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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
Many homeless and destitute don’t have $27. They still have the right to vote. Doesn’t matter if it’s $1 or $1000000, they have the right to vote.

If you can’t drum up $6 to $27 in todays economy you either don’t give a crap or you are too mentally unstable to be able to make a cognitive decision. Either way, you shouldn’t be voting. Don’t pretend otherwise.
 
Many homeless and destitute don’t have $27. They still have the right to vote. Doesn’t matter if it’s $1 or $1000000, they have the right to vote.
If you are capable to work but aren't, you should not be able to vote. There are enough jobs out there but, if you continue to vote for someone who will continue to give you free money, that needs to stop. Contribute or lose the privilege.
 
Automaton is slowly replacing every job. What’s your answer, keep doing meaningless busywork that can be done faster and more efficiently by machines just because?
If McD's and other fast food restaurants are required to pay $15 per hour, they will be forced to expand automation. It's robbery paying a buck for a McD's hamburger already. To double the price because high school students or drop-outs can make $15 will cause a lot of people to either go elsewhere or stay home, eat a bologna sandwich and save their money. Not a bad idea.
 
Are you really bitching about an ID that costs between $6 and $27? That’s your push back for saying “having money shouldn’t be a requirement to vote?”
$27?

Nope, that idiot is bitching about you taking away the ability for illegals and dead people to vote. Without those demographics the dems are toast.

Fight or flight.
 
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Something like 90 percent of all jobs before the industrial revolution were in agriculture, now that percentage is 2. The sky might be falling, but it's not different this time.
And then most jobs were in production, which has since switched to service. You’re entitled to your optimistic opinion that everyone will just adjust in some unforeseen way. But I would posit it actually is fundamentally different this time. The advent of machine learning and interactive systems that sense their surroundings and dynamically interact is a new and unique situation. Instead of machines improving human efficiency AI is now doing things beyond our human limitations.
 
Many homeless and destitute don’t have $27. They still have the right to vote. Doesn’t matter if it’s $1 or $1000000, they have the right to vote.
Fine. All citizens of voting age should have the right to vote. Just be able to prove you are a registered voter when you show up at the polls. If you can do it without spending money, no problem.
 
I'm not sure the "Freedom Dividend" is the answer...that's a new take on "The Great Society" and I'm not sure there's universal agreement that worked out as well as it was intended.

Why should government/taxpayers, partly pay everyone who corporations are replacing with robots, immigrants, and little kids in Bangladesh?

Jeff Bezos, Nike, Koch Industries and every company that shipped a single job overseas, hired an illegal immigrant over a legal citizen or gave preference to some foreign student who they can pay half as much, can pay a "Freedom" dividend...that I'll vote for...
That’s the leftist populist pitch. Make those that have profited from these forces share with the workers who have been its victims.
 
This one’s simple. Having money should never be a requirement to vote. If you want to issue every citizen a voting ID go for it. But poor people have to spend their money on surviving, not politics. That’s an economic issue not a racial one like you’re trying to make it out to be.
We already settled this. Although none of us like government handouts, most all of us agree we'd be willing to make an exception and issue everyone a free ID who can't afford it if that's what it takes to help eliminate voter fraud.
 
Many homeless and destitute don’t have $27. They still have the right to vote. Doesn’t matter if it’s $1 or $1000000, they have the right to vote.

We all know some sort of cost with voter ID isn't the issue. If that was the key issue, libs would simply say "okay, free voter ID, compliments of American taxpayer..." like they do with everything else and honestly that'd be one of the few freebies I'm okay with.

I wish Trumpy would sign an executive order tomorrow saying "Voter IDs are free for folks below a certain income level..."

I would love to watch people figure out how they're going to protest that.

Let's say there are 25 million people who can't afford a $30 voter ID...$750,000,000...let's round up to a Bil...a small accounting error that doesn't even amount to a pallet of cash to Iran on Uncle Sam's ledgers...
 
