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If there’s one thing this Roberts SCOTUS is known for, it’s issuing needless opinions on topics everyone already knows the answer to. Good call.
False. When you know as we do that all of these accusations are politically motivated then this ruling helps stave off the corrupt attempts at politically jailing the opposition. It is just your adherence to this third world communistic style of governance that shows what kind of evil and terrible person you are.
These are the same justices that attempt to uphold Roe for political and social reasons. Both published dissents are premised upon fear. Jackson claims that America has traditionally relied on the law to keep its presidents in line. Really?
These are the same politicals who suppressed a rape victim’s claims with regard to Bill Clinton. Do they want to see Biden charged with reckless homicide as it relates to the withdrawal from Afghanistan? Obama charged with killing citizens via drone attack without due process?
If you take off the partisan hat, wouldn't you want those things to happen? Just as a neutral American?
Show me that quote or you will be called a liar. Never mind...you lie at every turn. You must be a dim.
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So, she is the SCOTUS all by herself? I still did not see the word "King" in there. Over dramatize with lies much? Yes, yes you do.
You didn't read the opinion tho, did you
You mean the same Sotomayer that said she can't sleep when a ruling does not go for the left? Hmmmm, sounds dictatorial to me.
You suck at this.
Let me put the partisan hat on so that I may take it off, as requested.
Okay, done.
No. Presidents have to make tough discretionary decisions while wielding their executive constitutional power and should not be motivated by how the next administration or some politically bent prosecutor is going to criminally charge them.
In fact, if you want me to agree with you about Biden and Obama, I have to wear a partisan hat.
Haha...you can't be this stupid.
BTW, didn't this case come about bc the current president prosecuted his political rival during an election year
Remember, that time @Dionysus444 hero FDR interned Japanese Americans...since we're talking about ppl playing king...yet you guys are believing a dissent where a lunatic talls about seal team 6 bc she must gather her legal knowledge from podcasts
And here's the obvious thing their brains cannot comprehend:
@sammysdad05 why isn't biden being prosecuted for murder and negligence for the death of US soldiers for the Afghan withdrawal.? You just said no immunity!!!!
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The USSC ruling is one of those where when looked at in terms of the present conditions with Donald Trump that many on the right may celebrate, but where 10 years from now when a Democrat is in power and possibly nefarious that they will deeply regret. I don't see how it's a good thing for the country to admonish the actions of a President by simply deeming them as an "official" action.
Over the past 200+ years, we’ve never seen the type of lawfare being waged against political opponents as we’ve seen by the Biden admin. With the new, unprecedented targeting of political rivals, it’s important presidents are able to take the actions they feel are best for the country, without fear the next corrupt administration will imprison them.
Makes sense, coming from the "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose voters, ok?" crowd.
I just thought the reaction was funny. We all should know by now even if the dems lose, it will be a tight one thanks to cheating.
If you think that an official act of presidency …
You who love to preach about the separation of powers when you think it serves your desired political end.
Let’s assume everything you typed is correct. You’re arguing that to let limit presidential powers, presidents must have unfettered power. This power does not just apply to the next president.
It’s completely contradictory.
LOL - “ten years from now” 🤪
Hilarious to see the outrage about trump getting the same absolute immunity as every other president. What did they think would happen?
This was only ever the correct application of law. However the real issues left to be decided: which of the complained acts are official acts?
This won't be the last time scotus sees this issue with trump imo.
This was only ever the correct application of law. However the real issues left to be decided: which of the complained acts are official acts?
This won't be the last time scotus sees this issue with trump imo.
Okay, assume it’s today. Away from being “cute”, Joe Biden now has ability to make any “official” decision or action w/ out accountability. It’s an indefensible ruling only supported because of litigation against Donald Trump. Very short sighted
The point is even Christians would be in agreement with not having people like shinsplints “teach” the Bible. The butchery of his out of context interpretation of the story of Lot is a great example of why.
The 10 Commandments on the other hand have significant historical value concerning US history.
Has nothing to do with “owning the libs” as much as you’d like for it to. You guys really aren’t that special.
Obama authorized the drone striking of many targets, including American citizens (without trial) in the name of protecting the US from terrorism.
I am fine with him not being charged with murder.
Impeachment is on the table - which would likely label any impeached action as (unofficial) - which then again puts a President in jeopardy for legal issues.
