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I love this kinda shit.

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So now the cocksucker Rs are threatening conservatives saying if they don't vote for Obamacare Lite, they aren't going to move forward on tax reform.

F*ck em.

Vote against Obamacare Lite. Who gives a shit about tax reform at this point. If it's Paul Ryan and Co. writing the policy, we know it's going to be shitty for the country, so it's not even worth it.
 
So now the cocksucker Rs are threatening conservatives saying if they don't vote for Obamacare Lite, they aren't going to move forward on tax reform.

F*ck em.

Vote against Obamacare Lite. Who gives a shit about tax reform at this point. If it's Paul Ryan and Co. writing the policy, we know it's going to be shitty for the country, so it's not even worth it.

There are too many Establishment Rs in gov't against Trump.
 
Sounds like you have some major daddy issues. We are here to help. We want you to stop selling your body on the street corner.
No, not at all. But thanks for laughing at the fact that child abuse takes place every day. Man, those are some good conservative values you got there. Real Christian-like of you:clap:
 
There are too many Establishment Rs in gov't against Trump.

Actually this is false on this policy. The policy sucks, as does Obamacare.

I say F them, vote on it and if it doesn't pass cool! Let Obamacare ride out and see how America feels about these idiots not willing to come to work and do their job for us.
 
Actually this is false on this policy. The policy sucks, as does Obamacare.

I say F them, vote on it and if it doesn't pass cool! Let Obamacare ride out and see how America feels about these idiots not willing to come to work and do their job for us.

No. Absolutely not. It needs to be canned and real reform needs to happen.
 
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No, not at all. But thanks for laughing at the fact that child abuse takes place every day. Man, those are some good conservative values you got there. Real Christian-like of you:clap:
No one here is laughing at anything other than you, man. Rest assured.

So, your solution to problems that already exist here, w/o solutions for said problems, is to add fuel to an already existing fire with a heavy influx of a culture KNOWN worldwide for misogyny, rape, terror, putting the lives of women, children, animals and non-believers below themselves and who have just a general attitude for destroying things when they don't get their way? Hey, WTF could possibly go wrong with that? At least your pussy won't hurt anymore and you'll be able to sleep at night when you bury your face into Harry Manback. Right?

GFY, loser.
 
No. Absolutely not. It needs to be canned and real reform needs to happen.

You understand there isn't much difference in what we are looking at with the new policy and the hope is to make changes on down the road right?

I mean screw that.

I don't like Obamacare either but I promise it only gets worse and more diar for these idiots to fix it if we wait it out.

Trump could play that card and look much better than trying to bully his own party.
 
You understand there isn't much difference in what we are looking at with the new policy and the hope is to make changes on down the road right?

I mean screw that.

I don't like Obamacare either but I promise it only gets worse and more diar for these idiots to fix it if we wait it out.

Trump could play that card and look much better than trying to bully his own party.
Your lack of ability to do anything but prematurely bitch about DT is impressive. You need vision.

Young bull says to older bull, "Dad, let's run down there and **** one of those cows."
Older bull says, "No, son... let's walk down there... and **** them all."
 
You understand there isn't much difference in what we are looking at with the new policy and the hope is to make changes on down the road right?

I mean screw that.

I don't like Obamacare either but I promise it only gets worse and more diar for these idiots to fix it if we wait it out.

Trump could play that card and look much better than trying to bully his own party.


Krazy, pretty sure Trump doesn't have a say so in this. Establishment Rs will hold this up. Let Rand Paul work this bill. It will be 1 million times better than shit ass Paul big ears Ryan
 
Your lack of ability to do anything but prematurely bitch about DT is impressive. You need vision.

Young bull says to older bull, "Dad, let's run down there and **** one of those cows."
Older bull says, "No, son... let's walk down there... and **** them all."

The bitch isn't about Trump, this healthcare bill will not help anything. Get that through your head. I'm not bitching about trump I clearly said he has this where he can absolutely crush both sides.

Dems won't help because they don't want Trump getting credit for anything. Repubs are against it because it isn't the governments job to offer healthcare.

Ultimately sit back say you tried and the politician did political hack garbage.

I don't believe it's governments job to fix this crap, but letting Obamacare fail all the way to the end is a great plan.
 
Krazy, pretty sure Trump doesn't have a say so in this. Establishment Rs will hold this up. Let Rand Paul work this bill. It will be 1 million times better than shit ass Paul big ears Ryan

No one wants Rand to do anything to get political momentum because they all know he will run for president and that might get him elected or worse enough of the votes that he takes away from the candidate they want!
 
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I think rand and Ryan are trying to do the same thing two different ways. Rand wants to do it all at once, which could be blocked.

Ryan wants to do it piece by piece so it doesn't fall victim to reconciliation.

