POLITICAL THREAD

[Mashburned]

Gonna take some really big news story/event to make this dem political blunder go away.

Heard Oprah was sick. Clinton's could go ahead and dispose of her. That would dominate the news for a good week.

 

[Dore95]

Put aside the Biden stuff - or even assume that Biden and his son broke the law. The fact that the president asked a foreign leader to investigate a political rival is a problem. Colossally stupid to make that request on the phone with others listening (and taking notes) a day after the Mueller hearing where the topic was whether there was interference in the last election.

 

[Bill Derington]

thats some high level shit there

So you don’t think that’s a relevant question? He publicly stated he warned the govt that if the prosecutor wasn’t fired within 6 hours, they weren’t getting 1.25 billion dollars.

What makes this prosecutor so important to Biden? What was he investigating that was near and dear to Biden?

It’s a simple question Platinum.

 

[warrior-cat]

The GoP congress is already flipping out that he released this. Why he would release even an edited memorandum when he throws out the carrot and then the stick.

False.

 

[CrittendenWildcat]

Regardless of whether it helps Trump's re-election or not:

*Doesn't our President have the prerogative to seek the truth about any foreign interference with our political processes and bring anyone who has acted illegally to justice?
*Doesn't our president have the right to seek coordination with foreign powers to expose and eliminate corruption?

Dems, you are digging your own grave by even raising the subject of impeachment with this as the basis. See you in 2024.

 

[Bill Derington]

Put aside the Biden stuff - or even assume that Biden and his son broke the law. The fact that the president asked a foreign leader to investigate a political rival is a problem. Colossally stupid to make that request on the phone with others listening (and taking notes) a day after the Mueller hearing where the topic was whether there was interference in the last election.

The President has no responsibility to hold corrupt members of the govt accountable?

 

[screwduke1]

The GoP congress is already flipping out that he released this. Why he would release even an edited memorandum when he throws out the carrot and then the stick.

Barely 12 hours ago your side was DEMANDING it be released. He releases it, and now its "Why did he release it"

My god you people need help.

 

[CatsFanGG24]

The President has no responsibility to hold corrupt members of the govt accountable?

Exactly. You can get away with anything if you are a political rival off limits! Do not touch.

They dont have the same feeling about Obama spying on Trump though...not rivals I suppose.

 

[Platinumdrgn]

The liberal NY Times seemed to think that Joe Biden and his coke-head son had a Ukraine conflict of interest problem months ago.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/us/politics/biden-son-ukraine.html

try reading the original NYT story writen 4 years ago.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/...-ukraine-joe-biden-son-hunter-biden-ties.html

 

[screwduke1]

Put aside the Biden stuff - or even assume that Biden and his son broke the law. The fact that the president asked a foreign leader to investigate a political rival is a problem. Colossally stupid to make that request on the phone with others listening (and taking notes) a day after the Mueller hearing where the topic was whether there was interference in the last election.

But it was ok for Hillary to use Russian lies in the form of a dossier against Trump? Was that ok to you? Just wondering.

 

[screwduke1]

try reading the original NYT story writen 4 years ago.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/...-ukraine-joe-biden-son-hunter-biden-ties.html

Lmao. Dont read that one, read this one from 4 years ago/plat logic.

 

[ThePunk]

Put aside the Biden stuff - or even assume that Biden and his son broke the law. The fact that the president asked a foreign leader to investigate a political rival is a problem. Colossally stupid to make that request on the phone with others listening (and taking notes) a day after the Mueller hearing where the topic was whether there was interference in the last election.

I agree, Why not ask The Justice Department to open a inquiry on Biden. The Democratic Party are throwing everything at The President. This one argument just might stick. It’s borderline embarrassing the depths in which politicians are willing to go.

 

[cat_chaser]

Put aside the Biden stuff - or even assume that Biden and his son broke the law. The fact that the president asked a foreign leader to investigate a political rival is a problem. Colossally stupid to make that request on the phone with others listening (and taking notes) a day after the Mueller hearing where the topic was whether there was interference in the last election.

Sounded more like he was asking for cooperation with our own investigation into it.

Of course, I'm sure Trump figured what's good for the goose is good for the gander. You know, Obama/Clinton/FBI/DOJ using fake foreign intel and spies in an attempted coup (at least with this particular case the intel is real and Biden is on record as bribing/blackmailing Ukraine).

Funny, never saw you around when the attempted coup was going on. Let me guess - you're a moderate?

 

[screwduke1]

Judge Nap is a total clown. He also said the hush payments were crimes too.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Why would Biden give 2 shits about a prosecutor in Ukraine?

This is a very good point.

