POLITICAL THREAD

[DwayneMeighan]

Maybe you are but I am not. Look up for yourself the founding fathers discussions about state militias as an ALTERNATIVE to a federal standing army that they were firmly against.


Glad you brought up Waco. The Branch Davidians at Mt Carmel had LOTS of guns, and how did they fare against our tyrannical government? SPOILER ALERT: It didn't end well. The government had tanks.

I didn't write any of that. Neither of those quotes are mine. If you're going to quote me don't change the text of what I actually wrote.

 

[screwduke1]

Libs are gonna hate the Roseanne reboot. I wonder how long it takes before ABC trashes the show like they did Last Man Standing.

 

[Dionysus444]

And Dionysus has the gall to ask what I meant when I said liberals went left to the point of insanity.

Wrong again friend. That was @bkingUK. Yall conservatives have a really tenuous relationship with facts.

 

[screwduke1]

 

[BernieSadori]

I had to pass a background check to buy my guns. That's a regulation. I will now declare myself as a militia of one. We good?

Honestly, if anything needs to be banned it's the vibrating dildos. Those suckers are rattling liberals teeth to the point of brain damage.

 

[DwayneMeighan]

Glad you brought up Waco. The Branch Davidians at Mt Carmel had LOTS of guns, and how did they fare against our tyrannical government? SPOILER ALERT: It didn't end well. The government had tanks.

Not to mention this is dumb. That wasn't actual tyranny. Quite a stretch. When you have to go to those lengths to try to prove a point you've lost all credibility.

This is America not Venezuela. We understand the importance of freedom and liberty and we know it's worth dying for to preserve. If a true tyrannical government ever takes hold and tries to rule as a dictatorship do you honestly think the majority of the American military, LEO etc is going to help the government oppress and murder their friends, family and fellow Americans? Or will they take up arms with their fellow Americans and fight for freedom and liberty against the government? We both know the answer.

 

[warrior-cat]

There is already a shitload of restrictions to the 2nd amendment so saying that adding any more is unconstitutional is a pretty weak argument. The 2nd amendment was unfortunately very poorly written so it's completely up to federal courts to decide how far to allow the restrictions to go. The right to bear arms already doesn't mean any arms being produced. Because of this we just go back and forth over small meaningless restrictions depending on which party has power. So much energy is wasted on guns and abortion, 2 items that are so trivial to the countries long term health. We already have plenty of guns and we also have a very healthy population for available land & resources so less babies right now is not a bad thing, we don't want to become India. We should be focused on companies and people amassing a destabilizing amount of wealth and power and abusing the american people to get both. or focused on balancing the federal spending and paying off our massive debt. or focused on getting the **** out of the middle east and helping europe block off the flow of refugees before it becomes a 2nd middle east. or focused on bitch slapping the shit out of Putin before he pushes the eastern europe block to war. or focused on refilling the highway fund so we can update our deteriorating infrastructure to meet rapidly increasing demand.

Give an inch take a mile continues to be you moronic liberals mantra. Good luck going forward as we kick your asses.

 

[screwduke1]

 

[Mash 2.4]

Today's posts really have me concerned about this real life Bond movie that's playing out, where Warren Buffet buys a nuclear bomb and destroys the country. All because of that damned ole 2nd amendment.

 

[Dionysus444]

Not to mention this is dumb. That wasn't actual tyranny. Quite a stretch. When you have to go to those lengths to try to prove a point you've lost all credibility.

This is America not Venezuela. We understand the importance of freedom and liberty and we know it's worth dying for to preserve. If a true tyrannical government ever takes hold and tries to rule as a dictatorship do you honestly think the majority of the American military, LEO etc is going to help the government oppress and murder their friends, family and fellow Americans? Or will they take up arms with their fellow Americans and fight for freedom and liberty against the government? We both know the answer.

So your argument is that the government using tanks against its own populace at Waco wasn't tyrannical, but if the government did become tyrannical they would what? Not use tanks?

