POLITICAL THREAD

[ukcatz12]

If Iowa were that close both candidates would be there drumming up support.

That's not necessarily true. Iowa will never be the tipping point state. If Iowa indeed goes to Harris, then that most likely means states like PA, WI, MI, and potentially NC go to Harris too. In that case it doesn't really matter.

Like I said, polls are just polls. But this pollster really knows how to poll Iowa and has been incredibly accurate in the past. Her 2020 polls did the same thing as this one, just in reverse. They showed Biden up until the very last poll three days before the election had Trump up by 7 or 8. She was dismissed at the time and everyone said the poll was dead wrong. She was right.

 

[sambowieshin]

You know the left is f’g insane when their candidate/party run on attacking the first and second amendments.

Please cite a credible current source where Kamala says she is restricting freedom of speech and taking away guns. Good luck with anything besides a Russian meme.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

This guy behind Trump's shoulder got a good laugh out of him:

 

[hmt5000]

None of the data suggest Harris is surging anywhere. Dem voters aren't turning out like '20 and pubs are voting at a higher rate than '20.

 

[Lost In FL]

This guy behind Trump's shoulder got a good laugh out of him:

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Dude just made the FBIs Top 10.

 

[sambowieshin]

Hm, shoddy plumbing, maybe some leaks, maybe heat is spotty, a/c doesn't work, vs. literal Venezuelan gangs taking over and making me pay them rent or get f'd up or killed.

Clearly, give me the Venezuelan landlord's every time. I know they'll fix that place right up, Village Idiot.

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/06/nx-s1-5100765/aurora-police-chief-says-theres-no-evidence-that-venezuelan-gang-took-over-apartment

If you guys had any respect for cops the lies would have ended long ago.

 

[Lost In FL]

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None of the data suggest Harris is surging anywhere. Dem voters aren't turning out like '20 and pubs are voting at a higher rate than '20.

You mean she won't get 181Million votes?!?

 

[sambowieshin]

True. It's ran by Democratzuelans.

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/06/nx-s1-5100765/aurora-police-chief-says-theres-no-evidence-that-venezuelan-gang-took-over-apartment

 

[hmt5000]

That's not necessarily true. Iowa will never be the tipping point state. If Iowa indeed goes to Harris, then that most likely means states like PA, WI, MI, and potentially NC go to Harris too. In that case it doesn't really matter.

Like I said, polls are just polls. But this pollster really knows how to poll Iowa and has been incredibly accurate in the past. Her 2020 polls did the same thing as this one, just in reverse. They showed Biden up until the very last poll three days before the election had Trump up by 7 or 8. She was dismissed at the time and everyone said the poll was dead wrong. She was right.

It is true though. She took money out of NC and put it into Virginia because polls were tightening in VA. If Iowa were this close she'd be buying more ads there to try to steal that state. She doesn't have enough ways to 270 to just ignore a possible win.

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

 

[DreadLox]

It is MUCH more than just "managing operations" of the federal government. Again ... "Executive orders are similar to statutes. They are the law of the land, and a violation can mean civil sanctions or criminal penalties."

Civil sanctions or criminal penalties. That is enough for those on the right. You lefties aren't held to the rule of law, so I guess that ish don't matter, huh?

You've invented a bugbear. The Executive Order indicates how existing law is going to be administered. It didn't enact a law. Yes, if you violate a law, there are consequences. Unless, of course, you're Donald Trump and try to overturn an election.

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

She's an actress, a bad one, but nothing more...she just goes off a script. There is no actual kamala Harris

 

[hmt5000]

Lets talk about the economy and inflation some more guys. LOL.

 

[hmt5000]

The US only added 12000 jobs last month. Lets talk about how terrible that number is. We let in more illegals than we created jobs. How long can a country exist doing that?

 

[ukcatz12]

It is true though. She took money out of NC and put it into Virginia because polls were tightening in VA. If Iowa were this close she'd be buying more ads there to try to steal that state. She doesn't have enough ways to 270 to just ignore a possible win.

I don't think you understood my point. If Iowa goes blue the electoral environment at large is such that every other swing state also goes blue. The map would look similar to 2012, you'd just probably swap Florida and Ohio for Arizona and potentially NC. Iowa was deep red for Trump these last two elections. If he's lost that state he's lost every other meaningful state as well.

If Iowa actually goes blue the general election will be a landslide. It's irrelevant compared to other states. If Iowa is less than like +5 for Trump it's a giant problem for him.

 

[DreadLox]

Ah the democrat campaign.
Starts with Joy and ends with a desperate Godwin's law whimper. Good times.

We didn't bring up mass deportations. Even for legal immigrants. He did. You really ought to have the courage of your convictions. You support Trump, don't you? What are we supposed to think if he says something? That he's just funnin'? How many times are we supposed to ignore his Mussolini pose?