We already settled this. Although none of us like government handouts, most all of us agree we'd be willing to make an exception and issue everyone a free ID who can't afford it if that's what it takes to help eliminate voter fraud.
I remember. Was specifically responding to this post that called me out on the issue and tried to make it a racial thing. Sorry for the rehash.
To get a true measure of how racist Dion is, maybe we should get him to state his opinions on voter ID laws and work requirements for welfare recipients.
 
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I haven't paid attention to the mixed marriages conversation. What's the argument here?

Are people saying they're against mixed raced marriages? Or are they just saying there is forced mixed raced representation on TV?

I do agree and laugh sometimes at the amount of mixed raced and LGBT representation in media sometimes.

But I don't think there is anything wrong with mixed raced marriages. Race doesn't mean crap, culture is far more important. My sister has happily been married for almost a decade now with a second child on the way, she is married to a Hawaiian/Somoan. I've been in a relationship with a half white half Mexican girl for a decade. Her parents are a mixed raced marriage. People who focus on race are idiots.
 
If you can’t drum up $6 to $27 in todays economy you either don’t give a crap or you are too mentally unstable to be able to make a cognitive decision. Either way, you shouldn’t be voting. Don’t pretend otherwise.
They are given 20 times or more that amount in benefits unearned so...
 
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And then most jobs were in production, which has since switched to service. You’re entitled to your optimistic opinion that everyone will just adjust in some unforeseen way. But I would posit it actually is fundamentally different this time. The advent of machine learning and interactive systems that sense their surroundings and dynamically interact is a new and unique situation. Instead of machines improving human efficiency AI is now doing things beyond our human limitations.
It's always different this time just like socialism. "It will work this time" Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome after failing every time is insanity. You libs are known for being unhinged and mental. You Epitomize your base.
 
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And then most jobs were in production, which has since switched to service. You’re entitled to your optimistic opinion that everyone will just adjust in some unforeseen way. But I would posit it actually is fundamentally different this time. The advent of machine learning and interactive systems that sense their surroundings and dynamically interact is a new and unique situation. Instead of machines improving human efficiency AI is now doing things beyond our human limitations.

I agree with your point. Kill the weak.
 
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See how silly it sounds?
It means you don't understand the logic as I presented it.
It's the kind of misunderstanding which promotes really bad thinking abilities, like the kind you will see in the next debate undoubtedly your candidates making that they are better because some inconsequential characteristic.


The machines will design and produce the machines. Duh.

Exactly. So we need to start reforming society now to be ready for the changes that are coming. Thank you Andrew Yang.

No thank you Andrew Yang, you don't know shit and couldn't debate a capable, competent individual on this no matter how many cute racial jokes you got up your sleeve.

Someone will always have to work those jobs, you can't take from the productive and give to the unproductive indefinitely without shrinking productivity. The only way you maintain productivity is by increasing it, because one person's productivity increases anothers so that they are mutually dependent. The same failed logic to reform society was used before on the same terms and it would have the same disastrous results. We are nowhere near the reality that you and 10 billion other people will have whatever you want when you want it without having to do anything but take from bezos, it's just not there mathematically or realistically, no machine learning and no time soon.

Again, reality is always against you. Back to today's reality to further solidify the damn point.

The annual median wage for fast-food cooks was $22,300, according to BLS.

Incidentally I once showed Fuzz how I "was" a retired millionaire Walmart stocker in London KY making 22 grand a year, showed an entire budget and how I easily did it. You don't need luck, but enough intelligence to make the right choices and enough conscientiousness to show up to work.

His response was, the familiar, you're just a dumb uneducated redneck which is ofcourse an actual bigoted statement.

But those jobs aren't coming back, well there will always be something the unskilled can work at so long as the economy is growing and tending towards productivity, you can't predict the future, don't know the innovations or the demands.

The fact is just that, and not a schtick in any way, this is the only place/time in the world where quite literally almost anyone can succeed extraordinarily, whatever you define success as to you individually. You should be grateful of that fact and do right by you and your family and stop complaining other bigotspeople have different views, an imaginary friend who defines family and good for them, why do you (plural) care so much? They aren't imposing their views on you anymore, you've won so to speak, don't you recognize victory? You're free to be as degenerate as you want, but not impose it on others right? Why can't they complain when you are dis proportionally devaluing them and promoting everything else? Why are you allowed to be intolerant?

