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Thats mainly what I was trying to get across, although in retrospect I thinkI got sidetracked a bit.Being a private business owner doesn't mean you have waive your own constitutional rights.
But I thought free market capitalism and competition were good? Look who's a protectionist labor rights advocate at their core! Time to support Bernie?
Probably true, but I suspect she wanted to give the appearance of being tough on crime. I believe she went on Don Lemonās show to address the scandal. That, as well, probably justifies termination. Have a damn press conference.Naming a police unit the "Scorpion Unit" in and of itself seems like a bad idea. Sounds like something from a Dirty Harry movie.
Damn Dioness, I almost forgot this one šŗIt's about discrimination. You can obviously discriminate against people for their actions. If someone calls you a piece of shit and says you should die, you can rightly refuse to serve them and tell them to leave your restaurant. You can't discriminate against someone for their identities they have no control over and are born into, like sex or race. Those are immutable characteristics and protected classes. You're one too being a man. The protections protect us all.
Investigation, investigationā¦blah blah blahā¦
I donāt think they would refuse service because the country isnāt racist and any business that might would be not long to stay open.Surely there would be some businesses that would refuse to serve blacks or hispanics or muslims. And then you would have some black businesses that would refuse to serve whites. Luckily, we don't have to think about these hypos because no serious person - republican or democrat - is advocating repealing the federal, state, and local public accommodation laws or overturning years of court precedent.
Maybe if Big Oil wasn't raping every American and charging triple what they should for gas... We'd all have a few more bucks in our pocket. But the Pubs just love to scream FJB instead of looking at the insane greed going on.
Exxon And Chevron Set For Record $100 Billion In Profits In 2022 | OilPrice.com
The surge in oil and gas prices will translate into record-high 2022 earnings for the two U.S. supermajors, Exxon and Chevron, with their combined yearly profits hitting nearly $100 billionoilprice.com
Surely there would be some businesses that would refuse to serve blacks or hispanics or muslims. And then you would have some black businesses that would refuse to serve whites. Luckily, we don't have to think about these hypos because no serious person - republican or democrat - is advocating repealing the federal, state, and local public accommodation laws or overturning years of court precedent.
Stopped reading your response when you asserted that oil companies have no incentive or money available for investment. Oil will always be necessary until it runs out and they made RECORD profits last year.Do you know why they are making record profits?
You see you usually have this thing called revenue. Before it turns to profit you do things like pay salary, overhead costs, and do this thing called investment. The oil companies are not doing the last thing. You know why? Because you have a democrat party who's openly hostile and threatening to shut their entire industry down...hence that last piece is turning directly into profit.
Let me know if you if you can find any industry or if you were a business owner if you would spend money to expand production and operations if the govt was openly threatening to shut you down. Unless you think burning money is a sound business strategy.
Not to mention, considering they are all operating at capacity which they didn't before.
Also the cost of fuel is dependent on a lot of things, like futures prices. Etc
But here we are pretending that Biden is a helpless bystander where all these things keep happening and all these industries just decided out of nowhere to become greedy.
Maybe focus on pronouns more or whatever you all think is pressing.
Big egg, big meat, big tampon...all mysteriously are just taking advantage of grandpa
Stopped reading your response when you asserted that oil companies have no incentive or money available for investment. Oil will always be necessary until it runs out and they made RECORD profits last year.
They are playing the gullible fools like always. Blame Biden as the oil flows at the same rate as under Trump and rake in record breaking profits.
Biden granted more oil and gas drilling permits than Trump in his first 2 years in office
Data from the Bureau of Land Management shows that President Biden approved more oil and gas drilling permits in his first two years in office than former President Donald Trump.news.yahoo.com
Biden Administration Oil, Gas Drilling Approvals Outpace Trumpās
Center for Biological Diversity: Massive Fossil Fuel Expansion Undermines U.S. Climate Commitmentsbiologicaldiversity.org
The informed/good citizens of this country are fighting an unbeatable opponent the way things are now. The only thing keeping the US from becoming a complete totalitarian country is the 2nd Amendment. The US government is the largest and most powerful criminal enterprise ever known to man.Decorum doesn't work against evil. Voting doesn't work with criminals. Government officials should at all times be terrified of the populace or it doesn't work. No more theater, no more investigations and Twitter threads and letters. Doesn't work.
