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Michael Moore predicts Trump will win the election. Shocking.
so, 2016 #WarOnWomen moment? nah, of course not, doesnt count if the vic is (1)a Republican or (2)Pretty and especially if (3)both
I predict he very likely will die from a heart attack.
There's an ancient family joke in that sentence that involved my oldest sister. From now on your internet voice for me will be hers. If it's any consolation to you she's a brilliant woman and funny enough to light up a room. In retaliation you can use this one for me:
Donald Trump Jr. with a very good response when questioned about Cruz withholding his endorsement. The Trump family is carving out a huge sphere within the Republican party, and I can see them, with Jr. and Eric, dominating the party the way the Bushes did a generation before.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/21/politics/donald-trump-jr-son-ted-cruz/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/21/politics/donald-trump-jr-son-ted-cruz/index.html
I can't view the video, but we used white phosperous bombs on targets, but we didn't firebomb the city.
Ive always been curious at the cries for killing people more humanely during war. What an oxymoron.
"OMG YOU KILLED THEM IN SUCH A CRUEL MANNER!!" As if there was a nice way to kill people.
IDC, but he's trying to deflect from Obama's use of drones killing civilians, by creating an event in Fallujah that didn't happen.
Oh I know. It just shows the left will complain about literally anything a REP does. Even the method of killing enemies, as if theres a humane way to kill people.
I think what Moe is trying to say is that we should have dropped a MOAB on Fallujah. That would have been the humanitarian way to go about it. Or, we could have just sent them a twitter message and told them that we were "strongly disappointed" in them.
One can see from the video that white phosphorous is not a precision weapon. The ground is alight where it has fallen. This wasn't part of a screed -- this is CNN** which was just following the war. If you go to Youtube, you can see the phosphorous come down like rain.
**Several different embedded reporters filed stories on it.
I've explained several times what I was doing. Since I've been called a liar, I followed up on it. If I hadn't been called a liar, my original comment would have been enough.
It's official - Roger Ailes fired from Fox news. I bet he's going to be up late, late at nights grieving over how little Gretchen Carlson got the best of him.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...ox-news-headquarters-office-article-1.2720469
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...ox-news-headquarters-office-article-1.2720469
You did lie, or you're just not very bright. You specifcally said the US firebombed Fallujah with white phospherous which killed or injured 4000 civilians, that is a lie. Do you know what firebombing even is?
Why don't you try googling what the numbers depicting the rounds on the screen? It's a round used for smokescreens and cover for troops.
I'm sure there were people injured by its use,simply because the insurgents were using civilians as shields, but it wasn't used as a way to firebomb the city. Thats simply not accurate.
If they are I welcome them as well. Surely an older obese man could never have health issues...
Not going back to look, but the reason you were called a liar is that you explicitly stated that we firebombed Fallujah with white phosphorus and that 4000 civilians were killed as a result. That whole conversation occurred because you intentionally "misunderstood" a statement about the main stream media, as the henchmen of the left, spending two days talking about a speech and not mentioning news the rest of the world is holding us liable for.
I don't comment on subjects that I don't understand, you seem to have no such throttle.
Yet another instance of you not being able to read and understand what is being discussed. He was talking about Michael Moore and I can assure you the NSA does not care.
I didn't see that as an actual prediction based on a cold assessment. He's just trying to rally the troops, same thing with Christians saying in a few years they will be prosecuted/persecuted, or conservatives saying that now, finally, the media is open and no longer pretending to be neutral. Note his supporting argument - all the old white guys will soon be dead, thank God, but there's 40 million of them and they'd crawl through broken glass and turn off FoxNews for the chance to vote for a fellow bigot. Heh. It's got some fire up the troops, some projection, some nasty, lot of stuff going on there.
A little language NSFW. But great message.
We have been using white phophorous long before this time frame and the government knows what it does so, they are not ashamed. But, you are right about it being a terrible weapon. Water does not stop the burn, mud slows it down but, you mostly have to cut it out or dig it out of the wound.
Yep, hopefully people watch this. I think I posted this a year ago and nothing.
It's incredibly humbling to hear that.