 

[warrior-cat]

@cardkilla asked a simple question:

And your equally simple response was this:

I think you need to quit calling other people crazy and turn that lens inward. How many people if you walked up to them on the street would agree with the statement, "The 2nd Amendment guarantees me the constitutional right to own a nuclear weapon."?

I used to be against totally automatic weapon ownership by civilians but, morons like you have changed my mind. Thank you for your proving the point that the left does not understand and will try to use every ridiculous angle to take our guns. Try it punk boy!

 

[WKBlu]

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[screwduke1]

 

[CastleRubric]

So - take a good hard look at Europe and now South Africa and really THINK about some of the things that are happening there

Most of the nations have unarmed citizens that are facing increasingly violent Islamic immigrants -- and, frequently, a government that's ready to send them to prison for saying bad words on the internet or homeschooling their kids treating bacon too close to a Mohammedan

Gang rapes of under age girls is happening - and it's happening at a damned disturbing frequency

England - Muslim men in their 30's and 40's gang rape girls in their teens
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/...cted-non-muslim-girls-to-unimaginable-cruelty

France - Elderly Jewish concentration camp survivor - stabbed 11 times and set on fiery by Muslim neighbor whom "she knew well"
(apparently not)
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/...neighbor-she-knew-well-cops-search-for-motive

France - Muslim dickhead kills three in a supermarket was a KNOWN 'dangers to national security' .... but not really "TRACKED" and stuff....
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/...to-national-security-wasnt-under-surveillance

When it gets to the point that you are too afraid to leave your house at night
or
You don't feel safe when gangs are actively stalking your neighborhood
and
you KNOW that your own government will ignore your pleas for help (sometimes even BLAME YOU).....

Then you're either SUICIDAL,, STUPID or a brainwashed self-loathing Cuck if you aren't seeing the situation for what it is -- and preparing to defend yourself and your family

Take a look at South Africa -- you may have to do a little work to get the infuriation but the communist revolution there features race agitation as their vanguard call to action.....a lot like what we've seen in the US

Thug leader Malema tells white farmers to leave SA


Mother shot and raped in front of children
https://southafricatoday.net/south-...raped-in-front-of-wire-tied-children-hackney/

Elderly couple have home broken into - man's skull crushed with crowbar
https://southafricatoday.net/south-...s-tied-up-bludgeoned-bushy-park-smallholding/

Farmer tied up / repeatedly stabbed
https://southafricatoday.net/south-...savagely-stabbed-two-suspects-sought-roedtan/

and here's a funny thing from Sweden
the bad guys have weapons that are outlawed ANYWAY
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/03/world/europe/sweden-crime-immigration-hand-grenades.html


.........you think some of them wished they had been armed?
you think a movement -- with this political climate - would stop at removing "assault weapons* ??

Make no mistake - there are politicians here who would turn their heads as you and your family are slaughtered for whatever twisted rationale they posses in their sick f'ing minds.....

This isn't business as normal anymore

You are seeing an active revolution against this nation start to pick up steam
And there's more than a few 'useful idiots' who are being directed to terrorize, intimidate and oppress anyone who doesn't convert to their revolutionary mindset

If you are former military or police / firefighter and haven't joined Oath keepers.....YOU NEED TO

https://www.oathkeepers.org

Get involved and communicate with like minded / sane people

Promote peace and help each other -- but be ready to take a DAMN STAND and fight what's coming

 

[warrior-cat]

you forget the well regulated part. so as long as the government allows you to have a BB gun your right to bear arms isn't infringed. not infringed doesn't mean as much as you want and anything you want. It just means you have to have access to at least some kind of "arms". The amendment should have been more specific on the militias and on how far they wanted "shall not be infringed" to go. did they want the populace to have cannons or just muskets? did they want the militias to be what has now turned into the national guard? that would give our current society a better framework to work with.