Damn, her fat face barely fits in that bubble. Sheās a doctor?
How insane is it that the public allowed the formation of the CIA/ FBI and even Fed Reserve? I guess it would've been too much for these people to fathom the crazy shit that would ensue but in the 1900s, we let government control just explode. Then when 9/11 happened, we just let the Patriot Act happen.The informed/good citizens of this country are fighting an unbeatable opponent the way things are now. The only thing keeping the US from becoming a complete totalitarian country is the 2nd Amendment. The US government is the largest and most powerful criminal enterprise ever known to man.
That's the funniest thing I've seen for quite a while.
Sex is an immutable characteristic. Being gay or trans is not a choice. The cake is a pink cake with blue frosting. That is not speech. Itās a pink cake with blue frosting. Phillips is free to hate gay and trans people as much as he wants, but if he also wants to run a business he has to serve them. Thatās the law. The trans person is just trying to buy a cake from a cake shop, not deny service to Phillips because heās Christian.Just yesterday you made this post
At this point the people antagonizing the baker are essentially doing just that, calling him a POS, and bullying him because of his belief system.
Being a tranny is not an immutable characteristic, It's a choice.
And what is it with "protected classes" shouldn't EVERYONE be protected? How are the Tranny's pushing these lawsuits not bigots towards the Bakers chosen religious beliefs?
A.k.a. since heās one of yāall you like the same standard doesnāt apply. Thanks for posting to confirm your hypocrisy.The libs and the one 'conservative' that have started 20 plus accounts are f-cking losers...one reason is they deny they ever had any previous accounts when it's beyond obvious they have. They usually have completely embarrassed themselves under previous accounts so they keep starting new ones and their account is almost always less than a year old. We have had idiots with a 3 day old account show up on the political thread of sports site and act like they have never been here before.
Knowls has had to start new accounts because of run ins with the mods, when he posts there is no denying who it is, everyone knows regardless what name it is under. He is probably the most popular poster here by far...it's a completely different situation than the losers who start account after account because they have embarrassed themselves. If the other posters that have had to start other accounts went missing no one would care, we probably wouldn't notice if they went missing. If your account vanished, no one would give a sh-t.
That isnāt a problem for them. Itās the entire point.The issue with that is that you would be giving license to businesses to discriminate on all sorts of grounds. Race for example. Businesses could deny service to black people (or any other race), which they used to do freely in the south before the Supreme Court's commerce clause decision in Heart of Atlanta Motel in 1964.
The Patriot Act came before 9/11. It was written beforehand. "they hate us because of our freedom". George BushHow insane is it that the public allowed the formation of the CIA/ FBI and even Fed Reserve? I guess it would've been too much for these people to fathom the crazy shit that would ensue but in the 1900s, we let government control just explode. Then when 9/11 happened, we just let the Patriot Act happen.
You're not free in this country.
He didnāt win. The SC didnāt rule on the substance of the case the first time. The issue is still undecided and must be decided by the courts.He was the guy that made the stand and won.
Now theyāre punishing him for it, and will continue to until he retires as a warning to the next person that thinks about opposing them.
Sex is an immutable characteristic. Being gay or trans is not a choice. The cake is a pink cake with blue frosting. That is not speech. Itās a pink cake with blue frosting. Phillips is free to hate gay and trans people as much as he wants, but if he also wants to run a business he has to serve them. Thatās the law. The trans person is just trying to buy a cake from a cake shop, not deny service to Phillips because heās Christian.
He would sell them a cake, he just wouldnāt customize it for them. You think you can go into a Mexican restaurant and ask for Chinese for and expect them to make it?Sex is an immutable characteristic. Being gay or trans is not a choice. The cake is a pink cake with blue frosting. That is not speech. Itās a pink cake with blue frosting. Phillips is free to hate gay and trans people as much as he wants, but if he also wants to run a business he has to serve them. Thatās the law. The trans person is just trying to buy a cake from a cake shop, not deny service to Phillips because heās Christian.
