POLITICAL THREAD

[warrior-cat]

Kitty still hasn't figured out that America has always been a nation of immigrants...

Joerulesmorons has never figured out that no one is stopping immigration, just illegal entry for security reasons.

Being a disingenuous left wing talking head makes you out to look stupid or just plain uneducated. Pick one.


Edited for clarity. That was a joke moron however, illegal immigration for voting reasons is not.

 

[vhcat70]

What organized labor is even left in this nation?

You do realize the Democrats do not drive domestic vehicles, right?

Teslas only.

 

[Dionysus444]

Well yes dipshit it is true. There are democrats circumventing immigration laws. There are people blaming white males for every problem. There are people (like you) who cannot have a disagreement without either calling someone a racist or Nazi.

Everything he said was factual.

“White males have to answer”. Hmm. Can’t imagine why that kind of talk would alarm anyone at best, or at worst, serve as a dog whistle to the unbalanced.

There are daily calls for violence against liberals and immigrants in this thread completely openly. But no poor wittle white males are in danger because of my of scary dog whistles...

 

[KRJ1975]

Teslas only.

I drive an F150.

 

[Mashburned]

So I looked into this a bit more and the US is near the top of the world with mental illness. With that being said, as you mentioned, one of the reasons is because we are better than most places with diagnosis. It makes sense that we are going to have a higher percentage than South Sudan.

Economics plays a huge role; typically the poorer you are, the more likely. It did talk a lot about drug problems, but from what I gathered, drug addiction and mental illness are separate from one another. However, as many surely know, many who suffer from mental illness will naturally gravitate to drugs and alcohol. One thing I found pretty interesting is that women suffer much more than men when it comes to mental illness. Not just one type (say depression), but in just about every category. Why don't we see women shooting up places nearly as often? I can't recall the last time a woman involved in a mass shooting (I am sure it's happened)

The gun violence is an issue and as you mentioned, there are lots of factors: relatively easy access to guns, drugs/gangs, mental illness, lax gun enforcement, etc. All need to be addressed if the country wants to see a decrease in gun violence. I get frustrated when people will post that it is solely a mental illness issue, which is not the case. If we could magically cure mental illness, we will still have gun violence, although not as much. I also think the majority of Americans (including Dems) don't advocate for no guns whatsoever. A few on this board and others, often find that random tweet and run with it. I don't own a gun and most likely never will, but don't think guns should be completely outlawed. Found this also: a bit dated but interesting nonetheless: https://news.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx

Here is a site I have seen before that tracks gun violence: https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/. They define a mass shooting where 4+ people are shot iirc

“Better with diagnosis” is a two edged sword. We have created mental illnesses and dangerously over prescribed mind altering drugs to treat these illnesses.

The gun stuff is retarded. Not even worth discussion. As I said, a large portion of this country has restricted guns, and they won’t stop till law abiding citizens’ gun rights are next to nil. And the reasons have nothing to do with saving lives, everything to do with government power. We have already lost battle after battle, don’t worry. Your side will win the gun war eventually. It’s inevitable, and when that doesn’t solve our problems, well, the people will just lose more rights. See Europe, where you can be jailed for your thoughts and expressions.

 

[420 Bro]

Such a shitty take. Why he posted that today is anyone’s guess.

 

[warrior-cat]

So I looked into this a bit more and the US is near the top of the world with mental illness. With that being said, as you mentioned, one of the reasons is because we are better than most places with diagnosis. It makes sense that we are going to have a higher percentage than South Sudan.

Economics plays a huge role; typically the poorer you are, the more likely. It did talk a lot about drug problems, but from what I gathered, drug addiction and mental illness are separate from one another. However, as many surely know, many who suffer from mental illness will naturally gravitate to drugs and alcohol. One thing I found pretty interesting is that women suffer much more than men when it comes to mental illness. Not just one type (say depression), but in just about every category. Why don't we see women shooting up places nearly as often? I can't recall the last time a woman involved in a mass shooting (I am sure it's happened)

The gun violence is an issue and as you mentioned, there are lots of factors: relatively easy access to guns, drugs/gangs, mental illness, lax gun enforcement, etc. All need to be addressed if the country wants to see a decrease in gun violence. I get frustrated when people will post that it is solely a mental illness issue, which is not the case. If we could magically cure mental illness, we will still have gun violence, although not as much. I also think the majority of Americans (including Dems) don't advocate for no guns whatsoever. A few on this board and others, often find that random tweet and run with it. I don't own a gun and most likely never will, but don't think guns should be completely outlawed. Found this also: a bit dated but interesting nonetheless: https://news.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx

Here is a site I have seen before that tracks gun violence: https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/. They define a mass shooting where 4+ people are shot iirc

False about some dems not advocating no guns.