Adam Schiff just said Trump was speaking like a mafia boss ...Plat are you an advisor to Schiff or just on the talking points email list?

"A SHAKEDOWN!"

It's hilarious/scary. They literally all ensure they're on the same talking points.

 

[Gassy_Knowls]

But it was ok for Hillary to use Russian lies in the form of a dossier against Trump? Was that ok to you? Just wondering.

Completely ok to him, becauase Dore is a linatic liberal

 

[Platinumdrgn]

Are you joking? Hunter Biden, a guy with no experience in the energy field whatsoever gets a $600,000 per year board of director position with an energy company in the Ukraine, and you think the evidence isn't there?

Seriously, if there is such a thing as going double full retard, you have achieved it.

a politicians son got a board seat. Thats some BREAKING news! Thats almost the entire purpose of boards these days. To provide a "legal" way to give useless politicians and the families cash flow. Almost every member of congress ends up on multiple boards when they retire. Look at the Boards of the big companies. It's all politicians and executives fired from other big companies, one giant circle jerk. Paul Ryan got a FOX board seat 2 months after he left congress. Cantor and Boehnor both got board seats soon as they left office. Hillary was on the walmart Board for 6 years. Welcome to America.

 

[AustinTXCat]

The GoP congress is already flipping out that he released this. Why he would release even an edited memorandum when he throws out the carrot and then the stick.

 

[rqarnold]

But it was ok for Hillary to use Russian lies in the form of a dossier against Trump? Was that ok to you? Just wondering.

Actually just about everything in the dossier with the exception of the pee-pee tapes has been proven to be true...and the pee-pee tapes haven't been disproven.

Regardless, why is every Trump misstep always rebutted with what you see as a misstep by someone else? Two wrongs make right?
If that's the case then there will be little that the next POTUS can do that you can bitch about because DJT will have done it all and you and others defended it.

 

[trueblujr2]

a politicians son got a board seat. Thats some BREAKING news! Thats almost the entire purpose of boards these days. To provide a "legal" way to give useless politicians and the families cash flow. Almost every member of congress ends up on multiple boards when they retire. Look at the Boards of the big companies. It's all politicians and executives fired from other big companies, one giant circle jerk. Paul Ryan got a FOX board seat 2 months after he left congress. Cantor and Boehnor both got board seats soon as they left office. Welcome to America.

Hey Retard...If it was Biden himself getting the board seat, (which was actually a "Consultants" role for and industry which he knew nothing about) THen its a different story, but it was his drug-addicted idiot son we're talking about.

C'mon, you can do better.

 

[Platinumdrgn]

Oh ya, Trump playing that 6D chess. Comey, McCabe, Hillary, Obama just days away from prison when that IG reports drops!

 

[Bill Derington]

a politicians son got a board seat. Thats some BREAKING news! Thats almost the entire purpose of boards these days. To provide a "legal" way to give useless politicians and the families cash flow. Almost every member of congress ends up on multiple boards when they retire. Look at the Boards of the big companies. It's all politicians and executives fired from other big companies, one giant circle jerk. Paul Ryan got a FOX board seat 2 months after he left congress. Cantor and Boehnor both got board seats soon as they left office. Hillary was on the walmart Board for 6 years. Welcome to America.

He got on the board right after Biden was appointed the lead on Ukraine talks by Obama, within weeks.

 

[Platinumdrgn]

Hey Retard...If it was Biden himself getting the board seat, (which was actually a "Consultants" role for and industry which he knew nothing about) THen its a different story, but it was his drug-addicted idiot son we're talking about.

C'mon, you can do better.

Yes, a company gave a guy a board seat because they figured it would make his dad happy. That's not news, that's an everyday occurrence. It's also not even remotely illegal. as Trump would say. NO COLLUSION, NO QUID QUO PRO!

 

[AustinTXCat]

Oh ya, Trump playing that 6D chess. Comey, McCabe, Hillary, Obama just days away from prison when that IG reports drops!

 

[P19978]

The incompetancy of the Democratic party never ceases to amaze me.

Now I know why Trump decided to run as a Republican.

 

[Bill Derington]

Yes, a company gave a guy a board seat because they figured it would make his dad happy. That's not news, that's an everyday occurrence. It's also not even remotely illegal. as Trump would say. NO COLLUSION, NO QUID QUO PRO!

That in itself isn’t, but Biden openly admitting to threatening to withhold 1.25 billion, if the prosecutor investigating the company his son is consulting isn’t fired within 6 hours most definitely is.
You’re being played, Pelosi didn’t announce anything yesterday, she can’t just unilaterally open an inquiry. There’s nothing to investigate here, as Trump released the transcript, the whistleblower complaint will also be made public. Nothing on the transcript is criminal, this whole episode is Pelosi trying to keep the lunatics happy without doing anything.

