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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
Not offering any opinions on anything but odds for the 2024 GOP Nominee are out!

Where does everyone see value here? I like Scott at +1400, DeSantis at +3500, Rand at +4000. Not that I am predicting any of them win it, but those are good value to me.


  • Donald Trump+400
  • Mike Pence+400
  • Nikki Haley+500
  • John Kasich+800
  • Josh Hawley+1000
  • Ted Cruz+1200
  • Tim Scott+1400
  • Tom Cotton+1400
  • Dan Crenshaw+1600
  • Bill Weld+2000
  • Paul Ryan+2000
  • Carly Fiorina+2500
  • Donald Trump Jr.+2500
  • Mark Cuban+2500
  • Rudy Giuliani+2500
  • Kristi Noem+3000
  • Candace Owens+3300
  • Ron DeSantis+3500
  • Mitt Romney+4000
  • Rand Paul+4000
  • Jared Kushner+5000
  • Condoleezza Rice+6000
  • Mike Pompeo+6000
  • Jeff Flake+7500
  • Lindsey Graham+7500
  • Charlie Baker+8000
  • Greg Abbott+8000
  • Tommy Tuberville+8000
  • George P. Bush+10000
  • Kanye West+10000
  • Kayleigh McEnany+15000

I'd vote for Candance Owens or Kayleigh McEnany just because
 
John Kasich, Mark Cuban, Mitt Romney...Lol. Just lmao. The RINOs are never getting the party back.

They should run Scott and Crenshaw - "Hey, you dems wanted diversity, we nominated a black guy and a cyclops."

ETA I like Crenshaw and this is meant completely as a joke and not to be insulting nor derogatory in any way.
 
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The controllers aren't dumb.... "private health insurance" vs "socialized healthcare" is heads I win tails you lose. Either you "voluntarily" (read incentivized through the tax code) funnel wages into a shitty system, or get a shitty system funded via printed money and alleged tax receipts.

Insurance isn't healthcare and government healthcare is insane and sucks.
 
Not offering any opinions on anything but odds for the 2024 GOP Nominee are out!

Where does everyone see value here? I like Scott at +1400, DeSantis at +3500, Rand at +4000. Not that I am predicting any of them win it, but those are good value to me.


  • Donald Trump+400
  • Mike Pence+400
  • Nikki Haley+500
  • John Kasich+800
  • Josh Hawley+1000
  • Ted Cruz+1200
  • Tim Scott+1400
  • Tom Cotton+1400
  • Dan Crenshaw+1600
  • Bill Weld+2000
  • Paul Ryan+2000
  • Carly Fiorina+2500
  • Donald Trump Jr.+2500
  • Mark Cuban+2500
  • Rudy Giuliani+2500
  • Kristi Noem+3000
  • Candace Owens+3300
  • Ron DeSantis+3500
  • Mitt Romney+4000
  • Rand Paul+4000
  • Jared Kushner+5000
  • Condoleezza Rice+6000
  • Mike Pompeo+6000
  • Jeff Flake+7500
  • Lindsey Graham+7500
  • Charlie Baker+8000
  • Greg Abbott+8000
  • Tommy Tuberville+8000
  • George P. Bush+10000
  • Kanye West+10000
  • Kayleigh McEnany+15000

 
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John Kasich, Mark Cuban, Mitt Romney...Lol. Just lmao. The RINOs are never getting the party back.

If you think Trump gets this year's result overturned, Pence is massive value at +400, because he would become the overwhelming favorite with Trump not able to run again.
 
Not offering any opinions on anything but odds for the 2024 GOP Nominee are out!

Where does everyone see value here? I like Scott at +1400, DeSantis at +3500, Rand at +4000. Not that I am predicting any of them win it, but those are good value to me.


