...then buy 2 new "summer camps" and five Ferraris.
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...then buy 2 new "summer camps" and five Ferraris.
Last night Biden addressed a group and said he was running for the U.S. Senate. Every day brings another slip and he is so pitiful now I don't make fun of him anymore.
Yep. People need to realize Trump's real base is essentially non-ideological. They are socially conservative and economically nationalist.
I think Bernie ended any real chance he had by abandoning his original immigration stance (immigrants drive down wages and we need to close the border to stop that) and accept the latest woke policy. If he had steered clear of the homo stuff and flip-flopped on immigration, he would be a much tougher opponent.
That said, unless Trump really ramps up deportations and truly closes the border, we're 8 or 12 more years away from Bernie being the centrist candidate for President, so get used to it I guess
There is no way the DNC is going to let the Democrat voters pick Bernie to represent them.
If the DNC somehow screws up pulling the nomination from Bernie, and he somehow defeats Trump, he’ll have a massive fatal heart attack shortly after inauguration and his VP will step in, as I’m sure the DNC will at least be able to convince him to pick a fake moderate DNC puppet as VP.
This is why I am praying Bernie is the Democrat who is their presidential nominee. America has to have the debate of Socialism vs. Democracy. The winner becomes president.
I think the argument for socialism will be crushed in a debate between Bernie and Trump. And more importantly I think Democrats running for the house and senate wil be forced to defend Bernie and his ideology. I think we win. I know we win in Floriida and we have a bunch of electoral college votes
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I actually think we need to get past that debate entirely. The root of the issue is 1) lack of a just culture/society (not that everyone should be equal, but as close to real honest justice as we can attain) and 2) shifting demographics.
You can argue against socialism all you want, but as long as you still have vast swaths of the interior of the country that are economically depressed and hordes of immigrants coming in, you're going to get it eventually. Having Charlie Kirk recite the death toll from Stalin for the millionth time isn't going stop 45 million Latin Americans from voting for a new version Hugo Chavez, and it's not going to make a candidate less appealing to underemployed and underrepresented white people in Nebraska.
The people who want to stave off real socialism (hopefully everyone with two firing neurons) need to really get to the meat of these issues or it's not going to matter which side is objectively correct or better
What I don't understand is why Cubans can manage to "get it" in regards to the communism they escaped, but immigrants from other countries and hell, people in our own country, can't and don't seem to understand what would happen here if that mindset was allowed to manifest itself here. Cubans seem to be the only immigrant community that understands the affects of communism and want nothing to do with it.
Most of the Cubans in America were middle class before they came here and their coming here was related directly to persecution of them in particular. Most of the people currently coming in from Latin America are from the poorest segments of the population, where socialism is appealing. They likely don't see the economic plight of their native country as having to do directly with socialism and them leaving certainly isn't a targeted persecution by their socialist government.
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So basically Dionysus is a dumb, uneducated and gullible as the poorest of poor Central Americans.
Essentially the folks coming here from 3rd world countries are not educated and do not know anything else other than poverty and repression from government. They see the USA as their saving grace and do not understand nor care of the implications of the strain they cause to our social/financial systems. Republicans loved their cheap labor and now Dems cater to them for votes that they lost with White/Blue Collared America. They buy it all hook line and sinker just like many young Americans who have been brainwashed through our educational system and other folks who are looking for the ultimate handout from taxpayers and the rich who they feel have kept them down in life (its not my fault victimhood mentality).
I’m shocked, not really, about so many Latin American illegal immigrants that are in my kid’s school that can’t speak any English and the schools have to pay for interpreters at taxpayers expense. Can I claim that as a tax write off?
This is why Trump and the GOP need to hit the accelerator with bringing back more and more jobs from overseas.
It's really that simple.
I mean the journalists, economists, historians, etc can all sit there and lecture everyone on the dangers of socialism, but at the end of the day, if Pedro and Bob are sitting around unemployed or underemployed, it's not going to amount to dick.
I think hammering China to change their ways and slapping them with tariffs is only a very small part of the equation.
Have to really start hammering American businesses and mega-corporations to reorientate everything back home.
At the end of the day, the biggest F up perhaps in our history was shipping out a bunch of industry to Asia and allowing that part of the world to become the manufacturing and supply chain hub of the world.
We should have built up our hemisphere. That would have solved the biggest problems we have today. Jobs and out of control immigration. Obviously, if we hadn't shipped so much of our industry overseas we wouldn't have a lot of the problems that have come from that, chief among them employment generally speaking. If Mexico, central, and South America were built up like China and Malaysia then there wouldn't be a need for so many of them to come here.
Imagine Detroit, Cleveland, St. Louis, and various cities/areas south of the border looking like Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, etc...
We're about to find out how stupid this was when the supply chain impacts of the coronavirus hit. We are the strongest economy of all time, with 300 million (by most standards of history) well-educated people with ready access to great nutrition and shelter. Yet, we may not be able to treat basic infections with anti-biotics because of ish going on in China.
We should be making everything we possibly can within our own borders. I understand some things simply can't be produced effectively here, but the essentials should all be totally under our control. Trump has made us energy independent again, but we need to be as raw material, medical supply, electronics, etc independent as we can.
Bernie is one world class grifter I’ll tell you. With each day I’m more hopeful he is gonna be the Dem nominee.
Evidently the Director of Health Services of Iran has tested positive for the coronavirus.
I'm sure he'll blame Trump.
I'm sure he'll blame Trump.
That makes way too much sense.
I heard some dude lay out exactly how easy it would be for China to crush us...and it pretty much started and ended with the drugs we buy from them.
I've checked my inventory , the most popular antibiotics I have are all made in India.
That is just amazing. Bout time people with some common sense fight back...
First I ever heard of a middle class in Cuba...(I know now there seems to be a burgeoning type of "middle class" but there was no middle class until Fidel bit it..) Are they losing their hold? Or calling it that due to allowing some to go upwardly mobile in things as education/ schools? (There is a difference between education and schools.)
Name a farmer on food stamps.
Most of the people in America from Cuba either came from before Cuba was communist or are their descendants.
HA, now I understand but Dang, they are mostly all dead if they left "before" communism (That part of the people anyway.)....
American politics has been centered around social issues since the rise of the counterculture bifurcated society in the 60s. Most of the country votes for what their idea of a "good person" is, not based on a list of policies said politician supports. That's why we see such intense polarization in the electorate. Both sides see themselves as the sole occupants of the moral high ground and the other side as morally bankrupt fools being manipulated by depraved monsters bent on oppression.
True, most are dead or at least in their 70s, but they instilled DEEP antiCastro sentiments in their family and it permeates the whole culture there. Children and grand children who never even lived in Cuba would probably enlist at the drop of a hat to take out the regime if necessary
Their parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were middle-class before the revolution in Cuba.
A man that I know, in his seventies now, his parents found sponsors in Kansas to raise him.
His parents did not escape and his siblings were raised by others in the US.
That's sacrifice and skin in the game.
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