 

[BigBlueDave]

Actually just about everything in the dossier with the exception of the pee-pee tapes has been proven to be true...and the pee-pee tapes haven't been disproven.

Regardless, why is every Trump misstep always rebutted with what you see as a misstep by someone else? Two wrongs make right?
If that's the case then there will be little that the next POTUS can do that you can bitch about because DJT will have done it all and you and others defended it.

rq molests collies and beats his wife.

It has not been disproved.

 

[Platinumdrgn]

LMAO!

The White House accidentally emailed its talking points about the President's call with the Ukrainian leader to House Democrats.

The talking points include lines like: "Let’s be clear, there was no quid pro quo for Ukraine to get US aid in exchange for looking into Biden or his son."

The White House later tried to recall the email message.

 

[Platinumdrgn]

Here is your bombshell news on the Whistleblower being a political hack.

“Although the ICIG’s preliminary review found ‘some indica of an arguable political bias on the part of the Complainant in favor of a rival political candidate,’ the ICIG concluded that the complaint’s allegations nonetheless appeared credible,” the opinion said.
According to the ICIG, “statements made by the president during the call could be viewed as soliciting a foreign campaign contribution in violation of campaign-finance laws.”

 

[Dionysus444]

But it was ok for Hillary to use Russian lies in the form of a dossier against Trump? Was that ok to you? Just wondering.

Trump colluded with the Russian government. The Steele dossier was put together using information from Russian citizens who are in direct opposition to the Russian government. It’s like saying if the Patriot movement discovered wrongdoing by the US government that information should be ignored because it’s American! Patently ridiculous.

 

[Bill Derington]

Talking points? Where is any of those points raised not exactly what occurred?

 

[DwayneMeighan]

The fact that the president asked a foreign leader to investigate a political rival is a problem.

Explain how that is a "problem" but this isn't.




The only problem here is the Trump fights back. He won't take it lying down. He's not your typical spineless R that the Ds and media are used to. He constantly gives them a taste of their own hypocrisy. No more of this rules for thee but not for me bs.

 

[CrittendenWildcat]

a politicians son got a board seat. Thats some BREAKING news! Thats almost the entire purpose of boards these days. To provide a "legal" way to give useless politicians and the families cash flow. Almost every member of congress ends up on multiple boards when they retire. Look at the Boards of the big companies. It's all politicians and executives fired from other big companies, one giant circle jerk. Paul Ryan got a FOX board seat 2 months after he left congress. Cantor and Boehnor both got board seats soon as they left office. Hillary was on the walmart Board for 6 years. Welcome to America.

So, if Donald Jr. accepted a seat on the Board of Directors of a Ukrainian energy corporation, that's OK, right? You'd be saying, "Oh, that's just how it is, no big deal," right?

You are SUCH an obtuse TDS-infected partisan hack.

 

[Bill Derington]

Trump colluded with the Russian government. The Steele dossier was put together using information from Russian citizens who are in direct opposition to the Russian government. It’s like saying if the Patriot movement discovered wrongdoing by the US government that information should be ignored because it’s American! Patently ridiculous.

You have no idea what was used to put together the Steele dossier, and Trump did not collide with the Russian Govt, we had 2 years of investigations on that RQ.

 

[Mashburned]

CNN is classic right now.

 

[DwayneMeighan]

Actually just about everything in the dossier with the exception of the pee-pee tapes has been proven to be true...and the pee-pee tapes haven't been disproven.

^^^ Definitely didn't read the Mueller report.

BTW, mind linking to these truths being proven with actual evidence because Mueller himself couldn't so you must have top notch sources.

 

[cat_chaser]

Actually just about everything in the dossier with the exception of the pee-pee tapes has been proven to be true...and the pee-pee tapes haven't been disproven.

Folks, if this doesn’t scare the shit out of you I don’t know what will.

Here we have someone that TRULY believes the Steele dossier is real. I’m not sure if there is still a media outlet out there that still believes this. FFS.....Steele himself doesn’t believe the info is real. God damn!

Yet, here we are with Fuzz. Someone who should be informed enough to know better just by being a participant in this thread.

I can only imagine how many millions of others are out there who are just as stupid and brainwashed. F’n scary.

 

[BigBlueDave]

If I'm in 2nd or 3rd place, oh well. Apologies in advance.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf


The hearsay whistleblower has to produce a recording to refute this or STFU.

 

[ManitouDan]

When is that dipshit John Yarmouth running gain ? Surely an R can beat this turd . He is signed up for impeachment , prob against the will of 75% of his constituents .

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

An attack on our free press. It's a dangerous time to get facts In America