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How will they rule ??!

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    Votes: 41 82.0%
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Never forget. Never ever forgive.

And if they try that shit again, wellll, don't comply is as far as I will say here.

Personally, I'd like to see every bureaucrat that ordered mask mandates be required to wear one for life, for example. Sam included.
 
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One thing I've learned about some of the folks on the Political Thread; they either don't need much sleep, are retired (like me), or work second shift. LOL
Not on my early morning subbing or grandkid school shuttle driver schedule.
Summer is bed at 2 am...breakfast at 9 am. My preferred circadian rhythm.
Gotta make a midnight White Castle run soon. Madman hours! 😂
 
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Never forget. Never ever forgive.

And if they try that shit again, wellll, don't comply is as far as I will say here.

Personally, I'd like to see every bureaucrat that ordered mask mandates be required to wear one for life, for example. Sam included.
Still think the mask was a small price to pay during a pandemic. Firing people for vax refusal is where I have had a change in viewpoint.
 
I posted quite a bit on here recently about my changed belief that vaccine mandates may have been too intrusive on bodily autonomy in some instances. If I say the government can force a vaccine but can't force a

I am being hypocritical. Can't have it both ways.
You may wanna reconsider your stance as well to avoid the same hypocrisy.
I also have never said I am for abortions... I'm just not for the government making that decision for a woman or child. Best left to them, their doc and their God.
Leave me out of it.

Look, I semi agree with that, leave the government out, but I just can't condone what I consider killing a undeveloped innocent human with a unique fingerprint, DNA all that.

But, yes, that is between a woman, the man THAT IMPREGANTED HER, and their God.

I hate the idea that if a man wants an abortion, woman says nope, he's on the hook for 18 years.

But if she wants the opposite, he's shit out of luck.

That's just wrong. In that case, she should waive any future child support from him, and raise it herself.

And if she doesn't want it, but he does, shouldn't there be a certain fairness there? Can't he raise it alone with no support from her? (I get the damage done to the body in childbirth, etc, etc, and I am not talking about life or death health type issues for the mother.)

Disclaimer, I have no children (that I know about,lol), nor ever had a woman abort my child (that I know about, lol)
 
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In the meantime, if I cared that passionately about it, I would form/join/support a grassroots organization that provides an all expenses paid trip to Ohio to get one. And then, I'd work my ass off to root out the cancer in our KY legislature, that refused to listen to the will of voters, concerning this issue.
 
I hate the idea that if a man wants an abortion, woman says nope, he's on the hook for 18 years.

But if she wants the opposite, he's shit out of luck.

That's just wrong. In that case, she should waive any future child support from him, and raise it herself.

And if she doesn't want it, but he does, shouldn't there be a certain fairness there? Can't he raise it alone with no support from her? (I get the damage done to the body in childbirth, etc, etc, and I am not talking about life or death health type issues for the mother.)

That's a BINGO.

He doesn't want to have a child, but she does, and chooses ON HER OWN, to have it and raise it, she can do it w/o child support.

It might be YOUR body, but it's MY wallet.

"B***** swore to me that she was on the pill"
 
Guess what I'm saying is, I don't believe it's merely between a woman and her Dr, since the law gets involved later on.

Leave God and that bullshit out of it.

It's still nature and biology.

Even if 'God's and Jesus, Mohammad, Queztlcoal, Odin and all the holy spirits' all combined to what that started it all.
Or that mysterious firecracker big bang theory silliness. Who put together (created) the shit that went 'BANG'?
 
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Never forget. Never ever forgive.

And if they try that shit again, wellll, don't comply is as far as I will say here.

Personally, I'd like to see every bureaucrat that ordered mask mandates be required to wear one for life, for example. Sam included.
I'd like to see Fauci have a Hannibal Lecter leather job sewn permanently onto his stupid face. With a ball gag underneath, so it would shut him up for good.
 
Still think the mask was a small price to pay during a pandemic. Firing people for vax refusal is where I have had a change in viewpoint.

If they were effective, I might be inclined to agree, but the evidence suggests that it actually made it worse, because everyone was always ****ing with them, and touching doorknobs, phones, grocery baskets, produce, etc.