The only thing is - I don't trust ryan to actually follow through.
 
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- Matthews/Libs sooo butt hurt over Garland/Gorsuch.....revisionist history, libs were quietly fine with the block so HC could go *full* lib. Them tears tasty....

- Feinstein with the ole "constitution a living breathing doc".....it actually is. BREAKING: you can change the constitution at any time. ANY. Just have to have the votes, Player. It being hard to do is tough shit.

- Still no Russia facts? Sleepy....

- What on earf is the problem with hashing the hca out? If it fails, just keep cracking at it? Isn't that their job? Prudence would suggest need to do it soon just so start time doesn't get pushed back further ****ing the folks for another year.

- when I have to get some daily desk work in, I usually run some YouTube election night/predictions/realities clips in the background. They are still that entertaining to me.

- HOT TAKE: I actually think both sides are somewhat ok with the Russia literal non-story. Trump has been able to get (and will keep getting) a lot of shit through under the radar. Dems get to have the spotlight off the humiliating loss and their regional party status.

....that said, as long as manufacturing jobs and he labor participation rate are improving there is literally/figuratively no chance for Ds near term. Got to pay the piper at some point and they don't want to. That's why it's ultimately a trump plus, because it's fictional.......and not one second of the D behavior has been self reflective on how to get the rust belt back.

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Don't kid yourselves. Trump knows the RyanCare bill is absolutely awful. He knows Paul Ryan sucks.

He defends it in public because he pretty much has too. If he doesn't, it just gives the left ammo.

The freedom caucus have said Trump is much more open to negotiations than Paul Ryan is on the bill. That should tell you everything you need to know.
 
Every day I look at the Twitter machine. Every couple days the few lefty folks I follow act as if they have finally found the smoking gun that will prove once and for all Russia hacked our election. Because I believe Russia hacking our election would be a big deal and that the people I follow aren't retarded, I follow their links . . . there is never anything that resembling a smoking gun.

Is this really how it's going to be for 4 years?
 
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Your lack of ability to do anything but prematurely bitch about DT is impressive. You need vision.

Young bull says to older bull, "Dad, let's run down there and **** one of those cows."
Older bull says, "No, son... let's walk down there... and **** them all."
All this is, basically, is a tax cut disguised as Health Care reform. Millions of people are going to suffer while the middle class and up get to save a little cash. Im not an expert, but this I know.
 
All this is, basically, is a tax cut disguised as Health Care reform. Millions of people are going to suffer while the middle class and up get to save a little cash. Im not an expert, but this I know.

suffer? you are talking about millions who don't work and are receiving benefits, if you can even call the insurance they have coverage, at the expense of working class people who actually pay taxes. and last i checked, these same people can still walk into ER's or walk in clinics and can't be denied care. freakin commie. you are clueless
 
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Don't kid yourselves. Trump knows the RyanCare bill is absolutely awful. He knows Paul Ryan sucks.

He defends it in public because he pretty much has too. If he doesn't, it just gives the left ammo.

The freedom caucus have said Trump is much more open to negotiations than Paul Ryan is on the bill. That should tell you everything you need to know.

OMG quit crying! How could you possibly not see how awesome this bill is.........

/halfthisthread
 
Look I don't care how much you love Trump or Obama but govt run healthcare is stupid and awful, period.

That's the bottom line so any bill including healthcare is whack!

You want to foot the bill for people? Ok fine keep programs like passport for the absolute poor, and give assistance to those just above the poverty line.

Give a partial premium payment per month for those that just miss qualifying for passport and make everything else free market.

It's that f'n simple!!
 
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suffer? you are talking about millions who don't work and are receiving benefits, if you can even call the insurance they have coverage, at the expense of working class people who actually pay taxes. and last i checked, these same people can still walk into ER's or walk in clinics and can't be denied care. freakin commie. you are clueless
Redistribution of wealth can be a positive for both the poor and the rich. When the gap between the rich and poor is too large, economic disparities will occur. The rich want to stay rich, but without granting the poor some semblance of cash flow the rich cannot stay rich.

Taxes suck, but the middle class isnt suffering. Tax cuts from Trump will only give back 2-5% of your salary. The poor will notice that more than you.
 
man you read straight out of Marxist economic theory. and your economic model failed miserably. the citizens suffered more, way more under government run wealth distribution than anyone including our "poor" do here.

you want to grant poor some semblance of cash flow, create jobs. if you simply don't want to work, then you deserve your poverty. but you don't deserve my tax dollars.

you obviously have never worked for a living. give it a shot, years down the road you will have a much more hardened opinion on what the government does with the money it takes from your check.
 
man you read straight out of Marxist economic theory. and your economic model failed miserably. the citizens suffered more, way more under government run wealth distribution than anyone including our "poor" do here.

you want to grant poor some semblance of cash flow, create jobs. if you simply don't want to work, then you deserve your poverty. but you don't deserve my tax dollars.

you obviously have never worked for a living. give it a shot, years down the road you will have a much more hardened opinion on what the government does with the money it takes from your check.
Marxist? Commie? It's funny how I try to debate you with reasonable arguments, but all I get in return are flat insults. That's usually a sign of desperation, my friend.

