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the further we get into this thing, the more apparent it is that Liz Warren could've won at least the nomination if not the whole thing.
Last I saw, we were second in the world in spending per pupil, and 28th in results. With a track record like that, not sure I understand your reticence about letting the government take over anything....
These Democratic candidates are a complete disaster. Agree, if a Republican cannot win this election they may never win again.
Hillary is controlling this debate. She continues to go beyond her time limit with little opposition by Cooper. Every question they ask the others about what she had possibly done wrong were not answered directly to or about her. It has been almost all about what they would do not what she had done. They are either too scared or this is just a mock debate to set her up for her run. What a joke of a debate. Democrats should be ashamed.
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The Democratic Party, the party of inclusion, has only old, white candidates to choose from.
One question I found very hypocritical was ask to Chaffee about a vote he had that was against the way he stood now and he said something to the effect that he was new and his father had just died. Then Anderson said, "You mean you voted for something you knew nothing about?" What? Seriously? Obama Care and the Democratic party ring a bell?
I literally laughed out loud when Bernie said America was tired of the email scandal, and shook hands with Hillary. THIS WAS THE COMPETITION? I posted earlier about the "other" 3 candidates basically heaping compliments on her. I was right, just had the wrong 3 candidates.
Howd this guy even get on the stage? That alone should disqualify him from running anything of importance.
Its a sham. Basically a coronation. This was a done deal in 2008, which was why she eventually conceded then.
Howd this guy even get on the stage? That alone should disqualify him from running anything of importance.
Its a sham. Basically a coronation. This was a done deal in 2008, which was why she eventually conceded then.
OK, Willy: would you?
Do I get an unlimited Hillaryphone and Hillarycare?
So. How were the dems debate? Shitty I bet
It's very rare for the same party to win three times in a row. Hasn't happened since Reagan/Reagan/Bush. However, we've never seen the media like it is today or seen brainwashing like we see with today's youth.
BTW, they really need to up the voting age to 25.
I watched baseball, according to my media feeds HRC mopped up. Probably good for the GOP if it keeps Biden out. I imagine quite a few people saw Sanders for the first time and wondered what in the hell their friend or coworker was so enamored with.
Did anyone even mention "FBI"?
Cooper has been involved with the Clinton Global Slush Initiative.
Did anyone even mention "FBI"?
Cooper has been involved with the Clinton Global Slush Initiative.
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Bernie is a complete fool for defending Clinton last night. Makes me question if he is really serious about winning. For all of our sakes, I hope he is not.
Rarely agree with anything Trump says but he is likely right on this:
The Hill @thehill 21m21 minutes ago
Trump: Fed keeping the interest rate down to protect Obama http://hill.cm/VmOEr6D
The Hill @thehill 21m21 minutes ago
Trump: Fed keeping the interest rate down to protect Obama http://hill.cm/VmOEr6D
Guess this author of this quote:
“We do not think the comprehensive healthcare benefits should be extended to those who are undocumented workers and illegal aliens. We do not want to do anything to encourage more illegal immigration into this country. We know now that too many people come in for medical care, as it is. We certainly don’t want them having the same benefits that American citizens are entitled to have,”
“We do not think the comprehensive healthcare benefits should be extended to those who are undocumented workers and illegal aliens. We do not want to do anything to encourage more illegal immigration into this country. We know now that too many people come in for medical care, as it is. We certainly don’t want them having the same benefits that American citizens are entitled to have,”
Good read as a follow-up to what we have been talking about on here. Here in KY one of the co-ops went belly-up last week that had 51k participants:
In a new working paper, Wharton economists Mark Pauly, Adam Levine and Scott Harrington estimate how much better or worse off the non-poor uninsured are under ObamaCare. They measure the cost of the plans, the benefits of consuming pre-paid medical care and out-of-pocket payments without obtaining coverage. They conclude that, “even under the most optimistic assumptions,” half of the formerly uninsured take on both a higher financial burden and lower welfare, and on net “average welfare for the uninsured population would be estimated to decline after the ACA if all members of that population obtained coverage.”
http://www.wsj.com/article_email/obamacare-bear-market-1444778110-lMyQjAxMTE1NDEyNDkxOTQ2Wj
In other words, ObamaCare harms the people it is supposed to help. This is not a prescription for a healthy, durable program.
Markets have also been disrupted by a cascade of failures among the ObamaCare co-ops that were intended as a liberal insurance utopia. These plans were seeded with billions of dollars in federal start-up
loans and were supposed to work like the credit unions or the electric collectives of the Depression era. No profits were allowed, advertising to introduce new products was restricted and industry executives were barred from management. As it turns out, attempting to outlaw expertise and incentives tends not to produce good results.
The implicit Fannie Med-type taxpayer backstop let the co-ops gamble on undercutting their competitors to steal market share, pricing premiums well below cost. They figured that any mistakes could be papered over with a bailout from Uncle Sugar.
