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[Dionysus444]

Second generation always have it easier but that wasn't at issue. Plus you can't take a genius and extrapolate it to an entire group. Hes no more analogous than saying LeBron is representative of all blacks.

The first generation indian came here with nothing. They passed things down and passed them on. More came because of demand for their labor but they didn't just waltz over.

On the whole, much worse off than blacks yet do much better. It's because their culture is about family, accountability, and hard work. They refused victim culture. You can look within each race, and people practicing these mantras are by and large successful.

Change the culture. Change the future.

No. Many come here with plenty of opportunity, like Vivek's parents. You compare Vivek to LeBron like it's the same thing. It very much isn't and you know that. Vivek comes from and is a wealthy elite(the exact people you claim to hate btw). LeBron's from a poor single mom in OH. The Black equivalent of Brahmins don't exist. Because any time they tried we did things like firebomb Black Wall Street back to the Stone Age in the Tulsa Race Massacre. LeBron succeeded despite his circumstances. Vivek succeeded because of his.

 

[Dionysus444]

Because his short list at the time happened to consist of women? He just hadn't decided which one yet?

Every single one? Yeah right. Roughly around half of them would be if it wasn't DEI.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

There are already plenty.

Oh yeah? What are “plenty?”

Are there “plenty” of Asian faculty? “Plenty” of black faculty? “Plenty” of gay faculty? “Plenty” of Jewish faculty?

Can we close the DEI department because we have “plenty?”

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Y'all can be the lone voice lost in the chorus now, instead of the lead soloist for once. Pendulum swing, what goes around comes around, yada yada. Sucks being a minority in America, doesn't it?

Nothing wrong with being a minority if opportunities are equal. But, DEI manipulates opportunities so that things are not equal, but so that things meet some preference.

But, your response demonstrates you were snagged by your own limited perspective and you prefer to keep your head in the sand.

Thanks for playing.

 

[SDC888]

No. Many come here with plenty of opportunity, like Vivek's parents. You compare Vivek to LeBron like it's the same thing. It very much isn't and you know that. Vivek comes from and is a wealthy elite(the exact people you claim to hate btw). LeBron's from a poor single mom in OH. The Black equivalent of Brahmins don't exist. Because any time they tried we did things like firebomb Black Wall Street back to the Stone Age in the Tulsa Race Massacre. LeBron succeeded despite his circumstances. Vivek succeeded because of his.

No.

 

[SDC888]

Every single one? Yeah right. Roughly around half of them would be if it wasn't DEI.

No.

 

[cole854]

LeBron succeeded despite his circumstances. Vivek succeeded because of his.

Bullshit. Lebron was given numerous opportunities because of his basketball skills...which he worked extremely hard at and succeeded.

You think Vivek was naturally smart or spent numerous hours perfecting his trade to achieve his wealth?

Their economic backgrounds may have been different, but both were given many open doors to walk through as a result of their hard work at their chosen profession.

 

[Dionysus444]

Trump has to be the bad guy for you. He has to be everything the left wants you to believe about him because if he isn’t you have to come to the realization of just how big of a dipshit you really are for believing it in the first place so better for you to remain in denial.

Here's me saying his comments weren't how people would take them. Literally the night he said it:

They'll say he just meant fixing the country.

So guess what! Take all your assumptions and shove 'em! I know the truth of what Trump is. Far better than you do.

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

Dude you're just flat wrong. Asian immigrants have overall much higher education and income levels than other immigrant groups. That's even why y'all specify "Asian" or "Indian" for this conversation, as those are some of the few classifications you can point to that fit your narrative. "Indians" are literally the wealthiest immigrants of all, and if you break "Asian" down into all of its composite countries hardly any of them, basically only the rich ones, conform. Check out how Burmese or Cambodian immigrants are doing in the good ol' US of A.

Before they come here or after?
Last I checked one had to work hard to earn stem degrees etc. We get it. You hate meritocracy.

 

[SDC888]

Here's me saying his comments weren't how people would take them. Literally the night he said it:

So guess what! Take all your assumptions and shove 'em! I know the truth of what Trump is. Far better than you do.

No.

 

[Wildcats1st]

The whole “JD Vance and Donald Trump are weird” thing makes me think the democrats know they have the steal locked up already and are just taunting everyone.