Classes in society are necessary for a thriving country, but creating fairness among them isn't such a bad thing. That's all I'm saying, despite what you're accusing me of.

Oh by the way, it seemed your economy surged with Bush, oh wait.. It didn't. I won't get into the whole recession thing.
 
- Matthews/Libs sooo butt hurt over Garland/Gorsuch.....revisionist history, libs were quietly fine with the block so HC could go *full* lib. Them tears tasty....

- Feinstein with the ole "constitution a living breathing doc".....it actually is. BREAKING: you can change the constitution at any time. ANY. Just have to have the votes, Player. It being hard to do is tough shit.

- Still no Russia facts? Sleepy....

- What on earf is the problem with hashing the hca out? If it fails, just keep cracking at it? Isn't that their job? Prudence would suggest need to do it soon just so start time doesn't get pushed back further ****ing the folks for another year.

- when I have to get some daily desk work in, I usually run some YouTube election night/predictions/realities clips in the background. They are still that entertaining to me.

- HOT TAKE: I actually think both sides are somewhat ok with the Russia literal non-story. Trump has been able to get (and will keep getting) a lot of shit through under the radar. Dems get to have the spotlight off the humiliating loss and their regional party status.

....that said, as long as manufacturing jobs and he labor participation rate are improving there is literally/figuratively no chance for Ds near term. Got to pay the piper at some point and they don't want to. That's why it's ultimately a trump plus, because it's fictional.......and not one second of the D behavior has been self reflective on how to get the rust belt back.

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Great post. I concur. With all of it.
 
Marxist? Commie? It's funny how I try to debate you with reasonable arguments, but all I get in return are flat insults. That's usually a sign of desperation, my friend.

Classes in society are necessary for a thriving country, but creating fairness among them isn't such a bad thing. That's all I'm saying, despite what you're accusing me of.

Oh by the way, it seemed your economy surged with Bush, oh wait.. It didn't. I won't get into the whole recession thing.


Saying you follow an economic theory is not an insult. You just ate butt hurt because you had no idea what the history of your beliefs are. Marxism. Good job.
 
Redistribution of wealth can be a positive for both the poor and the rich. When the gap between the rich and poor is too large, economic disparities will occur. The rich want to stay rich, but without granting the poor some semblance of cash flow the rich cannot stay rich.

Taxes suck, but the middle class isnt suffering. Tax cuts from Trump will only give back 2-5% of your salary. The poor will notice that more than you.

The middle class isn't suffering? It's dying son. Who do you think won the election for trump? The desperate middle class tired of paying for entitlements for deadbeats while they work their asses off.
 
Marxist? Commie? It's funny how I try to debate you with reasonable arguments, but all I get in return are flat insults. That's usually a sign of desperation, my friend.

Classes in society are necessary for a thriving country, but creating fairness among them isn't such a bad thing. That's all I'm saying, despite what you're accusing me of.

Oh by the way, it seemed your economy surged with Bush, oh wait.. It didn't. I won't get into the whole recession thing.

i call you a commie because that is exactly what you are advocating for. do you not see what your theories are and what economic model they come from? look, utopia doesn't exist, there is and will always be poor in society. it's not a disease you can cure. it's not a problem you can tax your way out of. you speak of fairness, but what exactly does fair mean? is it fair to the ones who work, who created their own wealth to have their income taken from them to give it to someone else? your idea of fairness is robbery to someone else. don't really know why you bring up Bush? he was awful. we are speaking in broader terms, economic philosophy, not particular presidents. and what exactly do you think happens when you increase taxes on wealthy corporations? who do you think that effects? you know why people say corporations don't pay taxes? well they most certainly do. and you can increase those tax rates ten fold to bring in your new revenue stream to give to the poor. but guess what, those corporations view taxes as an overhead expense. that cost to them is then reflected on the cost of the product they produce. guess who are the consumers of the vast majority of the products that these corporations produce? the working middle class. you raise taxes on the wealthy, they will simply raise the prices of their products, thus raising the cost to the middle class. so raising taxes on the wealthy corporations is simply another tax on the middle class. we take on that burden.

you are an advocate for socialism. there is a reason our capitalist economic experiment created the wealthiest most powerful country the world has ever seen. a country that everyone once envied. and your views want to destroy it. in the name of fairness. guess what, life is hard. people lose. not everyone wins, not everyone gets a trophy. life is not fair.
 
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