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POLITICAL THREAD

How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
Birthright citizenship is done.

Also the best way to handle the liberal insanity is to ignore it here and elsewhere. Many of them are paid trolls and the rest, many others just want to be part of the resistance crowd, the rest are just stupid.

Odd as it sounds, even dunking on them gives them a voice and/or earns them money. Just ignore them and let them shout into the void.

This is absolutely the case. They are to be pitied, if anything.

They warranted attention before because of the threat their ideological revolution posed to the Republic, but no more. They're done for the foreseeable future. It's back to the future for America, where are foundational values are respected and nurtured once again.
 
In other words, you admit your administration f'd up and now you want Trump to fix it. Just so we're straight.
Good luck fixing 4 straight years of job growth, low unemployment, GDP growth, record stocks and no major wars involving mass deployment of US soldiers.
Over the next 4.....We already have
Nazi salutes and promises to round up large groups of people for deportation. What could possibly go wrong?? 🤣🤣
 
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Hey @Cold Stout Beer you clear this up yet

I answered your question, you too cowardly to answer mine?
Huh? I wasnt referring to you. You talk big behind your computer. Enjoy ignore….and being 5’6” tall. You guys and the guys with multiple aliases arent going to dupe me into arguing with all of you so you can run to moderators. Ill just keep hitting ignore. Bye now.
 
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Did this guy serve his time? DID HE??
"Julian Khater, who assaulted a U.S. police officer, Brian Sicknick, and later pled guilty to assaulting a police officer with a dangerous weapon. Devlyn Thompson, who hit a police officer with a metal baton, and Robert Palmer, who is the Florida man who attacked police with a fire extinguisher, a wooden plank, and a pole.
 
They can still pretend to be what they want. Only, when dealing with documentation (federal) there will be only 2 boxes to check, male or female. They can still dress how they want, do who they want. Their life will not be impacted other than letting a birth designation piss them off. Not really a big deal. The only other inconvenience for them will be they will not be able to push that insanity on the rest of us. They might try to push it, but those with balls will just blow them off...bad choice of words. ignore them...better.
 
You against rounding up criminals that are in the US illegally?
No....but the devil's in the details. I am against rounding up grandmas who have been here 20 years. Time will tell what this looks like.
Are you FOR pardoning dudes that beat up cops and vandalize federal property??
 
Huh? I wasnt referring to you. You talk big behind your computer. Enjoy ignore….and being 5’6” tall. You guys and the guys with multiple aliases arent going to dupe me into arguing with all of you so you can run to moderators. Ill just keep hitting ignore. Bye now.
You said Mike-McD...that's me, dipshit. Bye loser.

"Keep hitting ignore" - WTF? Which website do you think you're on?
 
They can still pretend to be what they want. Only, when dealing with documentation (federal) there will be only 2 boxes to check, male or female. They can still dress how they want, do who they want. Their life will not be impacted other than letting a birth designation piss them off. Not really a big deal. The only other inconvenience for them will be they will not be able to push that insanity on the rest of us. They might try to push it, but those with balls will just blow them off...bad choice of words. ignore them...better.
Very true. I just hope some wind comes out of their sails since they cant take advantage of the laws for at least the next four years. Basically what you just said. Tough day for pedophile filth.
 
No....but the devil's in the details. I am against rounding up grandmas who have been here 20 years. Time will tell what this looks like.
Are you FOR pardoning dudes that beat up cops and vandalize federal property??
They are going after criminals. If Grandma is a criminal then she needs to go regardless of how long she has been here. As for the pardons, i am good with most. How about Biden pardoning his Family Sam?
 
Im not excited about some of the j6 pardons and clemencies but.....they don't bother me much because those people never got a fair shake.

Any objective judge would've forced the government to hand over all discovery (as required by the law) which includes the number of cooperating or confidential witnesses and/or undercovers. You cant always get their names, but zero reason they should be withheld. Same with audio and video evidence.

Add in the fact they were all wrongly denied bail. People should understand most everyone in the federal system is entitled to be released post trial except in some limited circumstances. One of those being a flight risk and another being a danger to the general public. Id say rare few of these defendants met either of those exceptions and at worst should've been given pretrial monitoring.

Finally the speedy trial act. Every defendant is entitled to a speedy trial. That is a very strict standard in federal courts and requires trial in 70 days from the latter of indictment or first appearance. The only exception to it is an ends of justice exception which is applied only in complex cases, which are also defined. These cases met none of these, but people were held pretrial forever which forced many just to go ahead and plea.

Short of all these blatant injustices, most all these defendants probably beat their cases anyway. So while im not excited about the move, i think its ultimately the just result.

Next step is to find out everything about the setup and pursue every prosecutor that intentionally withheld this information and prosecute for perjury or obstruction of justice everyone that withholds evidence or lies about what went on.
 
One consistent thing with these pardons is they paid back everyone that helped hook and crook for the dem party.

Now consider the surprise pardon of jerry lundergan. What did he do for the party? Wrong question. What did his daughter do for the party? She was ky sos when andy beat bevin in a race where gop murdered dems down ballot but oddly not for governor.

Also dont forget im pretty sure they got the no bid contracts to put up the covid temporary hospitals that never saw a patient.

Given this pardon, i think its a decent chance they stole that election. Bevin was about to start the school voucher program, which trump was going to model.

A lot of us thought that entire election was shady. Follow the money replaced by follow the pardons.
 
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Im not excited about some of the j6 pardons and clemencies but.....they don't bother me much because those people never got a fair shake.

Any objective judge would've forced the government to hand over all discovery (as required by the law) which includes the number of cooperating or confidential witnesses and/or undercovers. You cant always get their names, but zero reason they should be withheld. Same with audio and video evidence.