The panic from high ranking liberals is manufactured fear-mongering as they believe their supporters are ignorant.
I am fine with him not being charged with murder.
Impeachment is on the table - which would likely label any impeached action as (unofficial) - which then again puts a President in jeopardy for legal issues.
The panic from high ranking liberals is manufactured fear-mongering as they believe their supporters are ignorant.
Except that’s what happened with Lot so what’s the point? Again who is good enough to teach the Bible in public schools. Again, we’re talking public schools.
Do you think Trump should be able to have his DOJ and friendly courts imprison Joe Biden for his administrations criminal negligence at the border? (As an example)
There are plenty of things the Biden admin has done that are far less of a stretch to get to criminality than making a constitutional argument about electors.
Of course Trump should not be able to imprison Joe Biden unless Joe Biden broke the law and was found guilty of breaking the law by a jury.
However, with this ruling, now both actions are codified as being able to take place legally and lawfully as long as deemed an official decision. Not even via jury decision but by direct action from the executive at the behest of the judicial branch. So, if Joe Biden is in fact targeting political rivals, now it's fully with in his power to do so if deemed official.
And this applies both now and to every future President.
You merely celebrate it because as Trump supporter, it potentially absconds him from criminal proceedings involving his recorded phone calls to the Georgia prosecutor to "find votes". Essentially, any potential action for accountability is rolled into executive privilege (all because Donald Trump could potentially be found guilty by a jury of peers). No one should celebrate this and the only reason it is celebrated is because it may help the Trump campaign.
Let me simplify it for you. If your goal is to limit Presidential corruption (despite your assumption of conspiracy), the act of removing accountability for the President quite literally is the inverse of your end-goal. It's mental gymnastics.
Well considering he's the sock account of PLAT/J EDGAR HOOVER it's expected.
Don’t forget his fake elector scheme, etc. The list goes on. He can just say it’s official and he’s good. Of all people to give immunity to, Trump is the last person that should get it. Despite what he’s convinced you guys of, no one cares less about his country, his family or anything else not named Donald Trump. His sole existence is to make himself happy, make more money, and get more power no matter how he has to get it. Just look at his past. It’s littered with crazy incidents and examples that drove lawsuits and other legal actions. His family hates him. He will step on anyone or any rule that gets in his way. He’s the last person that needs immunity. But congrats on owning the libs.
Sorry for all the hyperbole.
First off, you’re completely misreading the case based on the analysis I’ve read, though I’ve admittedly not read the case yet. Presidents can’t just unilaterally deem all actions official. The case has been remanded to build the record and make those determinations.
Second, the “find votes” example is a perfect example why presidents need limited immunity. It’s clear to any objective observer, in context, Trump was talking about fraud in Georgia, how there were hundreds of thousands of fraudulent ballots, but they only need to find 11,000 of them to prove the election was impacted. Anyone with a brain knows what he was talking about in context. You want him criminally prosecuted by his political opponents. Whether discussing protecting the integrity of our elections is within the scope of a president’s official duties is TBD.
President Donald Trump: OK, whatever. It’s a disaster. It’s a disaster. Look, here’s the problem. We can go through signature verification and we’ll find hundreds of thousands of signatures if you let us do it. And the only way you can do it, as you know, is to go to the past. But you didn’t do that in Cobb County. You just looked at one page compared to another. The only way you can do a signature verification is go from the one that signed it in on November whatever, recently, and compare it to two years ago, four years ago, six years ago, you know, or even one. And you’ll find that you have many different signatures.
But in, in Fulton, where they dumped ballots, you will find that you have many that aren’t even signed, and you have many that are forgeries. OK? You know that. You know that. You have no doubt about that. And you will find you will be at eleven thousand seven seventy nine within minutes, because Fulton County is totally corrupt and so is she, totally corrupt. And they’re going around playing you and laughing at you behind your back, Brad, whether you know it or not, they’re laughing at you and you’ve taken a state that’s a Republican state and you’ve made it almost impossible for a Republican to win because of cheating, because they cheated like nobody’s ever cheated before.
Accountability is not removed. There’s the impeachment process, as well as criminal prosecution for acts that are outside the scope of official duties. Criminal prosecution for constitutionally mandated of official acts is no longer on the table.
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