  • Donald Trump+400
  • Mike Pence+400
  • Nikki Haley+500
  • John Kasich+800
  • Josh Hawley+1000
  • Ted Cruz+1200
  • Tim Scott+1400
  • Tom Cotton+1400
  • Dan Crenshaw+1600
  • Bill Weld+2000
  • Paul Ryan+2000
  • Carly Fiorina+2500
  • Donald Trump Jr.+2500
  • Mark Cuban+2500
  • Rudy Giuliani+2500
  • Kristi Noem+3000
  • Candace Owens+3300
  • Ron DeSantis+3500
  • Mitt Romney+4000
  • Rand Paul+4000
  • Jared Kushner+5000
  • Condoleezza Rice+6000
  • Mike Pompeo+6000
  • Jeff Flake+7500
  • Lindsey Graham+7500
  • Charlie Baker+8000
  • Greg Abbott+8000
  • Tommy Tuberville+8000
  • George P. Bush+10000
  • Kanye West+10000
  • Kayleigh McEnany+15000

I'll book anybody's bet for John Kasich at +800. Hell, I'll give you +1000 for him. Lol...
 
I'll book anybody's bet for John Kasich at +800. Hell, I'll give you +1000 for him. Lol...

Yeah that one stood out big to me as a huge miss.

Also, belated apologies for last Tuesday. I was so sure Trump was winning that I didn't hedge even a dollar when the odds were flipping around. Holding out hope that it can still happen but it looks like I am staring at a big loss. My kids' Xmas will be a little sadder :D
 
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I was thinking Crenshaw would have good value as well.

What’s the odds on the Dem nominee? Biden or Harris?



Winner


  • Kamala Harris+300
  • Joe Biden+500
  • Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez+600
  • Andrew Yang+800
  • Beto O'Rourke+1000
  • Michelle Obama+1000
  • Andrew Cuomo+1200
  • Bernie Sanders+1200
  • Elizabeth Warren+1200
  • Stacey Abrams+1200
  • Pete Buttigieg+1500
  • Michael Bennet+2000
  • Michael Bloomberg+2000
  • Amy Klobuchar+2500
  • Cory Booker+2500
  • Gretchen Whitmer+2500
  • Deval Patrick+3500
  • Sherrod Brown+3500
  • Tulsi Gabbard+3500
  • Val Demmings+4000
  • Hillary Clinton+5000
  • Kirsten Gillibrand+10000
  • Tammy Baldwin+10000
  • Tammy Duckworth+10000
 
Not offering any opinions on anything but odds for the 2024 GOP Nominee are out!

Where does everyone see value here? I like Scott at +1400, DeSantis at +3500, Rand at +4000. Not that I am predicting any of them win it, but those are good value to me.


  • Donald Trump+400
  • Mike Pence+400
  • Nikki Haley+500
  • John Kasich+800
  • Josh Hawley+1000
  • Ted Cruz+1200
  • Tim Scott+1400
  • Tom Cotton+1400
  • Dan Crenshaw+1600
  • Bill Weld+2000
  • Paul Ryan+2000
  • Carly Fiorina+2500
  • Donald Trump Jr.+2500
  • Mark Cuban+2500
  • Rudy Giuliani+2500
  • Kristi Noem+3000
  • Candace Owens+3300
  • Ron DeSantis+3500
  • Mitt Romney+4000
  • Rand Paul+4000
  • Jared Kushner+5000
  • Condoleezza Rice+6000
  • Mike Pompeo+6000
  • Jeff Flake+7500
  • Lindsey Graham+7500
  • Charlie Baker+8000
  • Greg Abbott+8000
  • Tommy Tuberville+8000
  • George P. Bush+10000
  • Kanye West+10000
  • Kayleigh McEnany+15000

Any combo of the following:

Rubio
Scott
Haley
Noem
Rice
Pence

_________(insert currently unknown/unexpected outsider who can continue to grow the diverse, middle class, wage earner demographic concerned with jobs, economics, national security, law and order)

I think most would prefer another outsider, paired with one of the above but I just don't know if the swamp and globalist coastal elite will allow it.

I like Pence but Trump's biggest mistake was not having a minority and/or Woman candidate as VP.

