POLITICAL THREAD
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You just said socialism is getting back what you pay in taxes, but ignore that half the country already, either through deductions or lack of income, doesn't pay taxes.
Also, the second paragraph from one your links:
So they don't get SSI or SNAP, but do get Medicaid and a different type of free food program.
63% of illegal immigrant households receive at least one type of welfare program, compared to 35% of native households
You also ignore that illegal parents can use their anchor babies to apply for SNAP and SSI
In summation, you are wrong and post terrible memes and don't know what socialism is. Hope that helps!
You have only been here about a week or so, but have you had any conversations with Republicans about why they stick by him?Well, in the Republican Party, there’s a hostage situation going on. There are a lot of Republicans that know what the right thing to do is — not just on impeachment but on a wide range of issues — and they refuse to speak up.
Because it would be political suicide? Because to them, yeah, they can’t do it. To me, it’s an unacceptable position, because we’re not in the realm of politics anymore. These are not questions of politics. These are questions of society. These are questions of equal treatment. These are questions of civil rights.
Wouldn’t you rather have Republicans in office who know what the right thing is behind closed doors versus those people speaking up and losing their seats to people who are truly in agreement with Trump? The problem is that if they vote the same way, what does it matter? I don’t care what’s in your heart if how you are voting is the same as someone who is actually racist. At the end of the day, they think that their intentions are gonna save them, but the actual decisions you make matter. I am tired of people saying, “I’m gonna vote the same way as bigots, but I don’t share the ideology of bigots.” Well, you share the action and the agenda of bigots. We need to hold that accountable.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...XUpbsFlcajtcYOOWKdmSYlUk-w1TTNS14ANmAMTfvr60w
Because it would be political suicide? Because to them, yeah, they can’t do it. To me, it’s an unacceptable position, because we’re not in the realm of politics anymore. These are not questions of politics. These are questions of society. These are questions of equal treatment. These are questions of civil rights.
Wouldn’t you rather have Republicans in office who know what the right thing is behind closed doors versus those people speaking up and losing their seats to people who are truly in agreement with Trump? The problem is that if they vote the same way, what does it matter? I don’t care what’s in your heart if how you are voting is the same as someone who is actually racist. At the end of the day, they think that their intentions are gonna save them, but the actual decisions you make matter. I am tired of people saying, “I’m gonna vote the same way as bigots, but I don’t share the ideology of bigots.” Well, you share the action and the agenda of bigots. We need to hold that accountable.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...XUpbsFlcajtcYOOWKdmSYlUk-w1TTNS14ANmAMTfvr60w
No. It's YOU getting what I paid for with MY taxes.
https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...voting-rights-act-for-her-2016-loss/23683400/
Nothing makes me want to puke as much as when I see some Godless democrat getting up in a black church and campaigning for whatever. I guess so much for the separation of church & state.
Nothing makes me want to puke as much as when I see some Godless democrat getting up in a black church and campaigning for whatever. I guess so much for the separation of church & state.
They're not being cut, but you wouldn't understand that.
Algore and Hillary with their black accents were the two who started this crap. And the blacks ate it up giving them 95% of their votes. Suckers
I think it’s wrong to say that what I’m proposing is polarizing the country. What we are seeing now is a ruling class of corporations and a very small elite that have captured government. The Koch brothers own every Republican in the Senate. They own ’em. They don’t cast a vote unless their sugar daddies tell ’em what to do. But 70 percent of Americans believe in Medicare for all. Ninety percent of Americans believe we need to get money out of politics. Eighty-something [percent] believe that climate change is a real, systemic and urgent problem. Sixty-seven percent of Americans believe that immigrants are a positive force in the United States of America. I believe that I’m fighting for the American consensus. AOC
Who knew Levi was really AOC.
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hahaha...the first line in one of the articles literally says..."Generally no..."...GENERALLY...
Then this whopper in one of the other articles you reference:
"Of course, some immigrants who are here without legal permission do end up receiving Social Security and other benefits, through bureaucratic mistakes or through deliberate fraud. The Government Accountability Office has even called this a “serious problem,” though the GAO also says that “the full extent of benefit fraud is unknown.”