White phophorous is used primarily for marking and spotting not for killing. There is however collateral damage as there is for any weapon or military attack.
Not sure why you're digging in on this position. White phosphorous was used for incendiary purposes in the Fallujah assault, meaning the intended use was to inflict casualties. We've admitted to its use as a weapon on numerous occasions, our justification is that it was used as a conventional weapon.
In the end, the results of its used are close to that of traditional munitions if the intention is to eliminate enemy targets, just a tad more burn-y.
Y'all have taken up ~ 2 pages debating something that was laid out clearly by Moe but in the end is extraneous to the discussion of collateral damage. Slow news day so far I'm assuming.
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Funny i just saw a video asking clinton supporters about alot of trumps policies and attached her name and they all LOVED the ideas. Liberals are the ones who blindly follow a candidate. As a middle leaning republican, i have no qualms about dissing a candidate if needed. I did it with ol mittens romney. Libs wont even admit she lied about her emails when thr FBI director told us she did.
And oh yaah, didnt obama have a dem controlled senate over half his presidency? How easily you forget to push your narrative of republicans screwing up all his great plans. Ridiculous
It was laid out falsely by Moe, fallujah was not firebombed with white phosperous causing 4000 deaths and injuries. He is trying justify killing civilians with drones, which doesn't bother me a bit, by exaggerating what happened in Fallujah.
In my first or second response I agreed that it was used, and I'm sure civilians were injured by it, but firebombing at least in my mind is a whole different level of destruction. The number he used is simply pulled out of thin air for wow factor.
Like Warrior said, white phosphorous is bad, it burns so hot it fuses metal.
Leaked transcript of Trump speech tonight. ![[smoke]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/classic/smokin.r191677.gif "Cool [smoke]")
Not sure if it is legit thought but....
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/...mp-nomination-acceptance-speech-at-rnc-225974
Not sure if it is legit thought but....
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/...mp-nomination-acceptance-speech-at-rnc-225974
Officially he resigned but it makes sense to do it on a holiday and Trump's acceptance speech is the closest thing to a GOP holiday as there is.
:smh:
I would go with:
Four score and seven years ago our fathers faced the great depression. Now we are met here for a convention to nominate a President. Our opponent wants to allow terrorist into our nation so they can remain in power. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our nation, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, We have nothing to fear but fear itself. Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.
Four score and seven years ago our fathers faced the great depression. Now we are met here for a convention to nominate a President. Our opponent wants to allow terrorist into our nation so they can remain in power. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our nation, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, We have nothing to fear but fear itself. Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.
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Not just that purpose (traditional munition) once again, it is primarily used for marking and spotting. It is sometimes used to destroy enemy equipment as well. Now, that is not to say it is not used to kill but, that is a by product if you will and a deterrent when considering its effectiveness for bringing fear to the enemy considering the damage and pain associated with the difficulties in trying to counteract its effects.
I don't even know why people do campaign speeches anymore. All it is bullshit. Pure 100% bullshit. There's nothing of any substance. It's the same repeated verbal vomit every fours at these conventions. Just mind you, all these politicians with their self-inflated speeches don't fool me. Son, I sniff these MF'ers out within 5 minutes.
I'm already envisioning the sewer that will spew from Hillary's mouth. There will be so many pauses for *audience clapping* to make you wish you had E Coli.
These Trump kids. IDGAF. IDGAF about the meat puppets propped on the DNC stage. Living with all you party nut hugging rah rahs can lick my balls. What ever you defend yourself, I know better. You can't me fool me you bastards.
I'm already envisioning the sewer that will spew from Hillary's mouth. There will be so many pauses for *audience clapping* to make you wish you had E Coli.
These Trump kids. IDGAF. IDGAF about the meat puppets propped on the DNC stage. Living with all you party nut hugging rah rahs can lick my balls. What ever you defend yourself, I know better. You can't me fool me you bastards.
I haven't jumped in on the Fallujah thing yet . But you most definitely implied that we killed 4000 with white phosphorus. I read your statement and thought, "How did I miss out on hearing about that? Seems like that would have been headline news around the world for a long time." Why can't people simply admit it when they misspeak? It's not that difficult.
Right now I don't know if we did or didn't.
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