I'm not sure if Rice was ever considered, or maybe she declined, but she would have kept the Bush Rino's happy, gotten some woman and minority votes and some popular culture credit/momentum for first "female and black President"

GOP needs a combination of MAGA, but with a better demeanor/messenger than Trump.
 
Winner

  • Kamala Harris+300
  • Joe Biden+500
  • Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez+600
  • Andrew Yang+800
  • Beto O'Rourke+1000
  • Michelle Obama+1000
  • Andrew Cuomo+1200
  • Bernie Sanders+1200
  • Elizabeth Warren+1200
  • Stacey Abrams+1200
  • Pete Buttigieg+1500
  • Michael Bennet+2000
  • Michael Bloomberg+2000
  • Amy Klobuchar+2500
  • Cory Booker+2500
  • Gretchen Whitmer+2500
  • Deval Patrick+3500
  • Sherrod Brown+3500
  • Tulsi Gabbard+3500
  • Val Demmings+4000
  • Hillary Clinton+5000
  • Kirsten Gillibrand+10000
  • Tammy Baldwin+10000
  • Tammy Duckworth+10000
I’ll book Stacey Abrams all day too. Lol... that fatass isn’t winning the presidency.
 
If you think Trump gets this year's result overturned, Pence is massive value at +400, because he would become the overwhelming favorite with Trump not able to run again.

Pence is unelectable imo. I think he's a great man and probably a great leader. But his antiquated social views mean he can't win.

Couple that with the rarity of a party winning three terms in a row, and he's a lock to lose.
 
Imo looking at some data analysis out there, I think georgia is the best example that an algorithm was used to steal this election.



This is a great breakdown with near certain proof an algorithm was used to either change votes (unlikely imo) or guide how many fake votes were needed (much more likely). I think the latter is the answer because I don't think they're crazy enough to try to pull this much off as a glitch.

What makes georgia such a good study are the senate races. Out of about 2.5 million trump votes, only 800 didn't vote for senate. That's a crazy tight pattern. For Biden? He had 95,000 biden only ballots. That's statistically impossible given the patterns in georgia.

They is the algorithm ran just enough votes to get the two senate races to 49.99%. because that's all they needed....for now. In other states the data shows in post delay mail in counting, biden ballots almost always included him and only a democrat in a contested winnable election. If the Dem was down or up big, that vote wasnt on the ballot.
 
Pence is unelectable imo. I think he's a great man and probably a great leader. But his antiquated social views mean he can't win.

Couple that with the rarity of a party winning three terms in a row, and he's a lock to lose.

Remember that this table only represents odds for winning the party nomination.
 
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Imo looking at some data analysis out there, I think georgia is the best example that an algorithm was used to steal this election.



This is a great breakdown with near certain proof an algorithm was used to either change votes (unlikely imo) or guide how many fake votes were needed (much more likely). I think the latter is the answer because I don't think they're crazy enough to try to pull this much off as a glitch.

What makes georgia such a good study are the senate races. Out of about 2.5 million trump votes, only 800 didn't vote for senate. That's a crazy tight pattern. For Biden? He had 95,000 biden only ballots. That's statistically impossible given the patterns in georgia.

They is the algorithm ran just enough votes to get the two senate races to 49.99%. because that's all they needed....for now. In other states the data shows in post delay mail in counting, biden ballots almost always included him and only a democrat in a contested winnable election. If the Dem was down or up big, that vote wasnt on the ballot.

😂😂 at the MAGA losers who actually believe this crap. The people who oversee the elections in Georgia are REPUBLICANS
 
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😂😂 at the MAGA losers who actually believe this crap. The people who oversee the elections in Georgia are REPUBLICANS

if the numbers he’s talking about are correct and I’m not saying they are. That’s a major sign there are fraudulent ballots. It’s a statistical impossibility for that to happen. Atlanta GA is not run by Republicans.
 
Pence is unelectable imo. I think he's a great man and probably a great leader. But his antiquated social views mean he can't win.

Couple that with the rarity of a party winning three terms in a row, and he's a lock to lose.
A racist dementia patient who can't keep his hands off of little girls just won. I don't see how we can call anyone "unelectable" at this point.
 
