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POLITICAL THREAD

How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
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    Votes: 9 18.0%

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The media wants to harpoon Trump at all costs. Look for the Libertarian Party to get a lot more air time and talked about a bunch more as they conspire to draw votes away from Trump.

If this much of the establishment hates a guy then you know he has to be onto something. This all reminds me of the way they sunk Ross Perot and Ron Paul when history has clearly and absolutely proven both of them were absolutely correct. Pat Buchanan, too, for that matter.

Anyone that stands up to globalism is going to get crushed. From both parties. And that is what is unfolding now as the globalists seek to shut down one last gasp of American sovereignty.

Globalism is inevitable. We are being consumed. I just want there to be a fight. A reckoning.
 
I figure Trump is our last chance at making a stand. It doesn't matter that Trump is Trump... we're going to eventually lose anyway. Trump is just the line in the sand. The point at which the American people decided they've had enough. So here I stand with the rabble. Doomed. I wouldn't have it any other way.
 
No this country is officially finished when the millennials are in their 70-60s, and their half-assed kids are having kids.

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So referring to illegal aliens as our friends, and pledging to make America great again is bigoted? You WANT Trump to be a racist and Bigot, it makes it easier for you to vote for someone that you know is a bad politician who's gotten by on name alone.

I don't remember Trump saying Muslims needed identification, maybe he did, but all Americans have some form of Govt ID.

He did say we might need a hiatus on muslim immigration until we get a handle on the situation. I think most people agree that we are in a war on terror, the combatant in that war is militant muslims, right? Many times in our history during war times the US has put a hiatus on immigration, again nothing bigoted about that. Unless of course you think Muslim terrorists aren't targeting the West.

Trump has said over and over that legal immigrants aren't the issue, it's illegal immigrants. Entering the Country illegally is against the law, would you agree with that? The penalty for that is deportation, again, why is racist or bigoted to enforce the law? Do you think we should just leave the border wide open and let everyone in?

I haven't said a word about my own political stances or views, only what I am hearing around me.

I do think illegal immigration needs to be addressed, but i disagree with trumps plan. What is building a wall going to do? Other than make middle America feel good that something is being done while billions of dollars are wasted building and maintaining it? The cartels smuggle people over and they are good at everything. All they'll do is figure our how to smuggle people on shipping crates or on planes, if they haven't already.
 
Paul Ryan just said he's not ready to support Trump at this time and Trump responded that he is not prepared to support Paul Ryan's agenda. That is fairly well an amazing exchange in an astounding political season.
 
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Hillary's message is so pathetic right now. Whatever hack that put the "Trump is too risky" words in her mouth should be fired as that is so lame. What happened to all the great political operatives? Does she really think a guy sitting there without a job because his factory closed down and moved to Mexico gives on flip about her stupid friggen message?

She had better get on message and that message had better address trade and jobs in the rust belt instead of threatening to put coal miners out of work in Appalachia. Her message is so utterly stupid that it is no wonder she can't beat a Socialist and a TV Reality Star.

I, here on the Paddock, could put together a better message for her in 15 minutes than anything she's said this entire political campaign. I may not be able to rise to the level of saying Cruz's dad killed JFK as frankly nobody can as that insult will live forever and be whispered and laughed roundly at off-camera for the rest of history... but I could do a helluva lot better than whoever is putting words in Hillary's mouth right now.
 
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I'm not so sure the media is against Trump anymore. I think their tune is still against the republicans and they clearly aren't supporting their candidate. CNN basically has called out everyone that is a republican since Ryan said he wouldn't endorse Trump......yet, lol.

Just get this trump/Hiliary battle going please.
 
I think the media is more partisan than ever before. HOWEVER, they also are about self preservation. And for 12 months Trump coverage = ratings.

It is in the media's best interest for this race to be competitive and close, and will continue letting Trump get massive chunks of free tv time.
 
Sounds like Trump's tailor is fitting him for his own Goldman Sachs Jacket:

Republican Donald Trump named a national finance chairman for his presidential campaign on Thursday, picking an investor with little experience in campaigns but a long history of political donations, including to Trump's likely Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton.

Steven Mnuchin, a former partner at Goldman Sachs who now works in entertainment financing, is chairman and CEO of private investment firm Dune Capital Management LP. He is taking one of the first high-profile jobs in the campaign that Trump has filled.
 
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The top finance guys all worked at some bank that is hated most likely or they aren't carrying an extensive resume.

It's fair to bash it since Repubs bashed every selection on the govt finance team that all came from the big banks too. It's hard to shed that stinch of big bank.
 