Among the 23 co-ops chartered for 2013, four have already gone insolvent in Louisiana, Nevada, Iowa and New York. Another 11 have received warning letters from the feds putting them on “enhanced oversight” financial probation until their balance sheets improve. More are likely to fold in the coming months.
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The Kentucky Health Cooperative, the second largest U.S. co-op, is also insolvent and being wound down at year’s end. The plan scooped up three of four enrollees on the Kentucky exchange by running a premium-to-expense ratio of 158% in 2014—that is, for every $1 in premiums it collected it incurred a 58-cent loss. That’s $146.5 million down the tubes.
In a new working paper, Wharton economists Mark Pauly, Adam Levine and Scott Harrington estimate how much better or worse off the non-poor uninsured are under ObamaCare. They measure the cost of the plans, the benefits of consuming pre-paid medical care and out-of-pocket payments without obtaining coverage. They conclude that, “even under the most optimistic assumptions,” half of the formerly uninsured take on both a higher financial burden and lower welfare, and on net “average welfare for the uninsured population would be estimated to decline after the ACA if all members of that population obtained coverage.”
http://www.wsj.com/article_email/obamacare-bear-market-1444778110-lMyQjAxMTE1NDEyNDkxOTQ2Wj
In other words, ObamaCare harms the people it is supposed to help. This is not a prescription for a healthy, durable program.
Markets have also been disrupted by a cascade of failures among the ObamaCare co-ops that were intended as a liberal insurance utopia. These plans were seeded with billions of dollars in federal start-up
loans and were supposed to work like the credit unions or the electric collectives of the Depression era. No profits were allowed, advertising to introduce new products was restricted and industry executives were barred from management. As it turns out, attempting to outlaw expertise and incentives tends not to produce good results.
The implicit Fannie Med-type taxpayer backstop let the co-ops gamble on undercutting their competitors to steal market share, pricing premiums well below cost. They figured that any mistakes could be papered over with a bailout from Uncle Sugar.
Among the 23 co-ops chartered for 2013, four have already gone insolvent in Louisiana, Nevada, Iowa and New York. Another 11 have received warning letters from the feds putting them on “enhanced oversight” financial probation until their balance sheets improve. More are likely to fold in the coming months.
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The Kentucky Health Cooperative, the second largest U.S. co-op, is also insolvent and being wound down at year’s end. The plan scooped up three of four enrollees on the Kentucky exchange by running a premium-to-expense ratio of 158% in 2014—that is, for every $1 in premiums it collected it incurred a 58-cent loss. That’s $146.5 million down the tubes.
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We can start by decoupling your employer from your healthcare tax benefit. I have a great job, and I functionally have 2 healthcare options. In a market economy (lol), that's appalling. There is no competition because your employer controls the few options you have. Why don't we just give company dollars to spend at the company store in the company town while we're at it? Thanks, WWII wage freezes and inertia. IIRC, McCain addressed this issue a bit in 2008, and there's a couple of think tanks that have proposed reform, but how this is not front and center of any healthcare reform discussion is baffling. We're literally using the tax code to stifle competition and creating unintended consequences like Hobby Lobby (which is a legal, moral, and intellectual travesty).
Or, if the tax issue is fixed, we can go with a good ole' 1) I work, 2) employer pays me, and 3) I purchase my own health insurance from a slew of competing (good for consumers!) options.
Even though I should never let a story of government incompetence surprise me, it still happens often. Other than defending our borders, theres nothing the government does that turns out well.
How can anyone with a brain cell think having a business with that revenue to expense ratio can possibly work?
Great idea actually. Too bad it must not poll well with the dumb american voting segment (99%).
I thought the most significant point of the night was when the Chipmunk declared that she never made a decision on Keystone until she made a decision on Keystone.
It made me think "well what IS a decision?" I'll bet the answer depends on what the definition of "is" is.
It made me think "well what IS a decision?" I'll bet the answer depends on what the definition of "is" is.
The sign of a real strong candidate is always good hashtagging.
#feelthebern
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to ingest copius amounts of drugs and travel around from music festival to music festival. Steady jobs are for chumps.
So it is creepy, per politico reporter, for Webb to be happy he wasn't killed. Twitter has exposed more bias in sports and political media than anything else in history.
Kenneth P. Vogel @kenvogel 34m34 minutes ago
Re-upping @JimWebbUSA's creepy smirk when describing enemy soldier apparently killed after targeting him.
Kenneth P. Vogel @kenvogel 34m34 minutes ago
Re-upping @JimWebbUSA's creepy smirk when describing enemy soldier apparently killed after targeting him.
That Webb moment was admittedly awkward. Cooper asked about enemies the candidates made during their political career and Webb apparently had a 'Nam-style flashback on national television.
Is it a stretch to think shes the most corrupt, dishonest presidential candidate in modern history?
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