Yeah, the straight married men with children who love them are “weird.”

The only demographic of voter that message is going to resonate with are the childless cat ladies who already hate Trump and Vance (that includes the democrat men who are childless cat ladies).

Making excuses for losing 99 days before the election is why the republicans continue to underperform

 

[Dionysus444]

And who was and is currently responsible for that continued Socioeconomic strife? again, how many generations removed do you have to get before you can no longer use that as a crutch? 9-10? I mean they're up to what, about 7-8 generations removed from slavery now? Who is responsible for their Socioeconomic plight now, today or over the past 60 years even? Who?

Us. America. Hundreds of years of history. I don't understand what you don't get. You attribute these things to "culture", but act like those cultures all just sprang into existence miraculously one day. They're the product of American society. They are American society. Hundreds of years of race relations from the minute they were loaded up on the boats until now. This is us. This is America.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

THEY WERE SLAVES THOUGH. Like what about that do you not get? They had NOTHING. Vivek's parents went from skimming the top of Indian society to skimming the even bigger pool of ours. Black people were stuck drowning on the bottom the entire time. Nothing about the situations is similar.

India had 18 million slaves as of 2016.
How many African Americans are slaves today?

https://asiasociety.org/blog/asia/why-india-has-so-many-slaves

 

[Bill Cosby]

Making excuses for losing 99 days before the election is why the republicans continue to underperform

Yes, that post was definitely an excuse and not me pointing out how goddam stupid the democrat messaging is.

 

[Dionysus444]

Bullshit. Lebron was given numerous opportunities because of his basketball skills...which he worked extremely hard at and succeeded.

You think Vivek was naturally smart or spent numerous hours perfecting his trade to achieve his wealth?

Their economic backgrounds may have been different, but both were given many open doors to walk through as a result of their hard work at their chosen profession.

Many, many people work "extremely hard" and don't have Vivek's wealth. It isn't just about hard work in America. 'It's not what you know, it's who you know,' as the old adage goes. You know that. You complain about it constantly when it's people you don't like. Democrats.

 

[Dionysus444]

Before they come here or after?

Both. I was mostly talking about before, though. His dad's degree is from the National Institue of Technology Calicut. Is that an American institution?

We get it. You hate meritocracy.

I'm pretty pro-meritocracy. Everyone deserves a stable platform to succeed from. A level playing field. Which is nowhere close to what we have now.

 

[SDC888]

Many, many people work "extremely hard" and don't have Vivek's wealth. It isn't just about hard work in America. 'It's not what you know, it's who you know,' as the old adage goes. You know that. You complain about it constantly when it's people you don't like. Democrats.

It's not possible for many people to have Vivek's wealth.

 

[Dionysus444]

It's not possible for many people to have Vivek's wealth.

It'd be possible for many more to live a lot better if he wasn't hoarding it. It's a gross abomination that it's even possible for him.

 

[SDC888]

It'd be possible for many more to live a lot better if he wasn't hoarding it. It's a gross abomination that's possible for him.

No.

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

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One would think they would be more concerned with their own totalitarian anti-free speech shithole right about now.

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

It'd be possible for many more to live a lot better if he wasn't hoarding it. It's a gross abomination that it's even possible for him.

Wealth is only a zero-sum game in the mind of a jealous child.

 

[Dionysus444]

India had 18 million slaves as of 2016.
How many African Americans are slaves today?

https://asiasociety.org/blog/asia/why-india-has-so-many-slaves

So why would you support a guy who's the product of that, in ideology and culture? Why do you think he's such a charismatic communicator of MAGA ideas? Conservatism is about stratification and he's pitching you regressive ideas about undesirables you just eat up with a spoon. Blame everything on the scapegoats; just replace 'untouchables' with 'illegals' and all the rhetoric lines up in a jiff.

 

[SDC888]

Wealth is only a zero-sum game in the mind of a jealous child.

There's an obvious error in reasoning to each of "his" arguments.

His entire worldview is predicated on such errors. That... and lies.

 

[Cold Stout Beer]

We should start a separate thread for anyone that wants to go back and forth with Dion, Platinum, Sam, etc. It would sure make it easier to go through pertinent stuff !

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

Both. I was mostly talking about before, though. His dad's degree is from the National Institue of Technology Calicut. Is that an American institution?

