Time to bring back the Monroe Doctrine...
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Well, thank you for admitting that it's NOT a right. And it is up to the legislature. Fed or state. Dobbs just got rid of Roe. The feds can absolutely pass a law, and the SCOTUS can render a judgment later, as it's designed amd worked for 250+ years. Minus the uniparty traitors who need tarred amd feathered in the public square.
Speaking of, I would suggest we take the congressperson utilizing insider info, and any that are outpacing the Warren buffet types in gains, be made an extreme example of.
I mean, Extreme.
I actually misread your original post. But I'm still right when I posted that it would go to the Supreme Court, if it wasn't kicked before by lower federal courts and state courts. Yes, the Supreme Court "could" try to ignore it. But they absolutely "would" review it, and it would absolutely be a slam dunk to nuke it, starting with 8th Amendment related decisions. Kennedy v. Louisiana etc. It's just not going to happen that this law would even get that far. It's more likely that a state would try to pass some asinine law allowing the death penalty for fentaynl dealers than for abortion, anyway, and that would not work, either.
Would we need to close some our 800 bases in over 80 countries to pull that off?
I've shared this story before, about how, on long trips, I was relegated to the rear window "bay" LOL
Got fired, at high speed, into the backs of the front seats more times than I care to remember. That didn't hurt so much, but hitting that drive train "hump" on the floor, and getting sunburned like an ant under a magnifying glass (because of the parabolic shape of the rear window) was extremely unpleasant. LOL
(Just because my stupid older sister wanted to stretch out, and was too big to fit up there. Bitch... LOL)
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Couldn't hurt. Let Europe get a taste of "the old country"
The first part is too. I mean, regardless of stare decisis, pretty much any law is up for Supreme Court review if they take it, can get really complicated.
You think if it goes to 6-3 the other way, they won't try and reverse Dobbs?
Come on, Dion.
That's some final destination shit
Most legal scholars have agreed, for a long time, the Roe v Wade was flimsy. It only stuck around because everyone (well, ENOUGH) were terrified to touch it.
I will continue to maintain that it's a state issue, not Federal. (Since it's now precedent that neither the procedure, nor the baby is protected under the Constitution.)
My wife frequently says, "There is a darkness in you. A place I don't want to open the door and look into." LOL
Mostly correct, but what I think you're missing, is that today's USA, the 'farriggt militia types are the types who say 'I don't care if my gay married neighbors grow weed and have multiple 'weapons of war and shoot off fireworks (at reasonable hours) Great, problem is the left only is OK with 2 of those.
Or we could revive the Platt Amendment.
I might even pick up a Havana double corona (even though I gave up tobacco), and some Havana Club Rum once in a while.
I might even pick up a Havana double corona (even though I gave up tobacco), and some Havana Club Rum once in a while.
Don't fear the darkness but embrace the power of the dark side.
And dammit you guys keep tossing around these social studies lessons I have to keep looking this stuff up to try and keep up
And dammit you guys keep tossing around these social studies lessons I have to keep looking this stuff up to try and keep up
What happens when you get T-boned on the driver's side at 40 mph? I'd prefer to bounce into my.passenger than be crushed betwixt the driver door and my seat belt. Just saying. Insurance companies got tired of paying for faces through windshields, pretty much.
It was probably the life insurance companies that lobbied for them. The biggest danger of not wearing a seatbelt is getting ejected from the car, and crushed by it.
Anyway, like I said, if you put others in increased danger, by not wearing it, it, IMO ceases to become a personal liberty issue. I guess you could tell anyone that rides with you, that you refuse to wear a seatbelt, and have them sign a waiver that says they accept the risk. LOL
I could also see a similar rationale for requiring motorcycle helmets. If your face is unprotected, and a big old cicada nails you in the face or eye, it could cause you to lose control of the motorcycle, and crash head on into somebody. I'm ALL for a person's freedom and choices, but taking risks on public roads puts others in unneccessary danger.
Anyway, like I said, if you put others in increased danger, by not wearing it, it, IMO ceases to become a personal liberty issue. I guess you could tell anyone that rides with you, that you refuse to wear a seatbelt, and have them sign a waiver that says they accept the risk. LOL
I could also see a similar rationale for requiring motorcycle helmets. If your face is unprotected, and a big old cicada nails you in the face or eye, it could cause you to lose control of the motorcycle, and crash head on into somebody. I'm ALL for a person's freedom and choices, but taking risks on public roads puts others in unneccessary danger.