It's the same logic... your wokism is every bit the intolerant, dogmatic religion you think you rail against

Anwyay, I think I will end it here, get back to watching this game on a ridiculously clear TV Back to the Future told me I would have...these long winded posts where I decimate every single point you people think you can make is typically a waste of my time. You've exposed better than you can imagine how bad your thinking is, how unAmerican it is... it's not 90% of society that's intolerant bigots, it's you small vocal minority of dangerously ignorant fools. That's what it means to be blinded by ideology, it doesn't matter how much data or how solid the argument is against you, you will rationalize it away or just get angry, baseless name call the other person the argument bigoted so you don't have to entertain it or racialize it "you don't know what it's like" or whatever... anything to maintain the distorted, deluded worldview and I'm actually liberal bro.




https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...urger-already-pays-managers-160000-2020-01-09


Taco Bell will try paying some managers $100,000 a year — but In-N-Out Burger already pays managers $160,000

Published: Jan 12, 2020 12:31 p.m. ET







Personal finance reporter

Taco Bell wants to give some of its workers the whole enchilada.

The home of Doritos Locos Tacos says it’s going to test paying managers $100,000 a year at some company-owned locations in the Northeast and Midwest starting later this year. Taco YUM, -1.33% announced the plan Thursday and also said that as of Jan. 1, 2020, all of its company employees “can become eligible to receive” at least 24 hours of paid sick time per calendar year.

“We are constantly exploring new ways to invest in our people, enhance morale and boost recruitment and retention,” Ferril Onyett, Taco Bell’s senior director of global training and international HR, told MarketWatch in an emailed statement. Managers have “a huge impact” on the restaurant performance, customer experience, and “team member satisfaction,” she added.



Taco Bell said it will start the six-figure salary pilot later this year, but did not name an exact date. The company does not yet know how many managers at its 450 company-owned stores will get the $100,000 salaries or how long it will offer the higher salaries, Onyett said. Current salaries for general managers at Taco Bell’s company-owned stores range from $50,000 to $80,000, a spokeswoman said.

“We hope we can evaluate the effect of increased salaries on manager and team morale, restaurant performance, recruitment and retention, and customer experience,” Onyett said.



The six-figure salaries will make Taco Bell an outlier in the food service industry. The median salary for general and operations managers in the restaurant industry was $59,670 in 2018, according to the most recent Bureau of Labor Statistics figures. (Those figures don’t make a distinction between managers at fast-food establishments vs. sit-down restaurants). The annual median wage for fast-food cooks was $22,300, according to BLS.

At Burger King QSR, +0.53%, restaurant managers have an average base pay of $45,414, according to the employment website Glassdoor. Burger King, Subway, and Wendy’s WEN, -1.23% did not respond to a request for comment on its manager salaries. A McDonald’s MCD, -0.37% spokeswoman declined to comment. A Chick-fil-A spokeswoman said the company couldn’t provide salary information because it’s a franchise and wages are set by the franchise operators. A Dunkin’ DNKN, +1.10% spokeswoman also said wages are set by franchise owners. “We believe the majority of our franchisees pay above minimum wage to all but those employees who have no prior work experience,” said spokeswoman Lindsay Cronin.


The privately held California-based fast-food chain In-N-Out Burger has been paying its managers $100,000 and above for at least the past decade, said Denny Warnick, vice president of operations. The average salary for one of its restaurant managers is now more than $160,000 a year, he said. Starting wages at the chain range from $12 to $17 an hour, depending on the location.

“A higher wage structure is helpful in creating an upbeat and customer-focused atmosphere, and we do enjoy relatively low turnover which leads to more experienced teams working in our restaurants,” Warnick said. “However, perhaps even more important are treating our associates well and maintaining a positive working environment.”
 
Many homeless and destitute don’t have $27. They still have the right to vote. Doesn’t matter if it’s $1 or $1000000, they have the right to vote.