Wrong. She asked for a pink cake with blue frosting. That is not compelled speech. He agreed to bake it. She said it was for a transition party. He then changed his mind and refused to make it because of that. After previously agreeing. That is the definition of refusal of service based on sex. As the courts agreed. Youāre just flat wrong on the specifics and issues at play.He didn't deny service. This is the lie you authoritarians keep using. They were free to come into the store, they were free to buy any product he had. They were not, however, free to force him to make something he has never made and conscript him into their service...which is what you are wanting now.
Let me know where you are confused about the above. Read it, then read it again. Per usual, you let your feelings get in the way and are basing everything on that. No one is arguing that the guys views arent dumb.
I've said before, and it crumbles your entire argument, if things were reversed and someone came in and said make me a cake that says: Gays Burn in Hell, and he refused, you would cheer. Showing there is zero principle behind this, its all feelings based. Not to mention, there is zero evidence he would make that cake either...None.
Again, this is nothing more but the left demanding ultimate compliance or you will be destroyed.
No, a pink cake with blue frosting is not compelled speech. As the court ruled. He wasnāt asked to bake a cake with, āI support sex transitioning!ā on it. Just a colored cake. He initially agreed to make the cake and then refused once he found out who it is was for. Denial of service.I agree that this is not a public accommodations case. This is a first amendment case. It is a much harder case philosophically than just a "refusal of service" public accommodation case.
Reminder that there was election interference when our intelligence agencies and the media colluded with democrats to intentionally mislead the American people about the Bidens.
Wrong. She asked for a pink cake with blue frosting. That is not compelled speech. He agreed to bake it. She said it was for a transition party. He then changed his mind and refused to make it because of that. After previously agreeing. That is the definition of refusal of service based on sex. As the courts agreed. Youāre just flat wrong on the specifics and issues at play.
āWe conclude that creating a pink cake with blue frosting is not inherently expressive and any message or symbolism it provides to an observer would not be attributed to the baker.ā Courts own words.
Utter nonsense. Unfit for a serious person to make this kind of nonsensical argument.Sex is an immutable characteristic. Being gay or trans is not a choice. The cake is a pink cake with blue frosting. That is not speech. Itās a pink cake with blue frosting. Phillips is free to hate gay and trans people as much as he wants, but if he also wants to run a business he has to serve them. Thatās the law. The trans person is just trying to buy a cake from a cake shop, not deny service to Phillips because heās Christian.
Ok, for hypothetical sake, let's say someone with a swastika neck tattoo walks in and asks for a white cake with white frosting in the shape of a kkk hood. No words.
You ok with forcing that baker to make that cake?
Cause sex isn't at issue here, the issue is someone making up their sex, which this guy disagrees with, based on his religion. As you liberals like to say, my rights don't end where yours begins, or whatever fool slogan it is.
Because it had nothing to do with the cake ...And since I know you're going to say he agreed to make it, the. Wouldn't, and no one would make a cake in my hypothetical, say a phone call comes in asking for the white cake, with dimensions required. Baker makes the cake, obviously nazi guy comes in to buy it, baker refuses to sell it to him.
Discrimination based on race, or nah?
Or, how about, leave the guy alone, and order a cake from someone else who will.make it, you despicable liberal nut job.
Which is why it has to be litigated. The fundamental issue here is does religious belief give you the right to discriminate against others who are protected by the same legal mechanism your religious belief is. Itās a contradiction in our system that must be resolved.Ok, for hypothetical sake, let's say someone with a swastika neck tattoo walks in and asks for a white cake with white frosting in the shape of a kkk hood. No words.
You ok with forcing that baker to make that cake?
Cause sex isn't at issue here, the issue is someone making up their sex, which this guy disagrees with, based on his religion. As you liberals like to say, my rights don't end where yours begins, or whatever fool slogan it is.
Why? You have no argument, only insults.Utter nonsense. Unfit for a serious person to make this kind of nonsensical argument.