Not offering any opinions on anything but odds for the 2024 GOP Nominee are out!

Where does everyone see value here? I like Scott at +1400, DeSantis at +3500, Rand at +4000. Not that I am predicting any of them win it, but those are good value to me.


  • Donald Trump+400
  • Mike Pence+400
  • Nikki Haley+500
  • John Kasich+800
  • Josh Hawley+1000
  • Ted Cruz+1200
  • Tim Scott+1400
  • Tom Cotton+1400
  • Dan Crenshaw+1600
  • Bill Weld+2000
  • Paul Ryan+2000
  • Carly Fiorina+2500
  • Donald Trump Jr.+2500
  • Mark Cuban+2500
  • Rudy Giuliani+2500
  • Kristi Noem+3000
  • Candace Owens+3300
  • Ron DeSantis+3500
  • Mitt Romney+4000
  • Rand Paul+4000
  • Jared Kushner+5000
  • Condoleezza Rice+6000
  • Mike Pompeo+6000
  • Jeff Flake+7500
  • Lindsey Graham+7500
  • Charlie Baker+8000
  • Greg Abbott+8000
  • Tommy Tuberville+8000
  • George P. Bush+10000
  • Kanye West+10000
  • Kayleigh McEnany+15000
Some of those names got a good chuckle from me (Flake, Rice, Ryan, Romney to name a few).

My names to watch out for.

Of course Noem (been pounding that drum for a while)
Rand (closest thing to a Libertarian so I will always vote for him when there is a chance)
Hawley (seems to be the GOP's new young favorite)
Crenshaw (well known and liked)
Scott (solid and can see them going full blown non white male ticket)

Give me that Noem/Paul ticket.
 
Remember that this table only represents odds for winning the party nomination.

Thanks for the clarification. If Biden holds, pence might we'll be the nominee if Harris is polling well. He is dutiful someone that will take a bullet for the party.

If Harris is polling poorly, then much tougher. I don't see them running pence and wasting an opportunity to win. Hopefully they'd go with desantis.
 
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if the numbers he’s talking about are correct and I’m not saying they are. That’s a major sign there are fraudulent ballots. It’s a statistical impossibility for that to happen. Atlanta GA is not run by Republicans.

So the Republican secretary of state who reports to the Republican governor haven’t raised serious concerns about this but some dude on twitter knows. Use your brain. Get out of your MAGA bubble.
 
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How the left fact checks:

Claim: Dead people voted in the Presidential Election.

Findings: Our research shows that dead people cannot vote because they cannot move due to a lack of brain function and a beating heart. A living person would have to vote for them.

Our verdict: False. Dead people cannot vote.

🧐
 
How the left fact checks:

Claim: Dead people voted in the Presidential Election.

Findings: Our research shows that dead people cannot vote because they cannot move due to a lack of brain function and a beating heart. A living person would have to vote for them.

Our verdict: False. Dead people cannot vote.

🧐
This is spot on.

I saw a fact check earlier that said voter fraud is rare and nearly impossible according to Reuters and the AP... so because they said it can’t be happening it’s a false claim.
 
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So the Republican secretary of state who reports to the Republican governor haven’t raised serious concerns about this but some dude on twitter knows. Use your brain. Get out of your MAGA bubble.

Im pretty sure they have spoken on voting irregularities.
 
How the left fact checks:

Claim: Dead people voted in the Presidential Election.

Findings: Our research shows that dead people cannot vote because they cannot move due to a lack of brain function and a beating heart. A living person would have to vote for them.

Our verdict: False. Dead people cannot vote.

🧐

As Michael Malice says, the corporate press is factual but not truthful.
 
So she has equated in HER OWN MIND that "legally cast ballots" mean whites only? So in HER OWN MIND illegally cast ballots were only cast by non-whites?

What kind of Jedi mind trick double reverse racism is this?!?!?!!
I think in her mind Trump is a white supremacist fascist dictator who only wants the white vote counted and to throw out all minority votes.

Her mind is a very confusing and very small place.
 
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