Willing to bet if somebody is homeless and destitute, they aren’t gonna have the wherewithal to find a polling station and vote. But regardless, you’re still advocating that we put the legitimacy of our elections at stake for a very small percentage of people who might not have the means to get an ID.

So tell me Dion, if no ID is required, how do we know the person voting is who they say they are? Are polling stations just supposed to take the word of whoever shows up? Minus an ID, what security measures are in place to ensure the vote being cast is legitimate?
 
I haven't paid attention to the mixed marriages conversation. What's the argument here?
People who focus on race are idiots.

The argument was that there's an agenda to the disproportionate portrayal and I used it as a springboard basically to show that people who focus on race are idiots, namely modern Democrats.
 
Willing to bet if somebody is homeless and destitute, they aren’t gonna have the wherewithal to find a polling station and vote. But regardless, you’re still advocating that we put the legitimacy of our elections at stake for a very small percentage of people who might not have the means to get an ID.

So tell me Dion, if no ID is required, how do we know the person voting is who they say they are? Are polling stations just supposed to take the word of whoever shows up? Minus an ID, what security measures are in place to ensure the vote being cast is legitimate?
He knows. He is a corrupt lying wretch that is all in on destroying this country.
 
Are you really bitching about an ID that costs between $6 and $27? That’s your push back for saying “having money shouldn’t be a requirement to vote?”
$27?
LOL@ Liberals crying about people can't afford to get an ID, but yet Liberals support same people that buy lottery tickets, booze and smokes,not even counting drugs, but yet, they can't afford an ID?
 
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I remember. Was specifically responding to this post that called me out on the issue and tried to make it a racial thing. Sorry for the rehash.
Does it make me a racist for thinking an ID should be required to vote or that an able bodied, non-working welfare recipient should be required to work a certain number of hours or perform some sort of community service in order to maintain those benefits?
 
Does it make me a racist for thinking an ID should be required to vote or that an able bodied, non-working welfare recipient should be required to work a certain number of hours or perform some sort of community service in order to maintain those benefits?
I dunno. Those both seem like economic issues to me. Don’t know why you’re bringing race into them.
 
I dunno. Those both seem like economic issues to me. Don’t know why you’re bringing race into them.

this all started when you accused somebody of being racist because they dare question the disproportionality of interracial instances on TV versus real life. And it’s been a general consensus among liberals, that the rights push for Voter ID and work requirements is inherently racist in nature.
 
this all started when you accused somebody of being racist because they dare question the disproportionality of interracial instances on TV versus real life. And it’s been a general consensus among liberals, that the rights push for Voter ID and work requirements is inherently racist in nature.
He is a hypocrite.
 
ID should absolutely be required to vote. Idiotic to think otherwise. Give them out “free” to those who can’t afford it but can prove they are a citizen but make them work it off with community service.

ID costs $30? That seems high since my drivers license cost $20...but OK. Those that can’t afford it get one for free but have to work 6 hours of community service to earn it.

Or...

If you don’t like that then just make it completely free. I would be fine with that. Plenty of wasteful federal government expenditures out there that you could eliminate partially or completely and replace with a free ID program for poor people...that’s a program that would actually benefit the entire population by making elections legit.

Here’s just a couple of examples of such waste...

- $51.7 million in federal grants were used for researchers to travel to Hawaii, where according to Paul’s report, they compiled “already existing literature the researchers found on Google Scholar between February and March 2017.”



- Some old schools, firehouses, offices, and more aren’t being used anymore, but the government still holds onto them—about 770,000 unused and underused buildings nationwide, as of 2016. The thing is, those buildings don’t just sit there innocently; even empty, they require maintenance such as basic power, a mowed lawn, and pipes that won’t freeze. Those costs add up, to the tune of about $1.7 billion every year, according to NPR



Plenty more just like those or worse.

The truth is that Dems don’t want legit elections. They don’t want verification of voters via legit ID. They want illegals to vote. They want to lower the voting age. They want dead people to vote. They rig primaries. They are losing their base and hemorrhaging voters rapidly with their radical agendas and insane platforms and they need to muddy the waters as much as possible. The black vote alone in this next election is going to freak the Dems out. It’s going to be a complete game changer.
 
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