The surefire way to excaberate the spread of a virus is constantly ****ing with your face, and then TOUCHING stuff. And the masks, as I said, made people **** with their FACE more. LOL
 
Still think the mask was a small price to pay during a pandemic. Firing people for vax refusal is where I have had a change in viewpoint.

Thank God you're finally making a sliver of progress.

Nonetheless.

Never forget, never forgive.

You weren't paying attention, and parroted every msnbc talking point, and that is inexcusable.
And, at the time, also fox, or whatever

Anyone intelligent looked at that cruise ship, early on Feb 20, saw the numbers and said this is horseshit.

A boat in the ocean, a perfect lab for the basically original Wuhan strain, 700 got it, 7 died, all over 70. Small sample, granted, BUT we shut down the world for ****ING THAT?

And those numbers stayed pretty consistent WORLDWIDE for 4 years despite as much manipulation of dying with covid, vs from, covid as possible, including vaccines, masks, or not.

See, Sweden,. And STFU.

VILLAGE IDIOT.
 
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Still think the mask was a small price to pay during a pandemic. Firing people for vax refusal is where I have had a change in viewpoint.

A small price to you, perhaps.

How about young children, learning speech and facial empathy, body language cues, etc, emotional shit society has relied upon for 10's of thousands of years?

Let's just toss all that aside because Sam got scared of the flu because the media told him to be.
 
Never forget. Never ever forgive.

And if they try that shit again, wellll, don't comply is as far as I will say here.

Personally, I'd like to see every bureaucrat that ordered mask mandates be required to wear one for life, for example. Sam included.
I was always with you on the anti-mandates train. Have years of posting to support that. Even suggested it could be a rare moment of bipartisanship to work on the creation of bodily autonomy rights. But all that being said, temporary measures are occasionally needed, and some of the covid measures were examples of that working. We aren't all masked and 6 feet apart today. I understand the argument it was silly to do then too, but honestly the government freely giving up temporary emergency powers is a great example of the system working. The alternative is using those temporary powers as a power to grab to make them permanent, which has happened with oppressive governments all too often throughout history.
 
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I'd like to see Fauci have a Hannibal Lecter leather job sewn permanently onto his stupid face. With a ball gag underneath, so it would shut him up for good.

Yes please. At the very minimum. For that one in particular. Pissant little 5 foot asshole that tasted power, loved it, couldn't make enough magazine photo shoots, comparing himself to Brad Pitt, etc.
Not to mention his utter dishonesty throughout.

Dante didn't imagine a level of hell that one should go to.
 
It's still nature and biology.

Even if 'God's and Jesus, Mohammad, Queztlcoal, Odin and all the holy spirits' all combined to what that started it all.
Or that mysterious firecracker big bang theory silliness. Who put together (created) the shit that went 'BANG'?
Same thing that created the Creator. Neither creation myth addresses the First Cause paradox.
 
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In the meantime, if I cared that passionately about it, I would form/join/support a grassroots organization that provides an all expenses paid trip to Ohio to get one. And then, I'd work my ass off to root out the cancer in our KY legislature, that refused to listen to the will of voters, concerning this issue.
I still have a Class B CDL, with passenger/bus certifications. Just saying...

(and time on my hands)

(I'll need 30 days to pass the "screens", but I can do that.)
 
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I was always with you on the anti-mandates train. Have years of posting to support that. Even suggested it could be a rare moment of bipartisanship to work on the creation of bodily autonomy rights. But all that being said, temporary measures are occasionally needed, and some of the covid measures were examples of that working. We aren't all masked and 6 feet apart today. I understand the argument it was silly to do then too, but honestly the government freely giving up temporary emergency powers is a great example of the system working. The alternative is using those temporary powers as a power to grab to make them permanent, which has happened with oppressive governments all too often throughout history.

Here I must separate the 'government'. The judicial branch mostly put a stop.to it, as it was all mostly unconstitutional. The executive and admin/bureau branches did not by any stretch freely give up those powers.

If anything, they've used that to infect other spheres of freedoms.

Dion, you of all posters I would expect to agree with that basic premise.
 
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It's two sides of the same coin. A circular debate. Impossible to prove or disprove.
Yeah I see that type of independent Creator as a moot point. If something created all this and then stepped back to watch, it's basically the exact same as if they aren't there at all. The only way a creator God would matter is if they directly interfere in their creation.
 
