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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
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Good god it’s like someone pulls a string and you just repeat the standard uninformed lefty lines.

How many of those “70 lawsuits” that Trump “lost” were decided on the merits (or even had any discovery at all), vs those that were thrown out for things like lack of standing?
You know what? I actually don’t know which ones had merit and which ones were frivolous so I apologize bringing it up.

I actually wish we had closure in this election. I wish that Trump was able to get the validation he needed so that he could have accepted defeat. It took Covid to bring him down and I bet a lot of undecided voters went trump, Biden, trump the last three elections.

Hopefully everyone gets out of his way when it comes to policies and cabinet picks. I don’t want the ability to accurately judge him in a few years to be muddled up with democrats and TDS republicans.
 
Again, this doesn’t surprise anyone with a free-thinking brain. MSDNC hired a race-hustling grifter that owes millions in unpaid taxes. WTF did they expect?

What’s that? The Good Reverend Saint Al Sharpton The Great did something shady during the election? OMG!!! No way!!!

Dumbasses.
 
Don't like Stone...at all...but she is a smart lady (obviously doesn't apply it though). Has a reported IQ of 150ish and is a member of Mensa.

Common sense is a super power, and it definitely doesn't go hand in hand with high IQ.....especially on the liberal side of things. There are many very smart libs, but they will be the first to touch the bench w/ the wet paint sign.
 
You know what? I actually don’t know which ones had merit and which ones were frivolous so I apologize bringing it up.

I actually wish we had closure in this election. I wish that Trump was able to get the validation he needed so that he could have accepted defeat. It took Covid to bring him down and I bet a lot of undecided voters went trump, Biden, trump the last three elections.

Hopefully everyone gets out of his way when it comes to policies and cabinet picks. I don’t want the ability to accurately judge him in a few years to be muddled up with democrats and TDS republicans.
Oh yes I'm sure you're behind him all the way LOL

In other news...

Trump not falling for Obama's spying bullshit this time:
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Lol, you have no clue what you’re talking about. Election fraud was rampant in 2020, 2022, and 2024. No court looked at the evidence. Get bent.

Discovery was key and NO court allowed it to get to that point. I have to and always will wonder why... (I know why.) The judges themselves who made those decisions need to be investigated.
 
I find it amusing the Kamala campaign staffers are trying to save their careers now claiming they knew all along Kamala was losing everywhere.

Doubly amusing that they’re pointing out the media polling was completely fraudulent.

What a bunch of hacks.

Thank god they lost.
Dems never self analyze. They never look in the mirror and think they could be the problem and change. Nope. It’s always “Double down on everything”, “try to control 100% of all info”, crash the economy, sabotage, change the voters, etc.

Never have they asked themselves “What do the people actually want? Why do they like Trump?” No, it’s “We will force this. Everyone else is the problem.”
 
Dems never self analyze. They never look in the mirror and think they could be the problem and change. Nope. It’s always “Double down on everything”, “try to control 100% of all info”, crash the economy, sabotage, change the voters, etc.

Never have they asked themselves “What do the people actually want? Why do they like Trump?” No, it’s “We will force this. Everyone else is the problem.”

The ultimate fascists/federalists/worshippers of the crown. Always combative, always war hawks, and always wanting more government to manage what they are too lazy to even consider
 
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Dems never self analyze. They never look in the mirror and think they could be the problem and change. Nope. It’s always “Double down on everything”, “try to control 100% of all info”, crash the economy, sabotage, change the voters, etc.

Never have they asked themselves “What do the people actually want? Why do they like Trump?” No, it’s “We will force this. Everyone else is the problem.”
Spot on. You’d think they would realize how awful their ideas and social views are after America voted for Donald F’n Trump twice (really 3 times) now. You know how awful your ideas and social values have to be to let that happen?

Yet they’ll never admit it, and worse, they’ll triple down on it. They have to be stomped out.
 
Spot on. You’d think they would realize how awful their ideas and social views are after America voted for Donald F’n Trump twice (really 3 times) now. You know how awful your ideas and social values have to be to let that happen?

Yet they’ll never admit it, and worse, they’ll triple down on it. They have to be stomped out.
The GOP sure AF didn’t self analyze either. The voters decided for them. The GOP establishment would still operate the same if they could. It’s just they don’t get to control what the voters wanted in a candidate.

After losing twice by running two Dem-lite candidates in 2008 and 2012, Republican voters knew what they were doing wasn’t inspiring anyone. GOP trotted out Jeb Bush for Hillary to kick the shit out of. Voters heard a guy actually speak about immigration and not be a giant pussy with the media and then fell in love.

We’ve got a conservative SCOTUS cause of conservative voters. No one else. The Republican Party and so many of its talking heads were gonna be content with letting Hillary win and Dems control the Supreme Court. Imagine what we’d be looking at right now with that? Goodbye 2A. Goodbye 1A. Goodbye electoral college.