 

[vhcat70]

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/j...d-is-dead-in-the-water-2019-08-02?mod=opinion
feel kinda bad for Trumpsters. All of the job growth under Trump has been in non Trump voting areas.

False.

 

[warrior-cat]

The majority of Americans disagree with you.

False.

 

[vhcat70]

Need to know what constitutes a “Mass” shooting? The word “Mass” implies large numbers, but I’m sure the stat applies to any shooting with more than one victim or some such nonsense.

Earlier I went somewhere (Wiki?) that defined it as 4 people being shot, killed or not.

 

[vhcat70]

False.

 

[duke4life831]

"girl" "girl" You're not believable.

What? Did I miss gender her or something? I believe Candace Owens is a woman, I may have been misinformed though. Solid retort to my post though!

 

[warrior-cat]

Such a shitty take. Why he posted that today is anyone’s guess.

Reality and truth does not fit you agenda? Do you only care about those being killed by guns? If so, what about the ones being killed everyday in gang related violence or black on black murders, or black on white murders, or white on white murders, or white on black murders.

You are and idiot.

 

[420 Bro]

I haven’t waded through this thread today because I’m feeling shitty and empty. It could be any one of us, at any time. Grocery shopping, having a drink and enjoying life, going to school, attending a concert/festival...

Innocent and immediate death at the hands of a stranger is completely ridiculous and it happens here regularly.

I don’t have a political take on this, my bros. Not gonna talk about gun control or whatever. This just sucks. It’s been raining all day. Genuinely hope you guys are safe and sound.

 

[warrior-cat]

Had to do it, it's expected and generally correct after a few minutes.

 

[420 Bro]

Reality and truth does not fit you agenda? Do you only care about those being killed by guns? If so, what about the ones being killed everyday in gang related violence or black on black murders, or black on white murders, or white on white murders, or white on black murders.

You are and idiot.

Why are you saying this?

Hope you guys are alright. Seriously. I’m not. I mean I’m physically alright, but I can’t say the same for all those innocent people who got mowed down while shopping at Wal Mart. This has to end.

 

[PhattyJ4UK]

You've caught me. I've been a liberal this entire time.

Not where I was going. Read the first sentence quoted.

I believe youre a conservative that tries to please liberals by giving a little.


Liberslism will win over due to this stance eventually.

The crazies push so far left that the halfway sane lefty policy seems reasonable, a lot of republicans have tried to seem moderate so they give in to the sane left idea and and the middle of the road is kicked another step left. Over and over and over.

 

[screwduke1]

Where a person stands on healthcare doesnt díctate their political ideology.

Agree with most of your post but not with this part. I don't know of a single conservative who supports universal healthcare. If they exist I've never met one who did anyway.

 

[Mashburned]

Why are you saying this?

Hope you guys are alright. Seriously. I’m not. I mean I’m physically alright, but I can’t say the same for all those innocent people who got mowed down while shopping at Wal Mart. This has to end.

Get off the internet and get help. Seriously. God bless you.

 

[PhattyJ4UK]

@KRJ1975

"One of the most confounding things about this board is that if you aren't all in balls deep on every single thing Trump does, it means you're a communist Muslim marxist socialist transgender shemale who hates America."


Wasnt that you going off on someone about broad brushes?

 

[warrior-cat]

“I don’t believe people should be able to own guns.”

President Barack Obama, during conversation with economist and author John Lott Jr. at the University of Chicago Law School in the 1990s

That was just one but, others believe this too and have said it.

 

[KRJ1975]

@KRJ1975

"One of the most confounding things about this board is that if you aren't all in balls deep on every single thing Trump does, it means you're a communist Muslim marxist socialist transgender shemale who hates America."


Wasnt that you going off on someone about broad brushes?

Yes. But this board is pretty whack when it comes to all in support for Trump.

There are plenty of moderate folks here, but also a ton of people who’d flock to Trump’s defense if he shot a puppy.

 

[warrior-cat]

@KRJ1975

"One of the most confounding things about this board is that if you aren't all in balls deep on every single thing Trump does, it means you're a communist Muslim marxist socialist transgender shemale who hates America."


Wasnt that you going off on someone about broad brushes?

All of the time.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Yeah I know it's hard for you guys to deal with concepts and illustrated principles.

 

[duke4life831]

Not where I was going. Read the first sentence quoted.

I believe youre a conservative that tries to please liberals by giving a little.


Liberslism will when over due to this stance eventually.

The crazies push so far left that the halfway sane lefty policy seems reasonable, a lot of republicans have tried to seem moderate so they give in to the sane left idea and and the middle of the road is kicked another step left. Over and over and over.