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Yeah, the chances of a driver in a crash that a seat belt would effect them slamming into a passenger, or not, again is way less than the kinetic force of a head on smash, as opposed to a fender or door or rear end accident. (Depending on speed and physics of course.)
I put it on every time, habit, and don't want my car scolding me, but air bags are way better. Side and front.
Yeah, it's not a hill I'm willing to die on, I was just saying that I can at least see the rationale behind them. 👍
Clearly, I'm bored, but honest question. I left the channel on, after the NBA finals game, and Kimmel has some African American celebrity on, who claimed to be Jewish. Clearly, she isn't ethnically a Jew.
Now, does she practice Judaism? Perhaps. Was she born in Israel? Is she a Rachel Dolezal culturally appropriating?
I'm genuinely confused.
And she has gotten even more bizarre as it goes on.
But, to me, a Japanese person can be Muslim, but they can't really claim to be an Arab Muslim, can they?
Are people just this insane? 😕
Now, does she practice Judaism? Perhaps. Was she born in Israel? Is she a Rachel Dolezal culturally appropriating?
I'm genuinely confused.
And she has gotten even more bizarre as it goes on.
But, to me, a Japanese person can be Muslim, but they can't really claim to be an Arab Muslim, can they?
Are people just this insane? 😕
Got me, I just know that everyone gets to avail themselves of the process.
Ummmm, pretty sure that you can be whatever you CLAIM to be. That's the narrative.
It's always been a dream of mine to go to law school (primarily to be a nuisance to a justice system that I think crushes people without means), but I can't afford it. If I identify as a minority or illegal, I'll bet I could get a scholarship. I was under the impression that you could just study for the bar, pass it, and become a practicing attorney, but that law has been changed. So I really have no other choice, now do I? Are there any accredited online law schools? All I need is the sheepskin, I can do the rest myself. I took the LSAT already (157) so...
(and shame on you for watching Kimmel)
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I actually don't think so. Dems shot their load on Roe, now that it's been overturned I don't think they'd try to impose it through SCOTUS again as it was always big and unwieldy. Public opinion has shifted enough they just want to use it as a campaign issue. I may be proven wrong on this in time but I would be very surprised if we ever get some sort of Roe 2.
Indeed on that Kimmel rubbish. Ashamed I left it on that channel and added one viewer to that tripe. ( Btw, it's Tiffany Haddish that's the guest)
Law school long ago was that way, I think one state allows taking the bar without law school, amd one that if you go-to an instate law school, you don't have to pass the bar. But that might be 20 year old not current info. States are always changing the reciprocity rules, etc. Kind of like the medical schools.
It's wild to me, that if you go-to med school in India or some random south American countries, accepted usa physician, and others, like Germany, no, you have to attend a usa med school.
Ask Craven Samwell if the fridge survived.
I hear those ar-15's treat fridges like pit bulls do children.
Agree, but they always used it as an election issue. They could have codified that shit just like they could the tax code if they really wanted and cared.
Another reason I can't stand them.
The uniparty.
This isn't GYERO, we don't put on airs about post frequency here (a battle I've fought those guys over for years LOL)
The rational 60 percent of America, if they had a voice that wasn't constantly being drowned out/beaten down by our two "distinguished parties" and their zealots, could, I'm sure, come to a resonable solution to abortion.
In fact, if we could neuter the looney 40 percent (I'm giving each side 20 percent), this country could probably roll up it's sleeves, and get down to some serious work, while giving the disadvantaged the type of help that would, you know, actually ****ing HELP.
Convention of States...
In fact, if we could neuter the looney 40 percent (I'm giving each side 20 percent), this country could probably roll up it's sleeves, and get down to some serious work, while giving the disadvantaged the type of help that would, you know, actually ****ing HELP.
Convention of States...
I took the LSAT on a whim. I had no idea what to expect, but it was mostly logic and conditionally based ordering. Not what I was expecting at all. But was sort of in my wheel house.
Anyway, it's a pipe dream. I was serious about wanting to help folks that get caught in that system. I've seen it a bunch (through family members, friend's of mine and their children)
You get popped on something minor, especially a drug offense, and they make you jump through hoops that you cannot believe. A person that is struggling to get by, perhaps working multiple jobs, and has no support system, or an intelligent friend or family member that can help them navigate that mess, well... they're doomed. They get sucked down the funnel, and before you know it; what might have started out as minor, turns into missed court dates, bench warrants, etc. and now they've got REAL problems. It's a damned travesty.