After he said he supports an 8 week window for abortions and claimed he was the father of IVF, the right wing really lost the anti-abortion issue. So, what's left beside vengeance and bullying?

 

[Dionysus444]

Trump gets it. Most of what he says is common sense, tried-and-true stuff. Preaching get back to the basics.

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[hmt5000]

Manufacturing in this country would not survive another 4 years like the last 4 years. I'm not sure what democrats plans are.... Just print money and give it to people in apartments who order everything online from China?

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

Nobody wants to eradicate LGBTQ ppl, or, force them to stay in hiding. Most ppl just want them to stop shoving it down everyone’s throats 24/7 & to leave the f**king kids alone. But, they can’t do that.

And, there’s no denying it. Why are Bert & Ernie gay? Or, SpongeBob? Or, any character from a show/movie aimed at TODDLERS?! Why is it so important for drag queens in lingerie to read stories to children? Same ppl who want to mutilate kids & remove them from parents who disapprove.

If they would just stop trying to glorify & push their lifestyles onto everyone else & their kids, they would get very little pushback, IMO. The vast majority don’t care who you sleep with or what you do behind closed doors. We just don’t want to hear about it, perpetually. But, again & most importantly, leave the kids ALONE.

Welp, that pretty much closes that topic down. Bravo.

 

[Blackish_Mamba]

I don't think you understood my point. If Iowa goes blue the electoral environment at large is such that every other swing state also goes blue. The map would look similar to 2012, you'd just probably swap Florida and Ohio for Arizona and potentially NC. Iowa was deep red for Trump these last two elections. If he's lost that state he's lost every other meaningful state as well.

If Iowa actually goes blue the general election will be a landslide. It's irrelevant compared to other states. If Iowa is less than like +5 for Trump it's a giant problem for him.

Lol, Trump isn’t losing Iowa. I know you’re a far left Antifa fascist who supports election fraud. But you Anti-American leftist fascists aren’t winning Iowa. Your election fraud cabal is active in other states. Trump has already beaten Harris, he’s fighting election fraud on Tuesday.

 

[DreadLox]

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The US only added 12000 jobs last month. Lets talk about how terrible that number is. We let in more illegals than we created jobs. How long can a country exist doing that?

One number isn't a summation.

I bet you didn't let Trump's job number in Feb 2019 bother you. Jobs added? 5,000.

I bet you even took his 200,000 lost manufacturing jobs in stride.

 

[ukcatz12]

Lol, Trump isn’t losing Iowa. I know you’re a far left Antifa fascist who supports election fraud. But you Anti-American leftist fascists aren’t winning Iowa. Your election fraud cabal is active in other states. Trump has already beaten Harris, he’s fighting election fraud on Tuesday.

Overreact much? I'm just explaining why Iowa on its own is not relevant. It's a canary in a coal mine, but it's not winning an election on its own. No where did I say I expect Harris to win Iowa.

 

[hmt5000]

I don't think you understood my point. If Iowa goes blue the electoral environment at large is such that every other swing state also goes blue. The map would look similar to 2012, you'd just probably swap Florida and Ohio for Arizona and potentially NC. Iowa was deep red for Trump these last two elections. If he's lost that state he's lost every other meaningful state as well.

If Iowa actually goes blue the general election will be a landslide. It's irrelevant compared to other states. If Iowa is less than like +5 for Trump it's a giant problem for him.

Oh I understand. My point is that neither campaign believes that number. It's an insane outlier. It's not just a little favorable to Kamala... it's outside the realm of believability which is shown by the fact that neither campaign is doing work there. We can look at early voting data and see that pubs are increasing and dems aren't performing as well. Data is data.

 

[augustaky1]

Dude just made the FBIs Top 10.

RIP thread inbound.

 

[OHIO COLONEL]

Dan Quayle was the next best thing to Yogi Berra.

I met Quayle a few times in settings where there weren't a lot of people. Very nice guy.
Like a lot of people, not the same in private as in the public light.

 

[ukcatz12]

Oh I understand. My point is that neither campaign believes that number. It's an insane outlier. It's not just a little favorable to Kamala... it's outside the realm of believability which is shown by the fact that neither campaign is doing work there. We can look at early voting data and see that pubs are increasing and dems aren't performing as well. Data is data.

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Listen, I'm not saying the poll is correct. But that's literally EXACTLY what people said about her Iowa poll in 2016 and 2020. That she was throwing away her reputation by releasing a poll that said Trump was going to win the state easily. She really knows how to poll Iowa. We shall see what happens.

 

[DreadLox]

My soul goes back before the 1980s. Look, if you struggle with sexual identity or whatever, that's fine. Hell, I know people who do--but let's not celebrate it like it's normal.