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So referring to illegal aliens as our friends, and pledging to make America great again is bigoted? You WANT Trump to be a racist and Bigot, it makes it easier for you to vote for someone that you know is a bad politician who's gotten by on name alone.

I don't remember Trump saying Muslims needed identification, maybe he did, but all Americans have some form of Govt ID.

Do you think we should just leave the border wide open and let everyone in?

Maybe he thinks someone should get rid of all the white males. Wonder what our country would look like twenty years after that happened?
 
Counterpoint: wtf is say a few trillion+ more if we're already 20trillion in debt. It's clear that means nothing and is just a number to scare people like you into thinking money is real...which it ain't. It's based on nothing. Zilch. Just more man-mad bullshit to control the masses and feed the beast.
A few trillion? Yeah, that's almost irrelevant but since Obama has taken office he's added about $10 trillion to our debt... I mean a few trillion here and and there and now you're talkin bout real money lol.
 
Bill, I don't think Trump is personally racist or particularly bigoted...but I find it hard to believe that any intelligent person couldn't see that Trump is playing on those dark emotions and fears of others with his rhetoric. When you refer to a group of 10-12 million people as "rapist"...and "drug dealers"...Hey, the US has a larger % of its population in prison than just about any country on earth. Wouldn't it be just as accurate to refer to Americans as "criminals"?

The spread of islam and illegal immigration are very real issues do inspire very real and justified fear in the minds of people that want to protect our culture and our country. Name one country with a predominantly muslim population that has a culture like the traditional American culture. Trump may have zero tact, but he is the first candidate since Reagan that has had the balls to call it as it is. Yes, he is a pathetic candidate... but at least he cares solely about the welfare of the traditional American society. bamer doesn't... hillury is just as bad plus she's just plain evil.
 
The problem is that the elite and the politicians and media that prop them up pay no attention to the calm voice of the people. They just set in motion outrageously self-serving deals for their class, hunker down and wait for the mild storm to blow over and reap their benefits.

Common people may eventually come to realize that there is no respectful way to address these issues that will cause these people to budge. That leaves nothing effective to do except gather the mob with their pitchforks and axes and storm the gates (just rhetoric, in case Homeland Security - or mods - are monitoring).

Short of that, the other option is to choose a leader that is unbeholden to the elite. Someone who might actually intervene in this country's suicidal plunge, inasmuch as they can. And many can see that Trump, obnoxious as he is, just might be that leader.
Excellent post.
 
The spread of islam and illegal immigration are very real issues do inspire very real and justified fear in the minds of people that want to protect our culture and our country. Name one country with a predominantly muslim population that has a culture like the traditional American culture. Trump may have zero tact, but he is the first candidate since Reagan that has had the balls to call it as it is. Yes, he is a pathetic candidate... but at least he cares solely about the welfare of the traditional American society. bamer doesn't... hillury is just as bad plus she's just plain evil.
Nationalism is not popular so, dems use this to further their agenda. But, I say screw those who want to make us like the rest of the world. Dems would rather us be third world and them in power over prosperous and conservatives in power. Problem is, that could happen in the long run and then they would actually have to work hard for less than they have now for free. Irony?
 
No this country is officially finished when the millennials are in their 70-60s, and their half-assed kids are having kids.

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What will be ironic is they gripe about how the boomers have bankrupted the country with their unearned retirement plans, social security, etc...yet, if they have their way, they will be old just about the time their kids ...who grew up obtaining their guidance from peers via their I-phones, facebook, etc... are the voting majority and decide to eliminate programs that support the elderly.
 
The spread of islam and illegal immigration are very real issues do inspire very real and justified fear in the minds of people that want to protect our culture and our country.

deportations up, illegal entry down during obama administration

the only real american culture is black
 
The root of why good paying jobs have left is NAFTA, and the free trade agrrements that followed. True freedom in life is having a decent job, there

this schmuck built casinos and golf courses and had a tv show, and you dumbasses think he's henry ford

you know who works in hotels, right?
 
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this schmuck built casinos and golf courses and had a tv show, and you dumbasses think he's henry ford

you know who works in hotels, right?

I don't think he's Henry Ford, I think he's the candidate that may be able to actually bring manufacturing back to the states.

Jobs are the number 1 issue, or lack there of, and Hillary or any other current career politician is not going to tackle the root cause. Because they are bought and paid for, and the people that own them like the status quo.

Jobs would cure a lot of societies ills, that government and social warriors can't.