Bear arms idiot. Arms could be anything that helps the people defend themselves.

 

[screwduke1]

You are late, look at top of page

I missed it somehow lol. Sometimes I skim pages a bit too much and miss something.

 

[Bill Cosby]

You guys are all looking in the wrong direction anyway. Does Obama still have that internet kill switch? Guns aren't going to do shit for fighting tyranny once they just turn our internet off.

And people will gladly surrender their mass produced affordable suitcase nukes once the government threatens to release every detail of their internet search history.

 

[santamaria78]

So - take a good hard look at Europe and now South Africa and really THINK about some of the things that are happening there

Most of the nations have unarmed citizens that are facing increasingly violent Islamic immigrants -- and, frequently, a government that's ready to send them to prison for saying bad words on the internet or homeschooling their kids treating bacon too close to a Mohammedan

Gang rapes of under age girls is happening - and it's happening at a damned disturbing frequency

England - Muslim men in their 30's and 40's gang rape girls in their teens
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/...cted-non-muslim-girls-to-unimaginable-cruelty

France - Elderly Jewish concentration camp survivor - stabbed 11 times and set on fiery by Muslim neighbor whom "she knew well"
(apparently not)
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/...neighbor-she-knew-well-cops-search-for-motive

France - Muslim dickhead kills three in a supermarket was a KNOWN 'dangers to national security' .... but not really "TRACKED" and stuff....
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/...to-national-security-wasnt-under-surveillance

When it gets to the point that you are too afraid to leave your house at night
or
You don't feel safe when gangs are actively stalking your neighborhood
and
you KNOW that your own government will ignore your pleas for help (sometimes even BLAME YOU).....

Then you're either SUICIDAL,, STUPID or a brainwashed self-loathing Cuck if you aren't seeing the situation for what it is -- and preparing to defend yourself and your family

Take a look at South Africa -- you may have to do a little work to get the infuriation but the communist revolution there features race agitation as their vanguard call to action.....a lot like what we've seen in the US

Thug leader Malema tells white farmers to leave SA

View embedded media

Mother shot and raped in front of children
https://southafricatoday.net/south-...raped-in-front-of-wire-tied-children-hackney/

Elderly couple have home broken into - man's skull crushed with crowbar
https://southafricatoday.net/south-...s-tied-up-bludgeoned-bushy-park-smallholding/

Farmer tied up / repeatedly stabbed
https://southafricatoday.net/south-...savagely-stabbed-two-suspects-sought-roedtan/

and here's a funny thing from Sweden
the bad guys have weapons that are outlawed ANYWAY
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/03/world/europe/sweden-crime-immigration-hand-grenades.html


.........you think some of them wished they had been armed?
you think a movement -- with this political climate - would stop at removing "assault weapons* ??

Make no mistake - there are politicians here who would turn their heads as you and your family are slaughtered for whatever twisted rationale they posses in their sick f'ing minds.....

This isn't business as normal anymore

You are seeing an active revolution against this nation start to pick up steam
And there's more than a few 'useful idiots' who are being directed to terrorize, intimidate and oppress anyone who doesn't convert to their revolutionary mindset

If you are former military or police / firefighter and haven't joined Oath keepers.....YOU NEED TO

https://www.oathkeepers.org

Get involved and communicate with like minded / sane people

Promote peace and help each other -- but be ready to take a DAMN STAND and fight what's coming

this is what I've been waiting for

 

[WKBlu]

I missed it somehow lol. Sometimes I skim pages a bit too much and miss something.

Step up your game Screw

 

[screwduke1]

That should work.

 

[Dionysus444]

I used to be against totally automatic weapon ownership by civilians but, morons like you have changed my mind. Thank you for your proving the point that the left does not understand and will try to use every ridiculous angle to take our guns. Try it punk boy!

