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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
Florida definitely out

Yeah, Cubans may not have a pot to piss in, abysmal food selections in their grocery stores, push their vintage cars around because they have no gas or means to repair them. Run down properties that were once glorious estates, basically live in a shithole, but they damn sure can read good.
 
If you surveyed all Bernie supporters what % would you think have financial problems?

I'd say theres a strong correlation for a handout and supporting him.
I'd also guess his supporters were the last guys/gals picked for kickball teams in 4th grade.
 
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I’m making exactly the point I think I’m making, you just don’t comprehend.

The comparison to auto insurance is repeatedly parroted by the left. Obamacare’s requirement to buy health insurance because you’re alive is in no way comparable to a state requiring you to purchase insurance for a vehicle to be licensed by the state to operate on public roadways.
One is to protect yourself. Which is and should be voluntary. The other is to protect the rest of the public from you. Which should be mandatory.
 
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I'd also guess his supporters were the last guys/gals picked for kickball teams in 4th grade.
And are the ones in masks tossing cement milkshakes on people and pushing around senior citizens just trying to go about their day.
 
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Mr. Woods killing it again. Heh.

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So how is healthcare not a “quasi-public good”?
How is it?

Does it have an inexhaustible benefit that is also non-exclusive?

Would it be under-produced in a free market? (Spoiler - current market isn't free.)

Education - marginal social benefits > marginal social costs of providing. Better results with private providers.

Healthcare -

Demand for some services is elastic, others it is inelastic.

Overconsumption reigns since marginal private cost < marginal social cost.

Restrictions on supply - increases costs.

Insurance - increases demand and takes away incentives to be frugal or efficient. Make it "free" and overconsumption skyrockets.

Try decreasing demand through healthier habits.

Finally - healthcare is a good that is provided by individuals. There are already public options - Medicare and VA are lauded for their quality and efficiency, how could expanding them go wrong?

I agree that there are positive externalities associated with healthcare and some portions should be subsidized, but that's preventative stuff and Karen from Facebook says vaccines cause autism and a dead kid is better than a special needs kid...

So I'm not going to pay to treat Karen's kid when I could have prevented the illness at a fraction of the cost.

If healthcare becomes publicly funded, kiss rights goodbye. A woman's body, an overweight body, a sick body - all my business because I pay.
 
This Bernie stuff is almost a star wars episode 7 remake of the 2016 republican primary a new hope. Once it looked like the outsider was the clear winner, the media lost it's shit with smears and brokered conventions and what not. The difference is once this happened to Trump he publicly started talking about how they are going to screw him, and how there would be riots in the streets if they did. Bernie is probably just going to take it and lose.
 
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The real problem with these people is that they don't care about the truth. I've already explained to RQ why his arguments are nonsensical yet I presume he still persists in them. He's not serious nor to be taken seriously.

The European Union economy and ours are virtually identical if you look at all the indicators of strength/productivity or atleast it's about as much of an equal you can find to the United States. What is not equal however is the wealth of the average middle class person in those two economies; you are much better off here in terms of creating your own wealth and writing your own destiny in life.

The reason for this is the burden the socialist welfare state places on people to pay for it. Recent article said the UK would rank as 49th, just ahead of Mississippi, were at a US state. So that's what's really being proposed here, turn us all into Mississippi.

And then you have the audacity to claim this is a moral argument, no your greed and naivety is going to make everyone poorer including yourselves. Taking away individual freedoms never a virtue. Getting worse medical care for all is not better than better healthcare for most all.
 
Bernie is very similar to Trump in 2016. Nobody thinks he has a chance, his party wants nothing to do with him right now, he says things that others in his party do not agree with, and he has a very engaged base. I do not think Bernie can beat Trump but I am also not naive enough to think Dems won't eventually latch onto his wagon if he gets the nomination and do everything possible to beat Trump. This is the most important election of our lifetimes (just like 2016 was) and Republicans and others who want to vote for Trump better show up and vote.

Should Bernie get the nomination, I think Trump will firmly beat him if everyone comes out to vote for Trump, but thinking its a cakewalk for Trump and staying home on election day is a very bad idea.
 
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