I don't know if Trump can change things, but I believe he'll try. I KNOW Hillary won't, her husband is the one that got the ball rolling down hill.

You may not like what Trump has to say, but you know where he's coming from. Who knows what Hillary actually thinks, she's a puppet that says whatever is popular to get elected.
 
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I don't think he's Henry Ford, I think he's the candidate that may be able to actually bring manufacturing back to the states.

Jobs are the number 1 issue, or lack there of, and Hillary or any other current career politician is not going to tackle the root cause. Because they are bought and paid for, and the people that own them like the status quo.

Jobs would cure a lot of societies ills, that government and social warriors can't.

I don't know if Trump can change things, but I believe he'll try. I KNOW Hillary won't, her husband is the one that got the ball rolling down hill.

You may not like what Trump has to say, but you know where he's coming from. Who knows what Hillary actually thinks, she's a puppet that says whatever is popular to get elected.
If/when manufacturing jobs come back to america, 6 months later you all will be bitching because they're unionized and the price of goods has gone up.

Kinda like you all bitch about the national debt and blame it solely on obama when 30% of it has come from two wars that have done nothing but vulcanize terrorist factions and create total unrest in an unstable region.

It's kind of poetic how you people are ignorant to the fact that these problems have been almost completely created by your party. It's ****ing stupidly poetic at an epic dumbass level.
 
I don't think he's Henry Ford, I think he's the candidate that may be able to actually bring manufacturing back to the states.

Jobs are the number 1 issue, or lack there of, and Hillary or any other current career politician is not going to tackle the root cause. Because they are bought and paid for, and the people that own them like the status quo.

Jobs would cure a lot of societies ills, that government and social warriors can't.

I don't know if Trump can change things, but I believe he'll try. I KNOW Hillary won't, her husband is the one that got the ball rolling down hill.

You may not like what Trump has to say, but you know where he's coming from. Who knows what Hillary actually thinks, she's a puppet that says whatever is popular to get elected.
Trump has flip flopped on every major position at least once. Yet somehow he's supposed to be this bastion of integrity.

Manufacturing is not coming back to the states. Sure we can improve those numbers a little but manufacturing as people like to remember from the 70s and 80's is history. If Chinese or Mexicans aren't taking your manufacturing jobs, automation is. If companies are 'forced' to manufacture in America they will just use automation to limit their labor costs.

Hell, Trump just went back on his big selling point of using his own money and will be taking PAC and donor money just like everybody else he likes to call dishonest. His words are just words to him.

Republicans elected a freakin used car salesman to run for President. Unreal. Idiocracy is moving towards documentary status with every passing day.
 
so catdaddy, do you really love hillary as a candidate? most if not all on here who consider themselves to the right of the center have fully admitted trump is far from perfect. and many have been on the side of not liking him at all but his message resonated much more so than what the establishment rolled out again. so here he is. yet hillary is the worst democratic candidate maybe ever and you lefties refuse to criticize her. you see faults in others, but don't own up to your own. so i am asking you to go on the record...do you think hillary is qualified to be president? do you think she is good for this country? is she your candidate? don't compare her to trump, just answer the questions straight up.
 
Trump only said and always said he would self fund the primary and would need help when he won the nomination. So pay attention because he didn't change on this.

So what if he changes his statement on social issues, I do to given the situation. Could careless!

He is the business guy, once he hires a political VP I'm fine with him.

Correct manufacturing will never be what it was but maybe more money is generated for companies that sent their factory work overseas for profits. Maybe Trump can create tax savings to bring overseas money back to America. Maybe Trump can find ways to charge countries in trade for our military support to balance such bad trade deficits. Maybe instead of slow down illegal immigration dependence he can minimize it while figure a way for those here to pay taxes and contribute somehow besides sendin money out of America.

See the manufacturing that saves American companies and allows stocks to sore in profits isn't bad, but the money having to be left overseas is. Our past politicians were bought by companies that knew damn well what they were doing but the politicians didn't have a clue!
 
If/when manufacturing jobs come back to america, 6 months later you all will be bitching because they're unionized and the price of goods has gone up.

Kinda like you all bitch about the national debt and blame it solely on obama when 30% of it has come from two wars that have done nothing but vulcanize terrorist factions and create total unrest in an unstable region.

It's kind of poetic how you people are ignorant to the fact that these problems have been almost completely created by your party. It's ****ing stupidly poetic at an epic dumbass level.
Yeah, no one blamed Bush for anything. You people are as blind as you are dumb. Never taking responsibility for your contributions (which were/are major) to the current problems we are now experiencing. Pathetic.
 
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