Add in the fact they were all wrongly denied bail. People should understand most everyone in the federal system is entitled to be released post trial except in some limited circumstances. One of those being a flight risk and another being a danger to the general public. Id say rare few of these defendants met either of those exceptions and at worst should've been given pretrial monitoring.

Finally the speedy trial act. Every defendant is entitled to a speedy trial. That is a very strict standard in federal courts and requires trial in 70 days from the latter of indictment or first appearance. The only exception to it is an ends of justice exception which is applied only in complex cases, which are also defined. These cases met none of these, but people were held pretrial forever which forced many just to go ahead and plea.

Short of all these blatant injustices, most all these defendants probably beat their cases anyway. So while im not excited about the move, i think its ultimately the just result.

Next step is to find out everything about the setup and pursue every prosecutor that intentionally withheld this information and prosecute for perjury or obstruction of justice everyone that withholds evidence or lies about what went on.
Remember even those who did commit some sort of violence have served 3-4 years in VERY harsh conditions.

Time served.

I doubt they ever do that again. Or ever go to DC again.
 
Victoria Nuland is the name I keep seeing regarding this issue. She was a Diplomat for Obama and one of the first pieces to destabilizing Ukraine via the Maidan protestors, asserting that the US should have more say in the process of restructure, then parlayed that into pressuring Ukraine to make specific appointments, especially for for PM.

Just normal cia stuff.

She did not receive a pardon.

EDIT: Ah, apparently, she represents the start of the GOF biolabs existing in Ukraine.
 
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They are going after criminals. If Grandma is a criminal then she needs to go regardless of how long she has been here. As for the pardons, i am good with most. How about Biden pardoning his Family Sam?
That says it all. Pro cop beater. Pro rioter. Pro destroying property. Pro vandalize.
If all grandma did was come to America for a better life and hasn't committed any crimes then leave her alone.
 
Im not excited about some of the j6 pardons and clemencies but.....they don't bother me much because those people never got a fair shake.

Any objective judge would've forced the government to hand over all discovery (as required by the law) which includes the number of cooperating or confidential witnesses and/or undercovers. You cant always get their names, but zero reason they should be withheld. Same with audio and video evidence.

Add in the fact they were all wrongly denied bail. People should understand most everyone in the federal system is entitled to be released post trial except in some limited circumstances. One of those being a flight risk and another being a danger to the general public. Id say rare few of these defendants met either of those exceptions and at worst should've been given pretrial monitoring.

Finally the speedy trial act. Every defendant is entitled to a speedy trial. That is a very strict standard in federal courts and requires trial in 70 days from the latter of indictment or first appearance. The only exception to it is an ends of justice exception which is applied only in complex cases, which are also defined. These cases met none of these, but people were held pretrial forever which forced many just to go ahead and plea.

Short of all these blatant injustices, most all these defendants probably beat their cases anyway. So while im not excited about the move, i think its ultimately the just result.

Next step is to find out everything about the setup and pursue every prosecutor that intentionally withheld this information and prosecute for perjury or obstruction of justice everyone that withholds evidence or lies about what went on.
I’m not a lawyer so I’m not sure how possible this is, but if the people who faced unjust punishment or were denied their rights before being thrown in jail can file a giant civil suit against all that wronged them, I’m ALL for that. These people should be able to sue the pants off the folks of the J6 committee who gladly lied and covered evidence to allow these folks to go to jail.
 
When ppl don't understand how Trump gained a large share of black voters. The following is why. Instead of trying to speak to them like they were regular Americans- give them opportunity for entrepreneurship, opportunities for their youth to be interested in STEM, literally anything that any other race is interested in. They completely insulted them by thinking trotting a bunch of rappers on stage was all that was needed to appeal to them. Ppl like this:

I cannot believe a former stripper prostitute who used to drug and rob men and now raps about her pussy is somehow not smart.
 
Don’t know all the details but he was awaiting sentencing on charges of witness tampering, disorderly conduct, etc. Not sure how much time he was going to have to do. Really sad what happened to him but I thought if people commit a crime, shouldn’t they do their time?

**please keep response to the topic at hand and not the obligatory “well Biden pardoned his family”.. I’ve already stated I don’t agree with a preemptive pardon**
 
Im not excited about some of the j6 pardons and clemencies but.....they don't bother me much because those people never got a fair shake.

Any objective judge would've forced the government to hand over all discovery (as required by the law) which includes the number of cooperating or confidential witnesses and/or undercovers. You cant always get their names, but zero reason they should be withheld. Same with audio and video evidence.

Add in the fact they were all wrongly denied bail. People should understand most everyone in the federal system is entitled to be released post trial except in some limited circumstances. One of those being a flight risk and another being a danger to the general public. Id say rare few of these defendants met either of those exceptions and at worst should've been given pretrial monitoring.

Finally the speedy trial act. Every defendant is entitled to a speedy trial. That is a very strict standard in federal courts and requires trial in 70 days from the latter of indictment or first appearance. The only exception to it is an ends of justice exception which is applied only in complex cases, which are also defined. These cases met none of these, but people were held pretrial forever which forced many just to go ahead and plea.

Short of all these blatant injustices, most all these defendants probably beat their cases anyway. So while im not excited about the move, i think its ultimately the just result.

Next step is to find out everything about the setup and pursue every prosecutor that intentionally withheld this information and prosecute for perjury or obstruction of justice everyone that withholds evidence or lies about what went on.
The left is so awful and so evil that there is nothing I wouldn’t pardon against these parasites. While we are at it, let’s pardon the drugged out Pelosi lover that hit him with a hammer. I mean these people tried to murder Trump, imprisoned protestors while spending months, actually years, funding psycho leftists, Antifa and BLM destroying and attacking everything in its path.
 
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