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What world do you live in?

A second impeachment in which the House will subpoena Bolton when they refused to subpoena him the first time because all they give a shit about is using this sham process to attack their political opponent in the run up to 2020.
They didn’t subpoena him because they said they would fight it. Now he says he will testify.
Likely he wanted to get his book out first and not allow the WH to block anything.

Regardless, why do you fear hearing from him? Why does Trump fear Bolton’s testimony?

Admit that you want to protect Trump and if that requires a coverup then you’re all for it. You don’t GAF how corrupt he is, he’s yours and you want him protected.

Trump has nobody to blame but himself. He puts himself on a pedestal and shits on everyone below who doesn’t bow to him. He takes all credit and accepts zero blame. It’s the traits of a weak and fragile man and ego.
 
This is a not even subtle point that the dems cannot process. The Presidents executive privilege extends to any person he deems it to. Could be me if he told me some shit he didn't want other people to know about his dealings with heads of state.

They had no problem when Schitt would shut down questions to witnesses because he said they might divulge who the whistleblower was. He wouldn't even allow witnesses to be called unless they were the ones he had already coached.

Hypocrisy has been watered down by the dems almost as much as racism has.
The fact that you believe any of that is both laughable and frightening.

No, executive privilege isn’t without boundaries. I’d tell you to study the constitution but I realize that you’re too stupid to comprehend it.
What can I say? Some people believe in a flat earth, you believe that executive privilege has no boundaries.
 
They didn’t subpoena him because they said they would fight it. Now he says he will testify.
Likely he wanted to get his book out first and not allow the WH to block anything.

Regardless, why do you fear hearing from him? Why does Trump fear Bolton’s testimony?

Admit that you want to protect Trump and if that requires a coverup then you’re all for it. You don’t GAF how corrupt he is, he’s yours and you want him protected.

Trump has nobody to blame but himself. He puts himself on a pedestal and shits on everyone below who doesn’t bow to him. He takes all credit and accepts zero blame. It’s the traits of a weak and fragile man and ego.


What the hell are you rambling about, you loon?

Executive privilege belongs to the President. It’s not Bolton’s choice whether or not he can testify. If he is subpoenaed, Trump will claim executive privilege and the Supreme Court will decide if Congress has the power to force disclosure of high level executive branch discussions as part of a fishing expedition. Hint, they can’t.

I want Supreme Court precedent that can be relied upon in the future. If that means Bolton testifies, fine.

You truly are a lunatic. Fact is the democrats were funneling taxpayer money through the Ukraine back to their families. This whole impeachment ruse is designed to hide that corruption.
 
What the hell are you rambling about, you loon?

Executive privilege belongs to the President. It’s not Bolton’s choice whether or not he can testify. If he is subpoenaed, Trump will claim executive privilege and the Supreme Court will decide if Congress has the power to force disclosure of high level executive branch discussions as part of a fishing expedition. Hint, they can’t.

I want Supreme Court precedent that can be relied upon in the future. If that means Bolton testifies, fine.

You truly are a lunatic. Fact is the democrats were funneling taxpayer money through the Ukraine back to their families. This whole impeachment ruse is designed to hide that corruption.
Trump also tried to block Sondland from testifying yet he did it anyway.
Again, you fear what he has to say and that’s why you don’t want to hear it.
 
Trump also tried to block Sondland from testifying yet he did it anyway.
Again, you fear what he has to say and that’s why you don’t want to hear it.


Literally just told you I want Supreme Court precedent that will bind all people to the same standards going forward.

Does that mean I’m afraid of hearing Bolton testify in your warped little loony toon mind?
 
So then you’d have no issue with his testifying under oath?
We know what people say and what they say under oath is often different.
If the book is so explosive and he is willing to testify...what are the chances he is going to lie about it under oath?

If the Senate doesn’t want to allow it then perhaps the House should enter into a second Impeachment, hear Bolton’s testimony and then shove it up the Senate’s ass. There is no protection against double jeopardy for impeachment.

They didn’t subpoena him because they said they would fight it. Now he says he will testify.
Likely he wanted to get his book out first and not allow the WH to block anything.

Regardless, why do you fear hearing from him? Why does Trump fear Bolton’s testimony?

