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Fair enough but I don't really agree that its practiced here in the states.

You can see right now in Europe what giving the government more control is doing. Practicing socialism always leads to communism even if takes a long time to get there.

So my question is why would you want to give the government more control when they already do a lousy job with the certain areas that they are in control of?
If you don't think it's practiced here in the US then you simply don't understand what "it" is.

So what is it in Europe that we are seeing?

On what basis can you support your claim that "practicing socialism always leads to communism"? The first communist country was created in 1917 and is no longer communist. There are currently only 5 communist countries in the world...China, North Korea, Vietnam, Laos and Cuba. None of those countries went from socialism (democratic or otherwise) to communism.
 
What is the difference between say...Canada and the old USSR?

Socialism can exist in democracies or dictatorships.
Democratic socialism is practiced in Canada, Great Britain, France, Germany, Sweden, Japan, Australia...just to name a few.

Socialism is also practiced in the United States. We have public schools, Social Security, water, electric power, Medicare, police and fire protection...anything publicly funded/administered is socialist.

There is a false narrative that socialism = communism, that it calls for an equal distribution of wealth, etc. Nothing could be farther from the truth.
Then what do you call your Lib bs that wants greater taxation to redistribute wealth?
 
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If you don't think it's practiced here in the US then you simply don't understand what "it" is.

So what is it in Europe that we are seeing?

On what basis can you support your claim that "practicing socialism always leads to communism"? The first communist country was created in 1917 and is no longer communist. There are currently only 5 communist countries in the world...China, North Korea, Vietnam, Laos and Cuba. None of those countries went from socialism (democratic or otherwise) to communism.
Doesn't matter what they call themselves, but if they are dictatorships that control production, their communist. Venezuela fits that perfectly.
 
Then what do you call your Lib bs that wants greater taxation to redistribute wealth?
I don't know any "Libs" that want greater taxation to redistribute wealth. Seeing that we are running a near $1Trillion deficit it think it is obvious that we need either a trillion dollars of additional tax revenue, a trillion less spending or some of both.
 
I don't know any "Libs" that want greater taxation to redistribute wealth.


Says the guy who wants to limit the generational transfer of wealth to $5-10 million.

No, certainly no libs want greater taxation to redistribute wealth.
 
I don't know any "Libs" that want greater taxation to redistribute wealth. Seeing that we are running a near $1Trillion deficit it think it is obvious that we need either a trillion dollars of additional tax revenue, a trillion less spending or some of both.


Lol. You were pushing greater death tax to redistribute wealth just last week you twit.

And youre most definitely a lib
 
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If you don't think it's practiced here in the US then you simply don't understand what "it" is.

So what is it in Europe that we are seeing?

On what basis can you support your claim that "practicing socialism always leads to communism"? The first communist country was created in 1917 and is no longer communist. There are currently only 5 communist countries in the world...China, North Korea, Vietnam, Laos and Cuba. None of those countries went from socialism (democratic or otherwise) to communism.

"It" is just government control. Letting the government control every aspect of our lives. I think you trust the government to much.

In Europe right now I'd get thrown in jail for calling a Muslim a donkey ****er.

I don't follow the history of communism to much but it's never been successful. Europe and Canada are slowly taking the rights away from their people. They may not go full communist but their pushing a dangerous agenda.
 
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Doesn't matter what they call themselves, but if they are dictatorships that control production, their communist. Venezuela fits that perfectly.
they're not their.

Dude, Nazi Germany was a dictatorship that controlled production and was far from being communist...they treated communist the same way they treated Jews.
 
"It" is just government control. Letting the government control every aspect of our lives. I think you trust the government to much.

In Europe right now I'd get thrown in jail for calling a Muslim a donkey ****er.

I don't follow the history of communism to much but it's never been successful. Europe and Canada are slowly taking the rights away from their people. They may not go full communist but their pushing a dangerous agenda.
Good lord man, where are you reading/hearing this shit? Most Europeans have more, not fewer rights than Americans. They have stricter gun laws and that's about it.

You're right, communism, at least Soviet style communism hasn't been successful and I'm not aware of anyone advocating for it outside of a tiny fringe minority.

Again I will ask you to support your claim that Europe and Canada are taking away people's rights.

You've made several outlandish claims with zero ability to back any of it with factual information.
 