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I was always with you on the anti-mandates train. Have years of posting to support that. Even suggested it could be a rare moment of bipartisanship to work on the creation of bodily autonomy rights. But all that being said, temporary measures are occasionally needed, and some of the covid measures were examples of that working. We aren't all masked and 6 feet apart today. I understand the argument it was silly to do then too, but honestly the government freely giving up temporary emergency powers is a great example of the system working. The alternative is using those temporary powers as a power to grab to make them permanent, which has happened with oppressive governments all too often throughout history.

We still have massive ass unrequested, sent to every addressed registered voter mail in balloting in some states, correct?

When is that going away? Temporary, my ass.

And you know if it benefitted Republicans, dems would be screaming a lot louder.

Just like if the border crossers were hot Latinas, and petite cute Asian women, usa liberal women would be down there hand building that wall and deportation stations. Lol.
 
Here I must separate the 'government'. The judicial branch mostly put a stop.to it, as it was all mostly unconstitutional. The executive and admin/bureau branches did not by any stretch freely give up those powers.

If anything, they've used that to infect other spheres of freedoms.

Dion, you of all posters I would expect to agree with that basic premise.
I mean I do, I see your argument that the executive was flexing. But you have to see mine as well that the judicial smacked them and that's the entire point of our system of separation of powers and checks and balances. Each branch jealously guards their power and exercises it, which balances the others, keeping them in check. I would even argue many of our modern problems actually come from the legislative branch not following that and freely surrendering more and more of its power to the executive and judiciary. Most things are done through EO and injunctions and rulings nowadays, hardly anything actually gets legislated except what to name a park.
 
Yeah I see that type of independent Creator as a moot point. If something created all this and then stepped back to watch, it's basically the exact same as if they aren't there at all. The only way a creator God would matter is if they directly interfere in their creation.

I kind of liked Garth Ennis'take on the whole thing. 😉
 
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I mean I do, I see your argument that the executive was flexing. But you have to see mine as well that the judicial smacked them and that's the entire point of our system of separation of powers and checks and balances. Each branch jealously guards their power and exercises it, which balances the others, keeping them in check. I would even argue many of our modern problems actually come from the legislative branch not following that and freely surrendering more and more of its power to the executive and judiciary. Most things are done through EO and injunctions and rulings nowadays, hardly anything actually gets legislated except what to name a park.

Holy shit, I just felt like James Carville in old school.
 
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Meh, not necessarily. We could just be Sea Monkeys, or goldfish. No interaction needed. Or maybe an ant farm.
Yeah, I'm saying from our perspective. If He doesn't ever intervene and 'help' us, then He is just the natural universe. Physical laws. Science. If a human made an ant farm and walked away it's exactly the same as if a God made the ant farm, or a goat, or anything else. They're irrelevant to the frame of reference of the ant from in the farm. It's their world. Now if the person starts pouring water in the farm and drowning all the ants then they obviously matter, but not if don't they exert influence.
 
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"A new lawsuit filed Tuesday by a constellation of left-leaning groups in Pennsylvania is trying to prevent thousands of mail-in ballots from being thrown out in November's election in a battleground state that is expected to play a critical role in selecting a new president.

The lawsuit, filed in a state court, is the latest of perhaps a half-dozen cases to challenge a provision in Pennsylvania law that voters must write the date when they sign their mail-in ballot envelope.

Voters not understanding that provision has meant that tens of thousands of ballots lacked an accurate date since Pennsylvania dramatically expanded mail-in voting in a 2019 law."

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What have we come to? Expecting someone to write a date, nay, the CORRECT date, on their mail-in ballot. Are we no better than savages? The disenfranchisement is palpable...
 
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I mean I do, I see your argument that the executive was flexing. But you have to see mine as well that the judicial smacked them and that's the entire point of our system of separation of powers and checks and balances. Each branch jealously guards their power and exercises it, which balances the others, keeping them in check. I would even argue many of our modern problems actually come from the legislative branch not following that and freely surrendering more and more of its power to the executive and judiciary. Most things are done through EO and injunctions and rulings nowadays, hardly anything actually gets legislated except what to name a park.

Let's not forget government agencies/ bureaucrats just making shit up as they see fit, extra judicially, but with the force of police power.
 