I'm pretty pro-meritocracy. Everyone deserves a stable platform to succeed from. A level playing field. Which is nowhere close to what we have now.

And in what world is Vivek's family representative of most Indians who come to America for opportunity?
I mean they still have leper colonies in India for crying out loud. Acting like most of them come here at some imagined advantage is just childishly stupid.

 

[vhcat70]

Hes been on fire the last 24 hours. Melted Kamala. He did bring up again ballot harvesting and said if states have it, Republicans need to do it too.

I thought that's the Pubs plan already for this year. No?

 

[DrH. Lecter]

No. Many come here with plenty of opportunity, like Vivek's parents. You compare Vivek to LeBron like it's the same thing. It very much isn't and you know that. Vivek comes from and is a wealthy elite(the exact people you claim to hate btw). LeBron's from a poor single mom in OH. The Black equivalent of Brahmins don't exist. Because any time they tried we did things like firebomb Black Wall Street back to the Stone Age in the Tulsa Race Massacre. LeBron succeeded despite his circumstances. Vivek succeeded because of his.

Tried what? Raping a white girl? Assembling an armed mob to break the rapist out of jail? We lived through 500+ of these type riots in 2020. It seems that "they" have a long history of firebombing their own neighborhoods back to the stone age. Nothing new.

 

[Phil_The_Music]

We should start a seperate thread or anyone that wants to go back and forth with Dion, Platinum, Sam, etc. It would sure make it easier to go through pertinent stuff !

Would love that. Unfortunately I've had to put them and everyone who argues with them on ignore just to make the thread tolerable. There's some posters I like but they just can't resist arguing with those buffoons so.... Yeah.

 

[DrH. Lecter]

So why would you support a guy who's the product of that, in ideology and culture?

You mean like Obama? Clinton? Harris? Sanders? A product of that?

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

So why would you support a guy who's the product of that, in ideology and culture? Why do you think he's such a charismatic communicator of MAGA ideas? Conservatism is about stratification and he's pitching you regressive ideas about undesirables you just eat up with a spoon. Blame everything on the scapegoats; just replace 'untouchables' with 'illegals' and all the rhetoric lines up in a jiff.

There is slavery in Africa today as well. Juxtapose that as well, bigot.

 

[DrH. Lecter]

Both. I was mostly talking about before, though. His dad's degree is from the National Institue of Technology Calicut. Is that an American institution?

I'm pretty pro-meritocracy. Everyone deserves a stable platform to succeed from. A level playing field. Which is nowhere close to what we have now.

Always the view expressed by life's losers. Always someone else's fault. Some invisible hand holding them back.

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

You mean like Obama? Clinton? Harris? Sanders? A product of that?

Notice how the more you corner him, the more absurd he gets?

 

[vhcat70]

When the SCOTUS was dominated by leftist activists, Biden was fine with the Court. The Dems always want to change government and protocol when it serves them to make changes, but then cry when their changes are used by the GOP.

You're talking 1970's & earlier, right? Most by far have been appointed by Pubs since then.

 

[DrH. Lecter]

There is slavery in Africa today as well. Juxtapose that as well, bigot.

As long as it isn't a white guy holding the slaves its okey-dokey.

 

[DrH. Lecter]

Notice how the more you corner him, the more absurd he gets?

Yep. He now brings up some mostly peaceful riot in Tulsa from 100+ years ago...while ignoring exactly the same thing that happened 500+ times just 3+ years ago. But it allows him to do what he does....chatGPT replies where he can virtue signal about obscure events where some people did something.

 

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[vhcat70]

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Pubs should tie Congress term limits to a SC term limits Constitutional Amendment. Biden should be asked if he favors that too.

That said, I'm for SCJ term limits. Candidates today are picked for being young, not for being the best minds. Thomas is great, but he's been on Court 33+ years. Term limits would help assure the best minds are picked by both parties since they'll time limit out before they want to retire/give up power (They do stay for the power, not because they know they're the best.). I favor more like 20-25 years. What's wrong with it? Shouldn't apply to sitting justices by me.

 

[Cold Stout Beer]

The Harris campaign slithers down into the gutter and joins tik tok to brainwash youngters.

 

[SDC888]

THat's what "It'd be possible for many more to live a lot better if he wasn't hoarding it" invariably looks like in practice.