election laws were loosened to a point of absurdity this year, you know it too, you just don’t care. You are honest to god delusional.

You literally cannot accept that there was no Russian collusion, you’re still insisting it was real.
 
Odd that you believe the military would be on the side of the same individuals that want to end parts of the constitution they don’t agree with. The parts that shall not be infringed.

I’m sure your kin said the same type of ish when the British came in 1776 and that’s why you ended up a eBay buyer and seller. It’s in your blood

the constitution can be amended ............. its been allowed since it was created if it gets a majority. if you dont like that fact, then you truly do not value the entire constitution.... just the part of the constitution that fits what you like.

but its pretty hard to get ....... which makes the rights cries about it for 60 years feel like the boy that cried wolf.
 
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