I’ll never forget guys like Ben Shapiro suggesting we “punt in 2016” after Trump got the nominee and then run a “real conservative in 2020,”
 
Dems never self analyze. They never look in the mirror and think they could be the problem and change. Nope. It’s always “Double down on everything”, “try to control 100% of all info”, crash the economy, sabotage, change the voters, etc.

Never have they asked themselves “What do the people actually want? Why do they like Trump?” No, it’s “We will force this. Everyone else is the problem.”
I don’t think the old guard does. There’s an arrogance in the dem party and I think it can be attributed to these guys.

There are some younger democrats that are trying to understand what went wrong. If these voices are able to make some headway, I think the Democratic Party can become the party of the working class again. We’ll see.
Ah, you haven't proceeded to Phase II of the Troll Handbook yet. Phase I is "Pretend to be agreeable and like Trump."

At the first sign of trouble you'll shit all over him and start blasting everyone here.
i cannot stand Trump, but I don’t want any scapegoats if he falls flat on his face.

I’m wrong everyday and it does not bother me one bit to admit that. Once more people can humble themselves, we’ll be able to see a democracy where both sides can coexist again.
 
I don’t think the old guard does. There’s an arrogance in the dem party and I think it can be attributed to these guys.

There are some younger democrats that are trying to understand what went wrong. If these voices are able to make some headway, I think the Democratic Party can become the party of the working class again. We’ll see.

i cannot stand Trump, but I don’t want any scapegoats if he falls flat on his face.

I’m wrong everyday and it does not bother me one bit to admit that. Once more people can humble themselves, we’ll be able to see a democracy where both sides can coexist again.
Both sides are diametrically opposed. They cannot coexist. You fail to understand the spiritual battle going on in this country. People like you who are blinded to the truth will never come around to accepting people like me. Your side wants all of us destroyed or enslaved.

"I cannot stand Trump" - that's another tell. You don't know ANYTHING about him. If you bothered to do any research on your own instead of swallowing lefty talking points, you'd be able to articulate why without using terms like "racist" or "Nazi."

Did you vote for Kamala?
 
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I don’t think the old guard does. There’s an arrogance in the dem party and I think it can be attributed to these guys.

There are some younger democrats that are trying to understand what went wrong. If these voices are able to make some headway, I think the Democratic Party can become the party of the working class again. We’ll see.
I feel the complete opposite. The younger gen of democrats are basically communists with zero room for disagreement.

They’ve been brainwashed. By our education system, by our entertainment industry, by our social media platforms, and even by our scientific institutions.

If you even hint at disagreeing with just one of their beliefs, they immediately go into hyperventilation mode/needing safe spaces and therapy/call you a bigoted nazi, uneducated racist and so on.

There are videos out there all over the place of them disowning their Trump voting parents/family/friends/neighbors.

The old guard is (was?) the Dems last chance to salvage their party from the extreme/communists. Unfortunately for them, all the sane ones are running away from them and into the arms of the GOP.

Which is fine - I welcome any sane-thinking person into the party, even if I disagree with some of their beliefs/policies. I just wish they would stay in their own party and attempt to bring sanity back to it.
 
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Both sides are diametrically opposed. They cannot coexist. You fail to understand the spiritual battle going on in this country. People like you who are blinded to the truth will never come around to accepting people like me. Your side wants all of us destroyed or enslaved.

"I cannot stand Trump" - that's another tell. You don't know ANYTHING about him. If you bothered to do any research on your own instead of swallowing lefty talking points, you'd be able to articulate why without using terms like "racist" or "Nazi."

Did you vote for Kamala?
I did vote for Harris.

I sincerely believe that if an online group of people who were unified under a common favorite team got together, we’d find out we share more in common than we don’t. There are foundational of the far left and far right that will keep those characters from agreeing, but I bet most people with common sense would be able to find a happy middle (coming from someone without a lot of common sense)

I’ll bite on the Trump bit. I don’t like him for a few reasons. The unfair reason is that he’s extremely wealthy and I have a natural distrust for everyone that fits that category.

I think the valid reasons I have for not liking him is that he has refused to give up his business holdings while in office. Being in public office should be one of the more greater sacrifices one makes and I don’t think anyone should be able to enrich themselves whilst representing the common man.

I also think that the people closest to him that have said negative things warrants a least a second look at his capabilities or running this country. Barr, Bolton, Pence, etc. have made some very serious allegations that has molded my opinion of his ability to hold the office.
 
Both sides are diametrically opposed. They cannot coexist. You fail to understand the spiritual battle going on in this country. People like you who are blinded to the truth will never come around to accepting people like me. Your side wants all of us destroyed or enslaved.