Admit that you want to protect Trump and if that requires a coverup then you’re all for it. You don’t GAF how corrupt he is, he’s yours and you want him protected.

Trump has nobody to blame but himself. He puts himself on a pedestal and shits on everyone below who doesn’t bow to him. He takes all credit and accepts zero blame. It’s the traits of a weak and fragile man and ego.

The time to seek his testimony was in the house. They didn't. That's really all that matters. If they really wanted his testimony, they should've pursued it in the court system. They didn't because they know he has nothing helpful and legally they have no grounds.
 
Trump also tried to block Sondland from testifying yet he did it anyway.
Again, you fear what he has to say and that’s why you don’t want to hear it.


Also, the Democrats subpoenaed Sondland. Why not Bolton?

Trumps team probably knew there was no sense in asserting Executive privilege over Sondland because he didn’t actually have any knowledge of anything.
 
Cocaine Mitch needs to pull every single dollar of national funding from any republican who decides to go along with the Democrat sham without also putting the Biden’s, Obama, Schiff, Pelosi, Ciarmella, Romney, and any other person who was getting money funneled to them through the Ukraine on the stand.
 
I'm perfectly fine with calling witnesses and having this drag out for months. I'm of the personal opinion the socialists are doing this more to hurt bernie than trump. He cant win if he cant campaign.

However I would ask if witnesses are going to be called, let's go all in and really get to the bottom of it. I'd want any relevant witnesses to the bidens dealings in the Ukraine as well as Obama. Democrats really dont want to go down that road and will fight tooth and nail to stop it since its 100% obvious and factual the bidens were committing serious crimes.
 
I'm perfectly fine with calling witnesses and having this drag out for months. I'm of the personal opinion the socialists are doing this more to hurt bernie than trump. He cant win if he cant campaign.

However I would ask if witnesses are going to be called, let's go all in and really get to the bottom of it. I'd want any relevant witnesses to the bidens dealings in the Ukraine as well as Obama. Democrats really dont want to go down that road and will fight tooth and nail to stop it since its 100% obvious and factual the bidens were committing serious crimes.
The Bidens aren't on trial, Obama is not on trial. TRUMP is on trial, but any way you can try to muddy the waters Republicans will do because they know TRUMP is guilty and corrupt. There is zero factual info that the Bidens committed crimes. Maybe not good judgment but not illegal for a company to hire someone who has connections. Republicans do it all the time. Maybe we should investigate all the Trump kids while we're at it?

Republicans are destroying democracy and the Constitution just to maintain power.

Every single impeachment trial in the Senate has had witnesses and documents.
 
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The Bidens aren't on trial, Obama is not on trial. TRUMP is on trial, but any way you can try to muddy the waters Republicans will do because they know TRUMP is guilty and corrupt. There is zero factual info that the Bidens committed crimes. Maybe not good judgment but not illegal for a company to hire someone who has connections. Republicans do it all the time. Maybe we should investigate all the Trump kids while we're at it?

Republicans are destroying democracy and the Constitution just to maintain power.

Every single impeachment trial in the Senate has had witnesses and documents.
Guilty of what exactly? Saying he wasn't going to do what Biden did?

You folks on the left are beyond help.
 
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I love the fact that the lefties claim “there’s no factual evidence the Biden’s committed crimes” when Joe Biden is on camera threatening to withhold aid from the Ukraine if they do not stop investigating, I.e. obtaining evidence, of all of the Biden’s crimes.

And now the lefties are whining and crying because they don’t have enough bullshit “evidence” to support their impeachment ruse if they don’t get to continue investigating Trump.
 
The Bidens aren't on trial, Obama is not on trial. TRUMP is on trial, but any way you can try to muddy the waters Republicans will do because they know TRUMP is guilty and corrupt. There is zero factual info that the Bidens committed crimes. Maybe not good judgment but not illegal for a company to hire someone who has connections. Republicans do it all the time. Maybe we should investigate all the Trump kids while we're at it?

Republicans are destroying democracy and the Constitution just to maintain power.

Every single impeachment trial in the Senate has had witnesses and documents.


You're a special kind of stupid. You want to impeach the guy trying to investigate a crime and insert the guy who committed the crime. By the way, is it a crime to tell your advisors you want to do something, but never actually do it? That's what its sounding like happened here. I'm failing to see how he used quid pro quo, even though its not a crime in the first place and used by politicians daily, but the people he was apparently threatening didnt even know they were being threatened? Doesnt one require the other?
 