See you don't agree with that statement either obviously. Because it's patently absurd. The point of mentioning nukes is that basically everyone agrees the 2nd Amendment doesn't guarantee you a constitutional right to a personal nuke. So that means the line of "bearing arms" falls somewhere between a flintlock and nuke. Where that line falls is up to us as a society to determine.

 

[WKBlu]

 

[warrior-cat]

I think we should have an amendment to regulate these left wing nut jobs on this website and the rest of this country. Absolute lunatics. But hey they did go to college, so they are smarter than everyone else.

Jesus, Bill C just destroyed that whole argument.

Why stop at nukes. Let's ban the 2ndA because somebody might buy a Death Star and start blowing up planets.

Willie, join me and together we will rule the universe. Willie, I am you father.

 

[screwduke1]

The liberal stupidity in this thread is off the charts the last 5 pages or so. Sheesh...wanted to reply to a few posts but its hard to reply to such stupid shit.

 

[CatsFanGG24]

it was pretty funny at work last night to hear from my super conservative buddies that "some liberal Obama Justice is now trying to pass an amendment to take away our guns". Then i had to inform them that Stevens is a retired justice that was a Navy WWII vet and then a conservative federal judge appointed by a Republican President, approved unanimously, and then a conservative Justice appointed by a Republican President, approved unanimously.

Weird. That op-ed looks like it was published this morning...?

 

[warrior-cat]

I had to pass a background check to buy my guns. That's a regulation. I will now declare myself as a militia of one. We good?

Honestly, if anything needs to be banned it's the vibrating dildos. Those suckers are rattling liberals teeth to the point of brain damage.

Not true, they had implants and their teeth are retractable, just ask Killa his are top of the line. Brain damage is inherent in liberals from the day they swear an oath to destroy America.

 

[screwduke1]

Weird. That op-ed looks like it was published this morning...?

It was lol. Guess platinum somehow read it a day in advance. Isn't that something?

 

[WKBlu]

So - take a good hard look at Europe and now South Africa and really THINK about some of the things that are happening there

Most of the nations have unarmed citizens that are facing increasingly violent Islamic immigrants -- and, frequently, a government that's ready to send them to prison for saying bad words on the internet or homeschooling their kids treating bacon too close to a Mohammedan

Gang rapes of under age girls is happening - and it's happening at a damned disturbing frequency

England - Muslim men in their 30's and 40's gang rape girls in their teens
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/...cted-non-muslim-girls-to-unimaginable-cruelty

France - Elderly Jewish concentration camp survivor - stabbed 11 times and set on fiery by Muslim neighbor whom "she knew well"
(apparently not)
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/...neighbor-she-knew-well-cops-search-for-motive

France - Muslim dickhead kills three in a supermarket was a KNOWN 'dangers to national security' .... but not really "TRACKED" and stuff....
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/...to-national-security-wasnt-under-surveillance

When it gets to the point that you are too afraid to leave your house at night
or
You don't feel safe when gangs are actively stalking your neighborhood
and
you KNOW that your own government will ignore your pleas for help (sometimes even BLAME YOU).....

Then you're either SUICIDAL,, STUPID or a brainwashed self-loathing Cuck if you aren't seeing the situation for what it is -- and preparing to defend yourself and your family

Take a look at South Africa -- you may have to do a little work to get the infuriation but the communist revolution there features race agitation as their vanguard call to action.....a lot like what we've seen in the US

Thug leader Malema tells white farmers to leave SA

View embedded media

Mother shot and raped in front of children
https://southafricatoday.net/south-...raped-in-front-of-wire-tied-children-hackney/

Elderly couple have home broken into - man's skull crushed with crowbar
https://southafricatoday.net/south-...s-tied-up-bludgeoned-bushy-park-smallholding/

Farmer tied up / repeatedly stabbed
https://southafricatoday.net/south-...savagely-stabbed-two-suspects-sought-roedtan/

and here's a funny thing from Sweden
the bad guys have weapons that are outlawed ANYWAY
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/03/world/europe/sweden-crime-immigration-hand-grenades.html


.........you think some of them wished they had been armed?
you think a movement -- with this political climate - would stop at removing "assault weapons* ??

