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  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
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Is this all you have? The left is crying about Trump eating ice cream? What a bunch of losers.

Trump is appointing conservative judges that will bring America back to a respected nation. Baby killers are on notice their days are numbered. Celebrate life and realize an innocent baby that would have been slaughtered may actually live thanks to Trump. So here is a big scoop for his conservative judge appointments.

For this I put the entire gallon of ice cream on his ice cream cone and give him a cake too.
And a hojo to go I bet
 
False, Electors must do what the state vote carries.

Today, all but two states (Maine and Nebraska) award all their electoral votes to the single candidate with the most votes statewide (the so-called "winner-take-all" system).
They do not have to do what the state vote carries. They only currently do that out of long tradition. Every election there are about a dozen faithless electors that vote outside their state results. The federal appeals court ruled just 2 weeks ago that states cannot punish electors for their votes because the constitution outlays no rules for voting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/22/us/politics/electoral-college-faithless-elector.html
Electors are free to choose whoever they want which is why we even have the EC. The founders thought the common man was to stupid and uneducated and the EC was a way to keep a complete moron like Trump from becoming President.

Alexander Hamilton described the Founding Fathers' view of how electors would be chosen:

A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated [tasks]


originally electors were chosen district by district instead of statewide. You didn't vote for president, you voted for electors. And each individual elector made his choice for President. But then politicians didn't like not having absolute control so they slowly reformed it to statewide. People like Hamilton and Madison were not happy with the changes but it was their fault for leaving the constitution so vague. They tried to push an amendment to fix this but then Hamilton died and we got stuck with our dumbed down version of the EC we have now. Now the political parties choose the electors. Your vote for president is 100% symbolic, you don't even vote for your elector anymore.

It's amazing how uneducated Americans like you are on the system that chooses our leaders.
 
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0. You really can’t give up trying to be right about anything w Puerto Rico. So let’s say you Were born and raised in KY and move to Puerto Rico. You plan to live their the rest of your life. You establish residency. You won’t be able to vote in presidential elections even though you were born in the US. Are you still a citizen?

You can vote absentee in KY in this scenario. Just Bc you move to another country and establish residency or even citizenship does not strip you of your rights. If you earn income as an American in any country you have to claim that income in the USA. Idk what your ultimate point is Bc you make zero sense
 
They do not have to do what the state vote carries. They only currently do that out of long tradition. Every election there are about a dozen faithless electors that vote outside their state results. The federal appeals court ruled just 2 weeks ago that states cannot punish electors for their votes because the constitution outlays no rules for voting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/22/us/politics/electoral-college-faithless-elector.html
Electors are free to choose whoever they want which is why we even have the EC. The founders thought the common man was to stupid and uneducated and the EC was a way to keep a complete moron like Trump from becoming President.

Alexander Hamilton described the Founding Fathers' view of how electors would be chosen:

A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated [tasks]


originally electors were chosen district by district instead of statewide. You didn't vote for president, you voted for electors. And each individual elector made his choice for President. But then politicians didn't like not having absolute control so they slowly reformed it to statewide. People like Hamilton and Madison were not happy with the changes but it was their fault for leaving the constitution so vague. They tried to push an amendment to fix this but then Hamilton died and we got stuck with our dumbed down version of the EC we have now. Now the political parties choose the electors. Your vote for president is 100% symbolic, you don't even vote for your elector anymore.

It's amazing how uneducated Americans like you are on the system that chooses our leaders.

Wrong again. And as far as not knowing the system that chooses the President, it is why you and other dumbasses still claim that Hillary won the popular vote.

The EC worked exactly as it was supposed to work and that's why we don't have an incompetent, murderous, child molesting, traitor as our bitch in chief.
 
They do not have to do what the state vote carries. They only currently do that out of long tradition. Every election there are about a dozen faithless electors that vote outside their state results. The federal appeals court ruled just 2 weeks ago that states cannot punish electors for their votes because the constitution outlays no rules for voting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/22/us/politics/electoral-college-faithless-elector.html
Electors are free to choose whoever they want which is why we even have the EC. The founders thought the common man was to stupid and uneducated and the EC was a way to keep a complete moron like Trump from becoming President.

Alexander Hamilton described the Founding Fathers' view of how electors would be chosen:

A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated [tasks]


originally electors were chosen district by district instead of statewide. You didn't vote for president, you voted for electors. And each individual elector made his choice for President. But then politicians didn't like not having absolute control so they slowly reformed it to statewide. People like Hamilton and Madison were not happy with the changes but it was their fault for leaving the constitution so vague. They tried to push an amendment to fix this but then Hamilton died and we got stuck with our dumbed down version of the EC we have now. Now the political parties choose the electors. Your vote for president is 100% symbolic, you don't even vote for your elector anymore.