I honestly don't care about pleasing liberals or republicans. I honestly don't care if I piss off Plat or John with a post (just made what I thought was a pretty scathing post to Plat), but Im also not afraid to voice my opposition when Trump does things, most of the times that usually comes when he isn't conservative (his spending bills for instance), Im not afraid to say my dislike for Candace Owens on here even though I know she is very popular on the right and on this board.

I call myself a conservative because the vast majority of my view points lineup with that side. But I have view points that don't line up, that doesn't mean Im trying to please the other side, that's just my opinion. I can hate a Plat and Jamslee post, but if they say something I agree with (doesn't happen often but it does happen), Im not afraid to give their post a like and agree with them.

 

[blubo]

Sorry if this is a duplicate, but it cracks me up.

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[QUOTE="BigBlueDave, post: 8123168, member: 9042"
]Sorry if this is a duplicate, but it cracks me up.
A look into what happened during one part of the national convention of the Democratic Socialists of America in Atlanta this weekend.


I wonder if there was someone there to assist comrades who may have to go pottie? .

 

[Dionysus444]

Agree with most of your post but not with this part. I don't know of a single conservative who supports universal healthcare. If they exist I've never met one who did anyway.

Trump said he was for it and then won the election.

 

[warrior-cat]

Yes. But this board is pretty whack when it comes to all in support for Trump.

There are plenty of moderate folks here, but also a ton of people who’d flock to Trump’s defense if he shot a puppy.

I wonder how bad you guys would have been if the republican party and the mainstream media tried to unseat Obama for 2 1/2 years of his first term. Of course we will come to his aid, what was done to him was illegal and unprecedented. He did nothing to warrant this attack. It was an attack against America and our electoral system and a was borderline coup attempt.

 

[Sawnee Cat]

I wonder how bad you guys would have been if the republican party and the mainstream media tried to unseat Obama for 2 1/2 years of his first term. Of course we will come to his aid, what was done to him was illegal and unprecedented. He did nothing to warrant this attack. It was an attack against America and our electoral system and a was borderline coup attempt.

I think it was and is a coup attempt. The FBI and CIA did everything in their power to portray a hoax on America with the sole goal of trying to take away the presidency. I just pray the truth comes out but I am losing faith in our system as time drags on. The tragic thing is if and when the truth is exposed the MSM and Democrat Party will cover it up, not report it as it really is and will lie and deny truth. We can not count on them to report this honest and truthful.

 

[BigBlueDave]

Why are you saying this?

Hope you guys are alright. Seriously. I’m not. I mean I’m physically alright, but I can’t say the same for all those innocent people who got mowed down while shopping at Wal Mart. This has to end.

Get it started 420. You're wasting valuable time. You just need to petition on repealing the 2A.

Once accomplished, you can move on to banning knives.

The really progressive, first world countries are into banning knives.

 

[augustaky1]

I honestly don't care about pleasing liberals or republicans. I honestly don't care if I piss off Plat or John with a post (just made what I thought was a pretty scathing post to Plat), but Im also not afraid to voice my opposition when Trump does things, most of the times that usually comes when he isn't conservative (his spending bills for instance), Im not afraid to say my dislike for Candace Owens on here even though I know she is very popular on the right and on this board.

I call myself a conservative because the vast majority of my view points lineup with that side. But I have view points that don't line up, that doesn't mean Im trying to please the other side, that's just my opinion. I can hate a Plat and Jamslee post, but if they say something I agree with (doesn't happen often but it does happen), Im not afraid to give their post a like and agree with them.

Exactly how I feel.

Edit to add: I wish there was an Agree button as well as a Like button. I might agree with a lot of things I do not Like.

 

[BigBlueDave]

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[Gassy_Knowls]

Barak Obama caused this country to divide.

It's a shame. That guy ruined America.

 

[duke4life831]

Haha my dad just texted me this. I think this is something everyone here can laugh at.

 

[Mashburned]

Lmaooooo

That was amazing.

 

[blubo]

Haha my dad just texted me this. I think this is something everyone here can laugh at.

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[420 Bro]

Get it started 420. You're wasting valuable time. You just need to petition on repealing the 2A.

Once accomplished, you can move on to banning knives.

The really progressive, first world countries are into banning knives.

I’m actually a libertarian, but thanks bro!

 

[blubo]

Get it started 420. You're wasting valuable time. You just need to petition on repealing the 2A.
Once accomplished, you can move on to banning knives.
The really progressive, first world countries are into banning knives.

No more mumbleypeg?? .

 

[ukalumni00]

Haha my dad just texted me this. I think this is something everyone here can laugh at.

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Are these people mentally ill?

 

[blubo]

Are these people mentally ill?

...... ..duh