Who gives a rip what the official rule is about who gets entitlements and healthcare. Maybe you haven't been paying attention to all the libs who have been pushing healthcare for ALL including illegal immigrants as well as many other cradle to grave social entitlements. Education for all, UBI, and on and on...
I know somebody who worked at a bank in California for years way back in the day before all this shit was a real hot issue. They told me a story about how every month people without any valid ID would come in, cash gov. checks that were more than what this person was getting paid working at the bank with a college education.
You can point to all the official "rules" and literature you want. We all know damn good and well what happens on the down low.
I'm pretty sure there's a rule somewhere that says you have to go through a procedure to become a citizen in order to permanently live here. I'm pretty sure there's a rule that says once your green card expires you have to re-up or leave and come back. I'm pretty sure there's a rule that says you get 1 vote, that dead people can't vote...we all see how those are working out...
Brian Leiter
Liberal democratic societies have certain values, and they’re mostly good. But the problem is having a capitalist economic system that pollutes the public domain and presents all sorts of obstacles to the intelligent expression and regulation of speech.
Under capitalism, at least the sort of capitalism we have now, the ruling class completely distorts our political process and the laws that get enacted. Until we do something about that, we’re not going to be in any position to hope that regulation of speech, let alone other aspects of law, will actually be conducive to human well-being.
Liberal democratic societies have certain values, and they’re mostly good. But the problem is having a capitalist economic system that pollutes the public domain and presents all sorts of obstacles to the intelligent expression and regulation of speech.
Under capitalism, at least the sort of capitalism we have now, the ruling class completely distorts our political process and the laws that get enacted. Until we do something about that, we’re not going to be in any position to hope that regulation of speech, let alone other aspects of law, will actually be conducive to human well-being.
Brian Leiter
It’s important to recognize that most of what any of us believe about the world depends on intermediaries, people who guide us as to what we ought to believe because it’s true. I believe in evolution by natural selection, but not because I did all the experiments in the lab.
The big crisis of the internet era is that it has eliminated a lot of the traditional intermediaries, such as the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal or PBS or the BBC and so on. Those old intermediaries weren’t perfect, but they were better than what we have now. So I think we need better intermediaries that help people to sort out the world.
But again, I don’t anticipate a law being passed that shuts down Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh — we’re stuck with them. Which means we’re stuck with a public sphere filled with nonsense. So the short answer is that we’re screwed.
I think a great deal of this would not be problematic if people simply read more---in other words were more educated---better informed, less trained.
It’s important to recognize that most of what any of us believe about the world depends on intermediaries, people who guide us as to what we ought to believe because it’s true. I believe in evolution by natural selection, but not because I did all the experiments in the lab.
The big crisis of the internet era is that it has eliminated a lot of the traditional intermediaries, such as the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal or PBS or the BBC and so on. Those old intermediaries weren’t perfect, but they were better than what we have now. So I think we need better intermediaries that help people to sort out the world.
But again, I don’t anticipate a law being passed that shuts down Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh — we’re stuck with them. Which means we’re stuck with a public sphere filled with nonsense. So the short answer is that we’re screwed.
I think a great deal of this would not be problematic if people simply read more---in other words were more educated---better informed, less trained.
Levi wants people like himself to regulate what you can legally say. lol
Why will no one support these very reasonable propositions?!?!?
Hillary just needs to shut up and go away. Talk about a "manufactured crisis"
I would pay Levi's mom and dad hundreds of dollars to cut off his internet for a few months. I'm sure they have no idea of his embarrassing activities.
Needs to be more of this all the way around...both sides of the isle and all points in between. If a program is good for the country then back it, support it, fund it. Doesn't matter who comes up with the idea or who gives a dying program a kick in the nads to jump start it back to life. And if it sucks...then kick it to the curb.
Kudos to Stewart...who I'm sure otherwise mostly hates Trump.
ROFLMAO!! A Rolling Stone Interview with AOC? seriously? We're supposed to read that and take it seriously?
Yeah, lib/dims don't distort anything by denying voter ID so illegals can vote. SMH at any lib/dim complaining about the other party using voter fraud.
I would have paid his parents hundreds of dollars if they would have aborted him.
Anyone that is ok with the president getting a bj IN THE OVAL OFFICE, is just too stupid to bother with!
LOL.....and a 28 year old mentally challenged bartender shall lead them.