It's amazing how uneducated Americans like you are on the system that chooses our leaders.
False.

"The electoral college system is established in the Constitution. When voters cast a ballot for president, they are actually choosing members of the electoral college, called electors, who are pledged to that presidential candidate. The electors then choose the president. Electors almost always vote for the popular vote winner, and some states have laws requiring them to do so."

There is no federal law that requires electors to vote as they have pledged, but 29 states and the District of Columbia have legal control over how their electors vote in the Electoral College. This means their electors are bound by state law and/or by state or party pledge to cast their vote for the candidate that wins the statewide popular vote. At the same time, this also means that there are 21 states in the union that have no requirements of, or legal control over, their electors. Therefore, despite the outcome of a state’s popular vote, the state’s electors are ultimately free to vote in whatever manner they please, including an abstention, with no legal repercussions. The states with legal control over their electors are the following 29 and D.C.:

Alabama (Code of Ala. §17-19-2)
Alaska (Alaska Stat. §15.30.090)
California (Election Code §6906)
Colorado (CRS §1-4-304)
Connecticut (Conn. Gen. Stat. §9-176)
Delaware (15 Del C §4303)
District of Columbia (§1-1312(g))
Florida (Fla. Stat. §103.021(1))
Hawaii (HRS §14-28)
Maine (21-A MRS §805)
Maryland (Md Ann Code art 33, §8-505)
Massachusetts (MGL, ch. 53, §8)
Michigan (MCL §168.47)
Mississippi (Miss Code Ann §23-15-785)
Montana (MCA §13-25-104)
Nebraska (§32-714)
Nevada (NRS §298.050)
New Mexico (NM Stat Ann §1-15-9)
North Carolina (NC Gen Stat §163-212)
Ohio (ORC Ann §3505.40)
Oklahoma (26 Okl St §10-102)
Oregon (ORS §248.355)
South Carolina (SC Code Ann §7-19-80)
Tennessee (Tenn Code Ann §2-15-104(c))
Utah (Utah Code Ann §20A-13-304)
Vermont (17 VSA §2732)
Virginia (§24.2-203)
Washington (RCW §29.71.020)
Wisconsin (Wis Stat §7.75)
Wyoming (Wyo Stat §22-19-108)

Most of these state laws generally assert that an elector shall cast his or her vote for the candidates who won a majority of the state’s popular vote, or for the candidate of the party that nominated the elector.

Once again you are proven mostly wrong. What did you say about some Americans not knowing their electoral system. Know what you are talking completely about before posting.
 
So if a guy threatens to kill his neighbor, and the cops fail to show up to investigate, then that guy goes on to kill people, how much money does that city owe the victims?

What the shit is going on here. “Uh, his house didn’t show up on our gps...uhhh”. They didn’t even talk to the neighbor...or the other neighbor. His house would be somewhere close to them. That is a bs lie. They let this whacko commit mass murder.
 
The above post is Mash trying to cover his tracks...

I really believe @Mashburned is a high level law enforcement officer in Texas. This woman in Odessa called police about being threatened by a neighbor with a rifle and police couldn't find his HOUSE...

Yet in the same state of Texas when some dirty b-tch licked some Blue Bell ice cream and then put it back on the shelf...authorities spent two weeks going through surveillance to pinpoint which Wal-Mart in the gawd damn state of Texas the Blue Bell licking took place at.
 
False.

"The electoral college system is established in the Constitution. When voters cast a ballot for president, they are actually choosing members of the electoral college, called electors, who are pledged to that presidential candidate. The electors then choose the president. Electors almost always vote for the popular vote winner, and some states have laws requiring them to do so."