JD Vance says "What?"

 

[hmt5000]

Listen, I'm not saying the poll is correct. But that's literally EXACTLY what people said about her Iowa poll in 2016 and 2020. That she was throwing away her reputation by releasing a poll that said Trump was going to win the state easily. She really knows how to poll Iowa. We shall see what happens.

Agreed but we can look at early vote totals and voter registration numbers to see that this poll doesn't make any sense. I don't care how good she did in the past. She screwed up something bad to get that result. Iowa is more red now than it was in '20.

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

FCC commissioner rips NBC over Harris' last-minute SNL appearance: 'Plainly designed to evade' the rules

FCC Republican commissioner Brendan Carr ripped "Saturday Night Live" for hosting VP Kamala Harris, but not offering an equal amount of time to former President Trump.

www.foxnews.com

 

[sambowieshin]

Then move there, and stfu about how awful where you.live is. You're retired, right? Move the f out of ky. We won't miss you.

It's tiresome. All you do is bitch and whine like a toddler not getting your way.

I love Kentucky. All my friends and family are here. Love the 4 seasons. Love UK sports. Love the land. Love the culture.
Love the governor. Love Louisville, Lexington, BG, Slade, UNO, New Haven and Bardstown.
No reason to leave the state over your weirdo abortion law with no exceptions for rape/incest.
That will change over time.
Ky needs stronger red flag laws and is too adversarial towards public education.
Other than those issues... I love living here and will never leave.

 

[DreadLox]

Oh I understand. My point is that neither campaign believes that number. It's an insane outlier. It's not just a little favorable to Kamala... it's outside the realm of believability which is shown by the fact that neither campaign is doing work there. We can look at early voting data and see that pubs are increasing and dems aren't performing as well. Data is data.

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Polls quit being reliable with the widespread adoption of cell phones.

 

[screwduke1]

Iran's supreme leader threatens Israel and US with 'a crushing response' over Israeli attack

Any further attacks from either side could engulf the wider Middle East, already teetering over the Israel-Hamas war in the Gaza Strip and Israel’s ground invasion of Lebanon, into a wider regional conflict just head of the U.S. presidential election this Tuesday.

apnews.com

 

[DreadLox]

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Tiffany is out of the shot, whimpering in the corner.

 

[Catman100]

I vacation in blue states as well. Love visiting California, Colorado and Washington State.
It's really just ridiculous that our dumbass politicians have divided Americans so much to even be having this idiotic discussion.
This is the mostly the product of 10 years of Donald Trump and the MAGA movement.... but Dems haven't helped either.

Jesus,,,,maximum TDS!!!!

 

[sambowieshin]

Sources reveal that Kamala accidentally voted for Trump. Team members speculate that her learning disability played a role.

She sure didn't look or sound learning disabled when she tore Trump a new dump hole at the debate.

 

[L.O.D.]

Trump is running even to a post turtle.

Hes not losing Iowa it isn't worth talking g about it was 1 poll and the others had it the other way.

Comes down to the big 3 states Pennsylvania Michigan Wisconsin. Whoever takes 2 of 3 wins.

 

[yes_takeaside]

153 (maybe I'm wrong, but I think there are more numbers than that)

Only one. Good job.

 

[hmt5000]

Maybe if democrats don't want to talk about the economy and inflation with us they can about ww3 with us.... Democrat policies have consequences.

 

[OHIO COLONEL]

Agreed but we can look at early vote totals and voter registration numbers to see that this poll doesn't make any sense. I don't care how good she did in the past. She screwed up something bad to get that result. Iowa is more red now than it was in '20.

I remember watching Seth Keshel on someone's YouTube channel (Spicer, Turley ?) talking about how Iowa is basically the same as Wisconsin. When one goes one way...the other does as well. So I was thinking that this Iowa poll was put out to try to influence Wisconsin voters, etc. So I googled him and found this. Like I said the other day...don't know how good he is....if he's been right/wrong in the past...but he's a wealth of information.

;The methodology for the Iowa poll is atrocious. It sounds like she polled the Lincoln Project or a women’s psych ward, because “protecting our democracy” and “abortion” came well ahead of immigration and the economy as priority issues among those polled. '

My Take on "Harris +3 in Iowa" and the Battle for Narrative

Topic: Perspective

substack.com

 

[screwduke1]

This election season has been so insane. Ignoring that Kamala had a former prostitute who used to drug and rob men, campaigning for her, we’ve had

- Two assassination attempts
- Crooked courts trying to imprison opponent
- Sitting President calling half the population “garbage.”
- President not seeking re-election and then never giving an official reason why.
- Candidate being chosen despite zero votes
- Hurricanes a month before the election

What else am I forgetting?

I'm surprised there wasn't a George Floyd kind of incident this year.