I'm NOT making excuses for poor decisions, but is it too much to ask for the courts (and their privatized and very expensive, yet mandatory counseling centers (many of whom probably pay kick backs to politicians etc.) to not make it exponentially more difficult to get through?
Here is an example; my son got into some trouble (drug charges), got put into the system. Probation, CAPS appointments twice a week (for counseling, urine test, the works, all of which, was pretty hard for him to cover, expense wise) Anyway, he was within 60 days of completing his requirements, and he recieved a letter from CAPS (privatized probation officers/case handlers) that his probation was being revoked because he failed to keep them informed of his current address.
Yes, that's correct. They mailed a letter to him, which he received, telling him they were violating him because he didn't give them his current address. The address that they mailed the letter to. I wish I was making this up. Luckily for him, he had family (me primarily, to advocate for him, with promises to bring immense grief on them if they didn't notify the judge of their stupidity) but a majority of folks like that don't. So, as I said, they're screwed...
Anyway, it's a pipe dream. I was serious about wanting to help folks that get caught in that system. I've seen it a bunch (through family members, friend's of mine and their children)
You get popped on something minor, especially a drug offense, and they make you jump through hoops that you cannot believe. A person that is struggling to get by, perhaps working multiple jobs, and has no support system, or an intelligent friend or family member that can help them navigate that mess, well... they're doomed. They get sucked down the funnel, and before you know it; what might have started out as minor, turns into missed court dates, bench warrants, etc. and now they've got REAL problems. It's a damned travesty.
I'm NOT making excuses for poor decisions, but is it too much to ask for the courts (and their privatized and very expensive, yet mandatory counseling centers (many of whom probably pay kick backs to politicians etc.) to not make it exponentially more difficult to get through?
Here is an example; my son got into some trouble (drug charges), got put into the system. Probation, CAPS appointments twice a week (for counseling, urine test, the works, all of which, was pretty hard for him to cover, expense wise) Anyway, he was within 60 days of completing his requirements, and he recieved a letter from CAPS (privatized probation officers/case handlers) that his probation was being revoked because he failed to keep them informed of his current address.
Yes, that's correct. They mailed a letter to him, which he received, telling him they were violating him because he didn't give them his current address. The address that they mailed the letter to. I wish I was making this up. Luckily for him, he had family (me primarily, to advocate for him, with promises to bring immense grief on them if they didn't notify the judge of their stupidity) but a majority of folks like that don't. So, as I said, they're screwed...
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You fight every day for government control over people's bodies.
That is the most control you can have short of mind and body.
Freedom vs Control. What a joke.
Current abortion laws passed by the right give zero freedom and mandate full bodily control.
The irony is ridiculous
Yeah, but I've busted his balls for precisely that, so I've got to call myself out tonight.
Yep.
Driver license suspension laws among the most egregious of examples. Good lord.
Dude, my fellow cat fan, you are WAY WAY off base here.
Find me one post where I've ever said anything about the government controlling that shit.
I don't care. At all. I offer my personal opinion on the biology aspect, that is it.
Yes, I think youre 'clump of cells' doesn't become anything other that a human or a natural miscarriage, etc.
I just tire of types like you who scream about body autonomy and my body my choice idiots who said the exact opposite 2-3years ago.
Because 'your rights end where mine begin' idiocy.
We all have basic human rights, and mine don't end because you're a coward.
One thing I've learned about some of the folks on the Political Thread; they either don't need much sleep, are retired (like me), or work second shift. LOL
And some of us wake up in the middle of the night to fire off at sambowieshin, as he might be the dumbest person ever, and needs a daily reminder of his Branch Covidian cult allegiance. 😁
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I posted quite a bit on here recently about my changed belief that vaccine mandates may have been too intrusive on bodily autonomy in some instances. If I say the government can force a vaccine but can't force a birth then I am being hypocritical. Can't have it both ways.
You may wanna reconsider your stance as well to avoid the same hypocrisy.
I also have never said I am for abortions... I'm just not for the government making that decision for a woman or child. Best left to them, their doc and their God.
Leave me out of it.
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