Jesse KellyVerified account@JesseKellyDC
Conservatives talk too much about the dollar cost of socialism. Socialism isn't evil because it's expensive. It's evil because it strips away the rights of the individual and makes him part of a collective controlled by a corrupt central government.
Conservatives talk too much about the dollar cost of socialism. Socialism isn't evil because it's expensive. It's evil because it strips away the rights of the individual and makes him part of a collective controlled by a corrupt central government.
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anon_l8pbkn96tg3j6
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According to leftists in 2019, an intern can't actually consent to blowing the leader of the free world because of the power discrepancy... so there's that.
This is insane to watch. Hillary claims democracy is in danger while backing unelected FBI investigator over fairly elected Trump. We live in the stranger things upside-down.
This is insane to watch. Hillary claims democracy is in danger while backing unelected FBI investigator over fairly elected Trump. We live in the stranger things upside-down.
Interesting he only suggests shutting down Limbaugh and Hannity. That is everything in a nice little nutshell. "Shut down people on the right, they're dangerous and filling the air with nonsense..." that is an outright advocation of one school of thought...exactly what failing states do...
I'll agree with reading more though.
Read more history. Read what has worked, what hasn't. What countries have people left and what countries are people moving to?
What countries rely on other countries for help across all sorts of areas, and which countries are doing the providing?
The American way isn't perfect but it is the best to date. Capitalism has flaws but it works good enough to where folks can even entertain the notion of Socialism.
We are still a relatively young country/culture/society in terms of world history. In a couple of hundred years, we have done more than what other countries/cultures/systems have been able to do in thousands of years.
Again, no reasonable person is against government providing more for free or relatively inexpensive. However, simple math dictates that to provide more affordable healthcare, or xyz social benefits, the money has to come from somewhere and cannot possibly or fairly be offered to anyone other than tax paying citizens.
Libs have lots of great ideas. Never are those ideas followed with an accounting of which pots will be drawn from to pay for new pots.
"Cut the military"...yeah, great idea...the one damn entitlement that indiscriminately provides protection for all regardless of income or citizenship status, and a great way to get a government job that libs think should be provided to all...get paid, get healthcare, get an education, get vacations, get discounts out in the civilian world...Don't need a green new deal to offer lots of government work opportunities.
There is so much nonsense spewed in this post it's almost too comical to comment on. You basically just outed yourself as a lemming to the MSM with this post. So much for your being someone who considers themselves a "free thinker".
New York PostVerified account@nypost
Ocasio-Cortez responds to carbon footprint exposé: I'm just 'living in the world' https://nyp.st/2TqkxBx
AKA....do as I say not as I do. Typical of socialist in positions of power. They live in luxury while their subjects live in poverty.
Ocasio-Cortez responds to carbon footprint exposé: I'm just 'living in the world' https://nyp.st/2TqkxBx
AKA....do as I say not as I do. Typical of socialist in positions of power. They live in luxury while their subjects live in poverty.
One was factual and lied about.
The other was a series of lies which is being made to look factual.
Got anything else?
Quote from Greenpeace Co-Founder about Ocasio-Cortez....
@AOC
Pompous little twit. You don’t have a plan to grow food for 8 billion people without fossil fuels, or get food into the cities. Horses? If fossil fuels were banned every tree in the world would be cut down for fuel for cooking and heating. You would bring about mass death.— Patrick Moore (@EcoSenseNow) March 3, 2019
@AOC
Pompous little twit. You don’t have a plan to grow food for 8 billion people without fossil fuels, or get food into the cities. Horses? If fossil fuels were banned every tree in the world would be cut down for fuel for cooking and heating. You would bring about mass death.— Patrick Moore (@EcoSenseNow) March 3, 2019
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You guys really should stop feeding the troll: block the idiots and it will make this a much nicer place lol.
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anon_l8pbkn96tg3j6
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Conservatives want to be judged by their actions. Liberals want to be judged by their words.
Blocked him yesterday after that 24 hour barrage of absolute awfulness.
As much as they piss me off with their ignorance, at least Plat, Fuzz, Boston, and the other few libs in here typically express their opinions without relying on fake memes (curious - do the libs in this thread support doxing the creators of these memes so we can send them to prison for attempting to influence the American population with obvious false and fake information?).