"I cannot stand Trump" - that's another tell. You don't know ANYTHING about him. If you bothered to do any research on your own instead of swallowing lefty talking points, you'd be able to articulate why without using terms like "racist" or "Nazi."

Did you vote for Kamala?

Probably never voted. Those are "usually" the ones that type the loudest... (It's blocked, all I see is your responses.)
 
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I did vote for Harris.

I sincerely believe that if an online group of people who were unified under a common favorite team got together, we’d find out we share more in common than we don’t. There are foundational of the far left and far right that will keep those characters from agreeing, but I bet most people with common sense would be able to find a happy middle (coming from someone without a lot of common sense)

I’ll bite on the Trump bit. I don’t like him for a few reasons. The unfair reason is that he’s extremely wealthy and I have a natural distrust for everyone that fits that category.

I think the valid reasons I have for not liking him is that he has refused to give up his business holdings while in office. Being in public office should be one of the more greater sacrifices one makes and I don’t think anyone should be able to enrich themselves whilst representing the common man.

I also think that the people closest to him that have said negative things warrants a least a second look at his capabilities or running this country. Barr, Bolton, Pence, etc. have made some very serious allegations that has molded my opinion of his ability to hold the office.
Name three accomplishments of Kamala Harris you believe qualify her to run the most complicated country in the world.

You voted for her, she literally PAID rich people to endorse her. She took a BILLION DOLLARS from rich men and blew A BILLION PLUS TWENTY MILLION. She represents the party of the rich and actually outspent her own campaign so badly Trump offered (ironically) to pay it off for her. YOU should be embarrassed.

Do you favor Nancy Pelosi, whose Congressional salary is $182,000 but she's worth over $200M? She obtained that wealth AFTER her first election. Did you begrudge her lack of divestment?

You're full of shyte.

Barr and Bolton were fired.

Pence is a little shit who has since come back and endorsed Trump.

I love how you're all about "allegations." But proof? Nah, right bruh?
 
I think the valid reasons I have for not liking him is that he has refused to give up his business holdings while in office. Being in public office should be one of the more greater sacrifices one makes and I don’t think anyone should be able to enrich themselves whilst representing the common man.
I’m trying to take your advice and not be so confrontational, but shit like this makes it hard.

He was the first President in forever - maybe ever - to lose wealth while POTUS. He never took a dime of his salary and donated it to other institutions.

He gave up his golden years to run for President to help this country. In the process, his constitutional rights were violated, a coup was attempted to remove him before he ever stepped foot in the White House, an investigation was opened up to hamstring his first term, they stole an election, tried to bankrupt him, tried to imprison him, and tried to keep him off the ballot this go ‘round.

So pardon me if I don’t think he used the office for his own personal gain. And pardon me for thinking he *did* sacrifice a ton for this country…..almost sacrificed his life for it.
 
I feel the complete opposite. The younger gen of democrats are basically communists with zero room for disagreement.

They’ve been brainwashed. By our education system, by our entertainment industry, by our social media platforms, and even by out scientific institutions.

If you even hint at disagreeing with even one of their believes, they immediately go into hyperventilation mode/needing safe spaces and therapy/call you a bigoted nazi, uneducated racist and so on.

There are videos out there all over the place of them disowning their Trump voting parents/family/friends/neighbors.

The old guard is (was?) the Dems last chance to salvage their party from the extreme/communists. Unfortunately for them, all the sane ones are running away from them and into the arms of the GOP.

Which is fine - I welcome any sane-thinking person into the party, even if I disagree with some of their beliefs/policies. I just wish they would stay in their own party and attempt to bring sanity back to it.
Perhaps the youngest dems, but I am in my mid 30's and I listen to many more central voices. The youngest will come around. Every generation starts extreme left before working their way to the middle.
Name three accomplishments of Kamala Harris you believe qualify her to run the most complicated country in the world.

You voted for her, she literally PAID rich people to endorse her. She took a BILLION DOLLARS from rich men and blew A BILLION PLUS TWENTY MILLION. She represents the party of the rich and actually outspent her own campaign so badly Trump offered (ironically) to pay it off for her. YOU should be embarrassed.

Do you favor Nancy Pelosi, whose Congressional salary is $182,000 but she's worth over $200M? She obtained that wealth AFTER her first election. Did you begrudge her lack of divestment?

You're full of shyte.

Barr and Bolton were fired.

Pence is a little shit who has since come back and endorsed Trump.