Trump has ran the government for 3 years. Maybe he should have his lap dog Barr do something.


That’s a good point. He should talk to the Ukrainians and see if they’d be open to working with Barr to stop government corruption. Could even ask they try and get to the bottom of any interference in the 2016 election.

I’m sure everyone would be OK with that, right?
 
It’s always us that has to support everybody. Why isn’t Germany supporting?


Germany is not doing much.



How about Germany opening up a pipeline into Russia? And we are supposed to be fighting Russia. So Germany is paying Russia like 2 billion dollars a month and they a member of NATO… And we are paying 90% of the cost of NATO.

 
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we're on the same damn team; the sooner you fools (leftists) realize that the better.

Pretty lofty assumption that I’m a “leftist” because I don’t worship Trump and the GOP. Is that the minimum requirements of leftism? I think the Dems are dorks who also suck.

I read this thread every day. Some useful info. A lot of team-centric talking points and crazy person conspiracy theories. So, politics in a nutshell.

I understand this thread is a highly conservative echo chamber and that’s cool. Back to your regularly scheduled circle jerk. Showing myself out now. G’day.
 
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Cocaine Mitch needs to pull every single dollar of national funding from any republican who decides to go along with the Democrat sham without also putting the Biden’s, Obama, Schiff, Pelosi, Ciarmella, Romney, and any other person who was getting money funneled to them through the Ukraine on the stand.
Thanks for confirming that you would prefer not hearing testimony and thus guaranteeing that Trump survives impeachment vs hearing testimony that may put his survival into question.

Coward is too weak a word to describe your ilk.
 
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The time to seek his testimony was in the house. They didn't. That's really all that matters. If they really wanted his testimony, they should've pursued it in the court system. They didn't because they know he has nothing helpful and legally they have no grounds.
They did seek his testimony. House had a lawful investigation and shouldn't have to go through the courts. The administration stonewalled the house investigation and now their defense is there are no first person accounts.

For someone who is sooo innocent, he continues to lie and stonewall people who supposedly could exonerate him.
 
Pretty lofty assumption that I’m a “leftist” because I don’t worship Trump and the GOP. Is that the minimum requirements of leftism? I think the Dems are dorks who also suck.

I read this thread every day. Some useful info. A lot of team-centric talking points and crazy person conspiracy theories. So, politics in a nutshell.

I understand this thread is a highly conservative echo chamber and that’s cool. Back to your regularly scheduled circle jerk. Showing myself out now. G’day.

no assumptions, if you think there is any there there... then you are either leftist or just generally uninformed/incompetent; this is a farce from the start and does nothing but damage the Home team.

you and me, us all.

it's not just a waste of time... it's a damaging waste of time
 
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For someone who is sooo innocent, he continues to lie and stonewall people who supposedly could exonerate him.[/QUOTE]
For a group that claims they have an open and shut case, the dims sure are scrambling.
 
What the hell are you rambling about, you loon?

Executive privilege belongs to the President. It’s not Bolton’s choice whether or not he can testify. If he is subpoenaed, Trump will claim executive privilege and the Supreme Court will decide if Congress has the power to force disclosure of high level executive branch discussions as part of a fishing expedition. Hint, they can’t.

I want Supreme Court precedent that can be relied upon in the future. If that means Bolton testifies, fine.

You truly are a lunatic. Fact is the democrats were funneling taxpayer money through the Ukraine back to their families. This whole impeachment ruse is designed to hide that corruption.
And attempt to weaken trumps campaign in the coming months. It’s 100% about money and politics. People that believe it’s anything of substance are the sheep the Democrats want is all to be.
 
They did seek his testimony. House had a lawful investigation and shouldn't have to go through the courts. The administration stonewalled the house investigation and now their defense is there are no first person accounts.

For someone who is sooo innocent, he continues to lie and stonewall people who supposedly could exonerate him.


This is a good point. Innocent people shouldn’t rely on attorney client privilege, spousal privilege, executive privilege, the 5th amendment, etc.

If the Democrats what information as part of a fishing expedition, an innocent person wouldn’t assert his constitutional rights.
 
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