There is no federal law that requires electors to vote as they have pledged, but 29 states and the District of Columbia have legal control over how their electors vote in the Electoral College. This means their electors are bound by state law and/or by state or party pledge to cast their vote for the candidate that wins the statewide popular vote. At the same time, this also means that there are 21 states in the union that have no requirements of, or legal control over, their electors. Therefore, despite the outcome of a state’s popular vote, the state’s electors are ultimately free to vote in whatever manner they please, including an abstention, with no legal repercussions. The states with legal control over their electors are the following 29 and D.C.:

Alabama (Code of Ala. §17-19-2)
Alaska (Alaska Stat. §15.30.090)
California (Election Code §6906)
Colorado (CRS §1-4-304)
Connecticut (Conn. Gen. Stat. §9-176)
Delaware (15 Del C §4303)
District of Columbia (§1-1312(g))
Florida (Fla. Stat. §103.021(1))
Hawaii (HRS §14-28)
Maine (21-A MRS §805)
Maryland (Md Ann Code art 33, §8-505)
Massachusetts (MGL, ch. 53, §8)
Michigan (MCL §168.47)
Mississippi (Miss Code Ann §23-15-785)
Montana (MCA §13-25-104)
Nebraska (§32-714)
Nevada (NRS §298.050)
New Mexico (NM Stat Ann §1-15-9)
North Carolina (NC Gen Stat §163-212)
Ohio (ORC Ann §3505.40)
Oklahoma (26 Okl St §10-102)
Oregon (ORS §248.355)
South Carolina (SC Code Ann §7-19-80)
Tennessee (Tenn Code Ann §2-15-104(c))
Utah (Utah Code Ann §20A-13-304)
Vermont (17 VSA §2732)
Virginia (§24.2-203)
Washington (RCW §29.71.020)
Wisconsin (Wis Stat §7.75)
Wyoming (Wyo Stat §22-19-108)

Most of these state laws generally assert that an elector shall cast his or her vote for the candidates who won a majority of the state’s popular vote, or for the candidate of the party that nominated the elector.

Once again you are proven mostly wrong. What did you say about some Americans not knowing their electoral system. Know what you are talking completely about before posting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/22/us/politics/electoral-college-faithless-elector.html
Read this dipshit.
“The text of the Constitution makes clear that states do not have the constitutional authority to interfere with presidential electors who exercise their constitutional right to vote for the president and vice president candidates of their choice,”
This ruling invalidates all state laws trying to control electoral votes. And those state laws were never enforced anyway or were just small fines. Electors can vote for whoever they want, always have been able to. In 2016 there were 10 faithless votes. Conservatives should be 100% against the current system for the EC. as originalists it goes against everything you proclaim to believe in. Political parties should not be choosing electors, that is supposed to be the American voters responsibility.
 
Wrong again. And as far as not knowing the system that chooses the President, it is why you and other dumbasses still claim that Hillary won the popular vote.

The EC worked exactly as it was supposed to work and that's why we don't have an incompetent, murderous, child molesting, traitor as our bitch in chief.
65,853,514>62,984,828. Just saying. Now here's where you post the EC numbers.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/22/us/politics/electoral-college-faithless-elector.html
Read this dipshit.
“The text of the Constitution makes clear that states do not have the constitutional authority to interfere with presidential electors who exercise their constitutional right to vote for the president and vice president candidates of their choice,”
This ruling invalidates all state laws trying to control electoral votes. And those state laws were never enforced anyway or were just small fines. Electors can vote for whoever they want, always have been able to. In 2016 there were 10 faithless votes. Conservatives should be 100% against the current system for the EC. as originalists it goes against everything you proclaim to believe in. Political parties should not be choosing electors, that is supposed to be the American voters responsibility.
I read it but, what you do not understand is that if enough of the states that require it do not agree with that ruling they can refuse to comply and there is nothing the federal government can do about it. Plus, it was a split vote probably to be overturned in the future.
 
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You can vote absentee in KY in this scenario. Just Bc you move to another country and establish residency or even citizenship does not strip you of your rights. If you earn income as an American in any country you have to claim that income in the USA. Idk what your ultimate point is Bc you make zero sense

You are wrong; read what I wrote initially. If you are a resident of Puerto Rico, you are unable to vote in KY. You cannot have residency in two areas (states/territories) of the US. What you are describing is an American citizen living in a foreign country and voting as an absentee .
 
You are wrong; read what I wrote initially. If you are a resident of Puerto Rico, you are unable to vote in KY. You cannot have residency in two areas (states/territories) of the US. What you are describing is an American citizen living in a foreign country and voting as an absentee .

Do you know what it takes to become a Puerto Rican resident? Unless you intentionally go through several steps you’re not just going to become a resident Bc you live there. I promise you though becoming a Puerto Rican resident is not going to cause you to give up voting rights. That would be challenged in the courts and a loser.
 
Do you know what it takes to become a Puerto Rican resident? Unless you intentionally go through several steps you’re not just going to become a resident Bc you live there. I promise you though becoming a Puerto Rican resident is not going to cause you to give up voting rights. That would be challenged in the courts and a loser.

What? Are you saying that I can't just pack my bags and move to Puerto Rico?
 
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