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Something curious about people like Levi (and there are numerous just like him/her):

What do they get out of intentionally using lies trying to trick uninformed people?

It must be something. We aren't dealing with uninformed people. Because most every time you can tell they know what they're saying is dishonest. You can tell how they dodge issues and when they lie. So they clearly know better.

Are they paid trolls? That's certainly possible.

Are they truly doing it trying to help the "team"? Have something other than money to gain?
The working class and many blacks have figured out their propaganda which is why they are focusing so hard on poor immigrants and felon voting.
 
[laughing] This might as well be one those glittery "PASS THIS ON AND DEWANE ROCK JHONSTON WILL DONATE $8 MILLON DOLLARS TO YOUR TOWN IF U DONT YOU WILL BE CURSED FOR EVER" posts you see on facebook pages of senile spinsters or possible serial killers.

I would say levi has a sense of humor and is posting these ironically, but his post history indicates he's far too ignorant to do that.
 
they're not their.

Dude, Nazi Germany was a dictatorship that controlled production and was far from being communist...they treated communist the same way they treated Jews.
yeah, the guys that slaughtered 10m were going to have a free and open govt if he succeeded in his expansion.
 
Fair enough but I don't really agree that its practiced here in the states.

You can see right now in Europe what giving the government more control is doing. Practicing socialism always leads to communism even if takes a long time to get there.

So my question is why would you want to give the government more control when they already do a lousy job with the certain areas that they are in control of?
You don't have to agree with facts. The US has dozens of "socialist" programs that have been running for many decades & some hundreds of years. Sweden is always labeled as one the most socialist developed countries and has managed to avoid communism for 700 years. Capitalism has to be kept in check because humans(especially Americans) are to greedy to do what is good for the long term health of their country.

Is the government lousy at running the military? police? building massive highway systems,? spying on everyone? They used to be good at giant infrastructure projects, education, power grid, & other things. But now we have let everything become political so every program has to be flip flopped every few years to make the new party in power happy.
 
Good lord man, where are you reading/hearing this shit? Most Europeans have more, not fewer rights than Americans. They have stricter gun laws and that's about it.

You're right, communism, at least Soviet style communism hasn't been successful and I'm not aware of anyone advocating for it outside of a tiny fringe minority.

Again I will ask you to support your claim that Europe and Canada are taking away people's rights.

You've made several outlandish claims with zero ability to back any of it with factual information.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...e-a-day-in-fight-against-web-trolls-b8nkpgp2d

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2017/07...with-hate-crime-over-alleged-online-comments/

Were gonna agree to disagree on this subject.

Since you seem to know so much about socialism then explain it. Compare it to capitalism and explain why you think it's more efficient.

I might be posting some outlandish shit but I'm sleep deprived and still half drunk from last night.
 
The federal government is one of the most corrupt, bloated, inefficient, wasteful organizations on this planet.

If you want to give them more power, you are a lunatic fringe idiot and need to move to one of your favorite socialist shitholes and stop trying to take America down the path to ruin.
 
You don't have to agree with facts. The US has dozens of "socialist" programs that have been running for many decades & some hundreds of years. Sweden is always labeled as one the most socialist developed countries and has managed to avoid communism for 700 years. Capitalism has to be kept in check because humans(especially Americans) are to greedy to do what is good for the long term health of their country.

Is the government lousy at running the military? police? building massive highway systems,? spying on everyone? They used to be good at giant infrastructure projects, education, power grid, & other things. But now we have let everything become political so every program has to be flip flopped every few years to make the new party in power happy.

Yea I don't agree with anything you said besides the government being lousy. I guess i just trust myself more than the government.
 
If the leaders of the Democratic party don't soon start calling these people out and getting control back, then yes, civil war is right around the corner.
In a way its irony that leftists call Trump Hitler while at the same time their stupid rioting and violence may cause Marshall Law. Which would give Trump lots of power.
 
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The federal government is one of the most corrupt, bloated, inefficient, wasteful organizations on this planet.

If you want to give them more power, you are a lunatic fringe idiot and need to move to one of your favorite socialist shitholes and stop trying to take America down the path to ruin.
that federal government created a military & economic policy that allowed the US to become the most powerful country in the world. So your saying we should have kept a weak government and become a bigger Mexico?
 
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