Make no mistake - there are politicians here who would turn their heads as you and your family are slaughtered for whatever twisted rationale they posses in their sick f'ing minds.....

This isn't business as normal anymore

You are seeing an active revolution against this nation start to pick up steam
And there's more than a few 'useful idiots' who are being directed to terrorize, intimidate and oppress anyone who doesn't convert to their revolutionary mindset

If you are former military or police / firefighter and haven't joined Oath keepers.....YOU NEED TO

https://www.oathkeepers.org

Get involved and communicate with like minded / sane people

Promote peace and help each other -- but be ready to take a DAMN STAND and fight what's coming

Castle: We interrupt your usual anti-communism program...Islam also sucks.

 

[screwduke1]

 

[Dionysus444]

So - yes

Nuclear weapons are covered by FAR / DFAR / ITAR / Service-Specific terms-conditions (other categories as well) and their components are procured through authorized agents that have been vetted quite well

Their components are procured from authorize / vetted suppliers who have tons of regulations flowed down to them - and audits / inspections all the f'ing time

First articles, failure mode/effects analysis/ TINA reviews of proposals and supply chains -- THEN you add in classified parts / capabilities and a whole new wave of paperwork and control is added.....

The AUR (All Up Round) becomes a "priority A" assert on Air Force bases and is placed under unique security

Crews and support activities are scrutinized and vetted
Drills are put into place so that crews can calmly execute their mission when/if they have to deploy one......

Why are people asking the question about 'buying nukes" under the 2nd Amendment .... I think I see a similar 'challenge' from someone on a YT video

The two things aren't connected .... is the answer

See my above post. No one has ever said you can buy a nuke. They were brought up to illustrate a point about where we draw the line of "bearing arms".

 

[DwayneMeighan]

So your argument is that the government using tanks against its own populace at Waco wasn't tyrannical, but if the government did become tyrannical they would what? Not use tanks?

You know exactly what I mean. I'm not talking about a single isolated incident. Of course the populace isn't going take up arms against the government over that.

I'm talking in the event of real tyranny. Like if a murderous dictator took hold of the country oppressing, imprisoning, murdering citizens and detractors. The kind the 2nd Amendment was meant for. The government wouldn't have many soldiers to man the tanks because they'd all be fighting along side of their fellow countrymen.

You sure do have a low opinion of your fellow American citizens and our military members and leos. The fact that you think they'd go along with a Hitler, Stalin, Putin, Kim type also says a lot about you.

 

[JohnKBA]

I’d like to see someone who takes the dissenting opinion of Dwayne’s articulate their point in a similar, non emotional manner. His reply to my post seemed full of common sense.

When I see the words “bear arms” I interpret that as actual firearms - something that can be held and which fires a projectile. I would never interpret it to mean tanks or F 15 fighter jets or nukes.

 

[Mashburned]

So - take a good hard look at Europe and now South Africa and really THINK about some of the things that are happening there

Most of the nations have unarmed citizens that are facing increasingly violent Islamic immigrants -- and, frequently, a government that's ready to send them to prison for saying bad words on the internet or homeschooling their kids treating bacon too close to a Mohammedan

Gang rapes of under age girls is happening - and it's happening at a damned disturbing frequency

England - Muslim men in their 30's and 40's gang rape girls in their teens
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/...cted-non-muslim-girls-to-unimaginable-cruelty

France - Elderly Jewish concentration camp survivor - stabbed 11 times and set on fiery by Muslim neighbor whom "she knew well"
(apparently not)
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/...neighbor-she-knew-well-cops-search-for-motive

France - Muslim dickhead kills three in a supermarket was a KNOWN 'dangers to national security' .... but not really "TRACKED" and stuff....
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/...to-national-security-wasnt-under-surveillance

When it gets to the point that you are too afraid to leave your house at night
or
You don't feel safe when gangs are actively stalking your neighborhood
and
you KNOW that your own government will ignore your pleas for help (sometimes even BLAME YOU).....

