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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
Little incentive to move above lower middle class?
You’ve not been to Europe, have you?

Democratic socialism as practiced in Europe (and most Europeans don’t see it as socialism) provides access to what are seen as essential services. Namely healthcare and education. There is still plenty of incentive to live in a nicer home, drive a nicer vehicle on roads where they actually allow you to drive that BMW capable of doing 185...185mph! Eat better food although they most all eat much more healthy diets than do we.
Some European countries have more millionaire per capita than the US...and others have similar rates. Nearly 1 in 10 in Switzerland are millionaires.
Money has the same perks most everywhere.

Boy I wonder what ever happened to those guys with the yellow vests in France?

How strange. Must have just...disappeared.

Yep. Nobody in Europe is unhappy.
 
I would estimate only about half of all HS grads are truly equipped for college, and there would seem to be little or no economic value towards many degrees such as fashion design or art history etc. I also think many colleges have taken advantage of the easy-to-get student loan program and have unfairly jacked up tuition beyond what is reasonable.

You think?

It should be obvious.

There is no way in hell the taxpayer should be on the hook for useless liberal arts degrees.
 
Florida definitely out

Yeah, Cubans may not have a pot to piss in, abysmal food selections in their grocery stores, push their vintage cars around because they have no gas or means to repair them. Run down properties that were once glorious estates, basically live in a shithole, but they damn sure can read good.
 
If you surveyed all Bernie supporters what % would you think have financial problems?

I'd say theres a strong correlation for a handout and supporting him.
I'd also guess his supporters were the last guys/gals picked for kickball teams in 4th grade.
 
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I’m making exactly the point I think I’m making, you just don’t comprehend.

The comparison to auto insurance is repeatedly parroted by the left. Obamacare’s requirement to buy health insurance because you’re alive is in no way comparable to a state requiring you to purchase insurance for a vehicle to be licensed by the state to operate on public roadways.
One is to protect yourself. Which is and should be voluntary. The other is to protect the rest of the public from you. Which should be mandatory.
 
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I'd also guess his supporters were the last guys/gals picked for kickball teams in 4th grade.
And are the ones in masks tossing cement milkshakes on people and pushing around senior citizens just trying to go about their day.
 
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Mr. Woods killing it again. Heh.

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So how is healthcare not a “quasi-public good”?
How is it?

Does it have an inexhaustible benefit that is also non-exclusive?

Would it be under-produced in a free market? (Spoiler - current market isn't free.)

Education - marginal social benefits > marginal social costs of providing. Better results with private providers.

Healthcare -

Demand for some services is elastic, others it is inelastic.

Overconsumption reigns since marginal private cost < marginal social cost.

Restrictions on supply - increases costs.

Insurance - increases demand and takes away incentives to be frugal or efficient. Make it "free" and overconsumption skyrockets.

Try decreasing demand through healthier habits.

Finally - healthcare is a good that is provided by individuals. There are already public options - Medicare and VA are lauded for their quality and efficiency, how could expanding them go wrong?

I agree that there are positive externalities associated with healthcare and some portions should be subsidized, but that's preventative stuff and Karen from Facebook says vaccines cause autism and a dead kid is better than a special needs kid...

So I'm not going to pay to treat Karen's kid when I could have prevented the illness at a fraction of the cost.

If healthcare becomes publicly funded, kiss rights goodbye. A woman's body, an overweight body, a sick body - all my business because I pay.
 
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