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Yeah, I'm saying from our perspective. If He doesn't ever intervene and 'help' us, then He is just the natural universe. Physical laws. Science. If a human made an ant farm and walked away it's exactly the same as if a God made the ant farm, or a goat, or anything else. They're irrelevant to the frame of reference of the ant from in the farm. It's their world. Now if the person starts pouring water in the farm and drowning all the ants then they obviously matter, but not if they exert influence.
Blech...

IF I had three Christmas wishes, one would be that Santa would bring you a sense of humor. You're just WAY too serious. You're tighter than Dick's Hat Band, which is a shame, because, with your smarts, you'd probably be good at it.
 
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Let's not forget government agencies/ bureaucrats just making shit up as they see fit, extra judicially, but with the force of police power.
Especially when those regulatory agencies are bought and paid for by the industries they're supposed to be regulating. And that's why I can navigate this thread full of political opinions vastly disparate from my own, I've tried them all on. Anarchist, libertarian, communist. Part of my childhood was out West where BLM doesn't mean Black Lives Matter it means the Bureau of Land Management who control the whole goddamn world and will make your life hell if you walk your cattle across a stream. Politics is a very complicated business as it's basically a proxy for all human interaction. There are no ultimately right or wrong answers. We've just got to keep plugging away at reforms.
 
Blech...

IF I had three Christmas wishes, one would be that Santa would bring you a sense of humor. You're just WAY too serious. You're tighter than Dick's Hat Band, which is a shame, because, with your smarts, you'd probably be good at it.

I do have hope for Dion. He is young, and somewhat educated, perhaps even clever. He'll figure it out at some point, most like.

Sambo, on the other hand, old and brainwashed ain't a good combo. I say old, when he's probably my age, but he claims he's retired, sometimes, when it suits him, but i would make 30 circles around that guy before he made a move, which, basically everyone here does, multiple times, daily, so not saying I'm special. Lol.
 
We still have massive ass unrequested, sent to every addressed registered voter mail in balloting in some states, correct?

When is that going away? Temporary, my ass.

And you know if it benefitted Republicans, dems would be screaming a lot louder.

Just like if the border crossers were hot Latinas, and petite cute Asian women, usa liberal women would be down there hand building that wall and deportation stations. Lol.
I believe most of the states that did that during the pandemic are not this time. I'll have to research to find out exactly which. Regardless though I'm not going down an election denial rabbit hole with you on this as I support increasing voting opportunity, not decreasing it.
 
Especially when those regulatory agencies are bought and paid for by the industries they're supposed to be regulating. And that's why I can navigate this thread full of political opinions vastly disparate from my own, I've tried them all on. Anarchist, libertarian, communist. Part of my childhood was out West where BLM doesn't mean Black Lives Matter it means the Bureau of Land Management who control the whole goddamn world and will make your life hell if you walk your cattle across a stream. Politics is a very complicated business as it's basically a proxy for all human interaction. There are no ultimately right or wrong answers. We've just got to keep plugging away at reforms.

Agree, and as far as that, why aren't you on here daily pushing RFK, JR. ?

I really like him and what he says about precisely that, corporate capture, etc. .. , but I totally distrust something there.
 
Especially when those regulatory agencies are bought and paid for by the industries they're supposed to be regulating. And that's why I can navigate this thread full of political opinions vastly disparate from my own, I've tried them all on. Anarchist, libertarian, communist. Part of my childhood was out West where BLM doesn't mean Black Lives Matter it means the Bureau of Land Management who control the whole goddamn world and will make your life hell if you walk your cattle across a stream. Politics is a very complicated business as it's basically a proxy for all human interaction. There are no ultimately right or wrong answers. We've just got to keep plugging away at reforms.

So you were pro-Bundy?
 
I see Stan the cad/JohnKba/the w-2 racist canuck is still here laughing emoji, but not allowed to post. Sad!

I heard the Canuck passed. Rumor has it he went out exactly the way he wanted to go, surrounded by strangers (no one that knew him would want to be there)...he was in an emergency room due to something alcohol related of course.

With doctors and nurses trying to save him, his final act was to pull out his W-2 and show them all. Muttering something like 'I bet I make more money than you Doc'.
 
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