Then you're either SUICIDAL,, STUPID or a brainwashed self-loathing Cuck if you aren't seeing the situation for what it is -- and preparing to defend yourself and your family

Take a look at South Africa -- you may have to do a little work to get the infuriation but the communist revolution there features race agitation as their vanguard call to action.....a lot like what we've seen in the US

Thug leader Malema tells white farmers to leave SA

View embedded media

Mother shot and raped in front of children
https://southafricatoday.net/south-...raped-in-front-of-wire-tied-children-hackney/

Elderly couple have home broken into - man's skull crushed with crowbar
https://southafricatoday.net/south-...s-tied-up-bludgeoned-bushy-park-smallholding/

Farmer tied up / repeatedly stabbed
https://southafricatoday.net/south-...savagely-stabbed-two-suspects-sought-roedtan/

and here's a funny thing from Sweden
the bad guys have weapons that are outlawed ANYWAY
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/03/world/europe/sweden-crime-immigration-hand-grenades.html


.........you think some of them wished they had been armed?
you think a movement -- with this political climate - would stop at removing "assault weapons* ??

Make no mistake - there are politicians here who would turn their heads as you and your family are slaughtered for whatever twisted rationale they posses in their sick f'ing minds.....

This isn't business as normal anymore

You are seeing an active revolution against this nation start to pick up steam
And there's more than a few 'useful idiots' who are being directed to terrorize, intimidate and oppress anyone who doesn't convert to their revolutionary mindset

If you are former military or police / firefighter and haven't joined Oath keepers.....YOU NEED TO

https://www.oathkeepers.org

Get involved and communicate with like minded / sane people

Promote peace and help each other -- but be ready to take a DAMN STAND and fight what's coming

Boom. Rubric just nuked you libtards.

 

[screwduke1]

Imagine being triggered over this.

 

[Dionysus444]

You know exactly what I mean. I'm not talking about a single isolated incident. Of course the populace isn't going take up arms against the government over that.

I'm talking in the event of real tyranny. Like if a murderous dictator took hold of the country oppressing, imprisoning, murdering citizens and detractors. The kind the 2nd Amendment was meant for. The government wouldn't have many soldiers to man the tanks because they'd all be fighting along side of their fellow countrymen.

You sure do have a low opinion of your fellow American citizens and our military members and leos. The fact that you think they'd go along with a Hitler, Stalin, Putin, Kim type also says a lot about you.

The fact that you think the average American is somehow more just and smarter than your average German during the rise of the Third Reich says something about you. And your naivete.

 

[screwduke1]

 

[screwduke1]

lol

 

[screwduke1]

 

[Mash 2.4]

The fact that you think the average American is somehow more just and smarter than your average German during the rise of the Third Reich says something about you. And your naivete.

And I suppose Trump is Hitler right? You do realize who was in charge when Waco went down don't you? You may have good intentions. But you're looking in the completely wrong direction with regard to the threat of tyranny and suppression of citizens rights.

 

[cardkilla]

CNN Poll: 42% approve of Trump, highest in 11 months.

.....Overall, 42% approve of the way Trump is handling the presidency, 54% disapprove. Approval is up 7 points overall since February, including 6-point increases among Republicans (from 80% to 86% now) and independents (from 35% to 41% now). Trump's approval rating remains below that of all of his modern-era predecessors at this stage in their first term after being elected, though Trump only trails Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama by a narrow 4 points at this point in their first terms. ....

Meanwhile, ......

bwahaha, I was just waiting to see which rightie would beat their chest over a 42% approval rating, coming after a 'historic' tax cut goes into effect. It's also funny to see you quoting CNN which is supposedly fake news, unless it is something you agree with.