I love how you're all about "allegations." But proof? Nah, right bruh?
Harris supported legalization of marijuana as a senator.
As VP, she was the deciding vote for the CHIPS act, Inflation reduction act, and the infrastructure bill. I'm not here to defend the merits, just stating that I think all three of these were beneficial to us
Campaign promises were enough to get me on board. The additional taxes on tax brackets that make 250K or more sold me. I am a single issue voter in that I really want to redistribute wealth from the top to the bottom and I want to reduce the deficit. You can call me a dumbass if you want, many people have done that over the years, but these are my biggest issues.

Pelosi, Scott, and Menendez from NJ , and many others are all phony a-holes that should be sanctioned with fines or jail time for the wealth they have accumulated in office. They all suck and the fact that they won't tackle this problem pisses me off.

I could say more about Trump, but I really don't want to argue about him. I am willing to give him a clean slate so that he can accomplish what he believes will help the US and we can judge him accordingly.

Also, I don't know how to do this, but back in July when Biden announced he was stepping down, I firmly believed we'd have some sort of caucus before Ohio. I was really big on Mark Kelly, but unfortunately the powers that be didn't allow any additional challengers. /shrug
I’m trying to take your advice and not be so confrontational, but shit like this makes it hard.

He was the first President in forever - maybe ever - to lose wealth while POTUS. He never took a dime of his salary and donated it to other institutions.

He gave up his golden years to run for President to help this country. In the process, his constitutional rights were violated, a coup was attempted to remove him before he ever stepped foot in the White House, an investigation was opened up to hamstring his first term, they stole an election, tried to bankrupt him, tried to imprison him, and tried to keep him off the ballot this go ‘round.

So pardon me if I don’t think he used the office for his own personal gain. And pardon me for thinking he *did* sacrifice a ton for this country…..almost sacrificed his life for it.
I appreciate the longer leash. The vagueness of his finances just doesn't sit well. Once a person reaches a certain threshold of fame, money, or power, they have to prove in tangible ways that they are telling the truth. Word alone isn't enough for me. Unfortunately, I haven't seen anything to counter this. Am open to changing my mind on this if the evidence is presented.
 
You know what? I actually don’t know which ones had merit and which ones were frivolous so I apologize bringing it up.


Well no one said any of them were frivolous. If a judge tosses a suit due to lack of standing or some other issue, that doesn’t necessarily mean it was frivolous.

You should just know your attempt at a point about “losing lawsuits” is grounded in complete ignorance of actual issues. Yet I’m sure you’ve heard it repeated constantly.

Given the lawsuit talking point you’ve repeated that doesn’t make sense to anyone with knowledge of the issues, you should re-examine your information sources and other talking points you continuously repeat.

Same goes for your crime stats. Everyone here knows large cities stopped reporting crime data. It’s been beat to death. But with your limited, biased information sources you were not aware.
 
As VP, she was the deciding vote for the CHIPS act, Inflation reduction act, and the infrastructure bill.
These actions were overwhelmingly responsible for the inflation that has devastated the middle, working, and lower classes.

It is incomprehensible that you or anyone else could think these were positive accomplishments. Utterly incomprehensible.
 
These actions were overwhelmingly responsible for the inflation that has devastated the middle, working, and lower classes.

It is incomprehensible that you or anyone else could think these were positive accomplishments. Utterly incomprehensible.
They certainly added to the debt. I think global inflation can be attributed to COVID measures. I think stimulant checks that were started under Trump and then continued by Biden did more to conflate inflation.

Inflation is certainly down, but inflation calculators does not account for everyday purchases like gas and groceries. This blinder aided in my ignorance and hubris in a winning election for Harris.
 
I am a single issue voter in that I really want to redistribute wealth from the top to the bottom and I want to reduce the deficit. You can call me a dumbass if you want, many people have done that over the years, but these are my biggest issues.

If many people are consistently telling you you’re a dumbass, you may want to start listening.
 
I appreciate the longer leash. The vagueness of his finances just doesn't sit well. Once a person reaches a certain threshold of fame, money, or power, they have to prove in tangible ways that they are telling the truth. Word alone isn't enough for me. Unfortunately, I haven't seen anything to counter this. Am open to changing my mind on this if the evidence is presented.
Tangible ways like donating his salary and losing wealth while being president?
 
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Tangible ways like donating his salary and losing wealth while being president?
Tangible in that releasing his taxes. Tangible in providing evidence to counterclaims that he charges secret services to stay at his resorts and hotels. Also the claims that foreign embassies funneled money into those business. I'd be a lot more forgiving of Trump if he sold these assets so that these allegations could not be used against him.
Wait - a fiscal conservative whose biggest issue is wealth redistribution? Lmao.
I'm slow. I don't understand the irony here.
 
As I try to reflect on past misconceptions, I have read fewer things from mainstream media and have tried to find media that shines the light objectively.

This channel is quick to call the BS on both sides and the videos are short enough to help my ADHD brain retain at least a modicum of info so I don't drool on myself when I talk to others.

 
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