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How many of them had their bank accounts frozen?
How many of the Gofundme pages or other "donate to the cause" sites had their donations frozen by the government so they couldn't be distributed.
How many of the businesses that served those protestors were fined and/or shut down?
I absolutely will NOT defend any of those measures. I was only addressing the road/bridge blockages. Those examples you mentioned are government overreach imo. Clear the roads and arrest them for obstructing free travel. Not sure why you would use any other measures unless the cost of truck removal is a factor. But that should be settled at a later court date vs. freezing assets right now.
 
I absolutely will NOT defend any of those measures. I was only addressing the road/bridge blockages. Those examples you mentioned are government overreach imo. Clear the roads and arrest them for obstructing free travel. Not sure why you would use any other measures unless the cost of truck removal is a factor. But that should be settled at a later court date vs. freezing assets right now.
My point was that you tried to show there was some measure of enforcement in some instances with the BLM/Antifa protestors, and I'm making the point that those measures paled in comparison to what is happening to the Truckers. the majority of those you linked were likely let out of jail within a very short period of time and not charged with anything or noting more than a misdemeanor.
 
That is not a lesson plan. Never seen a lesson plan like that in my life. That may be some type of training or professional development related graphic organizer for teachers to use that helps them be aware of hidden bias they may have when dealing with students of color in their math classroom.
That ain't no lesson plan. That is a graphic organizer for adults. More fake outrage and lies from the tighty whities.
 
Maybe you didn't see it on the local or national news where you live?? The government did nothing in some places but made plenty of arrests in other places. BLM would have never gotten off as easy in the U.S. for blocking roads/bridges for weeks as those mother truckers in Canada have. Government did plenty to make sure blocking free travel and workers didn't become a way of life here like it has in Canada.





From the 2 of your links I clicked on so far, it seems most were arrested once they assaulted or threw bottles at police officers. To my knowledge the Canadian protests have been not just mostly, but 99.9% peaceful. The police are the ones providing the violence.

Also, I don’t see anyone inside the Canadian government voicing support for the truckers and offering to bail them out. The BLM protesters KNEW they’d be out on the streets and have their chargers dismissed. Canadians and their supporters are having their bank accounts froze.
 
That is not a lesson plan. Never seen a lesson plan like that in my life. That may be some type of training or professional development related graphic organizer for teachers to use that helps them be aware of hidden bias they may have when dealing with students of color in their math classroom.
That ain't no lesson plan. That is a graphic organizer for adults. More fake outrage and lies from the tighty whities.
You’re out of your mind if you think math has “hidden biased” and racism. 2 + 2 can’t be racist. You twist and contort to make it so. Lesson plan or not, this is being engrained into teachers heads. I’ve seen detailed videos of teachers conferences teaching pre K kids about sex and their identity.

Listen, I get you want to defend teachers at all costs, and I worked with teachers for over a decade. Most of them were good people and good teachers… but the BS the heads of these organizations are pushing is insane.
 
Putin comes off as a big baby with small penis syndrome. When is someone going to grow a pair and tell Putin to shove his woe is me act up his ass.
 
Cuba says Hello.
Castro says, “Me and my cronies lived like kings. I had a seaside mansion and a private island I could access with my yacht made of wood imported from Angola. The embargo may’ve destroyed my country and its people, but not me!” Cuba’s history is long and multifaceted with Castro doing both reprehensible and laudable things. We can argue about it all day. But one thing that isn’t arguable is that it was, once again, communist in name only.
 
You’re out of your mind if you think math has “hidden biased” and racism. 2 + 2 can’t be racist. You twist and contort to make it so. Lesson plan or not, this is being engrained into teachers heads. I’ve seen detailed videos of teachers conferences teaching pre K kids about sex and their identity.

Listen, I get you want to defend teachers at all costs, and I worked with teachers for over a decade. Most of them were good people and good teachers… but the BS the heads of these organizations are pushing is insane.

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God created math (and science). Man just figures it out over time.
 
My point was that you tried to show there was some measure of enforcement in some instances with the BLM/Antifa protestors, and I'm making the point that those measures paled in comparison to what is happening to the Truckers. the majority of those you linked were likely let out of jail within a very short period of time and not charged with anything or noting more than a misdemeanor.
My point was that there are many on the right who were cheering on the blocking of roads/bridges two weeks ago before the specific overreaches you mentioned. They were saying it was great to do that but two years ago blocking bridges/roads was terrible and should result in arrests. It's the hypocrisy for me.
I think you and I can both agree that some of the current measures the Canadian government is taking are definitely government overreach.
I'm referring to this BS.....
 
Maybe you didn't see it on the local or national news where you live?? The government did nothing in some places but made plenty of arrests in other places. BLM would have never gotten off as easy in the U.S. for blocking roads/bridges for weeks as those mother truckers in Canada have. Government did plenty to make sure blocking free travel and workers didn't become a way of life here like it has in Canada.





You forgot the part about them being immediately bailed out and all charges dropped.
 
You’re out of your mind if you think math has “hidden biased” and racism. 2 + 2 can’t be racist. You twist and contort to make it so. Lesson plan or not, this is being engrained into teachers heads. I’ve seen detailed videos of teachers conferences teaching pre K kids about sex and their identity.

Listen, I get you want to defend teachers at all costs, and I worked with teachers for over a decade. Most of them were good people and good teachers… but the BS the heads of these organizations are pushing is insane.
I can't and won't defend teaching pre k kids about sh** like you mentioned. I have no idea where that is going on but I bet it isn't in Kentucky or 99.9 percent of the schools across America. Using one insane example to paint the entire education system as crazed is ridiculous.
It is not the numbers or 2+2 that the racial bias graphic is about. It has to do with asking yourself how hard you push the students in your class to achieve. It has to do with the types of examples you use in your word problems that some kids relate to better than others. It has to do with the types of projects and hands on activities you use. There is nothing wrong with trying to reach every kid in your room and get the most out of them. Self reflection and striving to be the best teacher you can be for ALL your students is a good thing....not a thing to be vilified.
 
Castro says, “Me and my cronies lived like kings. I had a seaside mansion and a private island I could access with my yacht made of wood imported from Angola. The embargo may’ve destroyed my country and its people, but not me!” Cuba’s history is long and multifaceted with Castro doing both reprehensible and laudable things. We can argue about it all day. But one thing that isn’t arguable is that it was, once again, communist in name only.
-that's the way it works in *every* communist country.

-*if* you take away the immoral act forced wealth distribution...this theoretical communism you speak of would be great. It works in the small scale...kibbutz/commune type stuff.

^that said, It doesn't exist in a vacuum and it brings out the worst in human nature.

-capitalism with a small dash of socialism (like in the USA and western Europe) has proven to provide the most freedom to the most people in human history. It ain't close. Cmon, man.
 
From the 2 of your links I clicked on so far, it seems most were arrested once they assaulted or threw bottles at police officers. To my knowledge the Canadian protests have been not just mostly, but 99.9% peaceful. The police are the ones providing the violence.

Also, I don’t see anyone inside the Canadian government voicing support for the truckers and offering to bail them out. The BLM protesters KNEW they’d be out on the streets and have their chargers dismissed. Canadians and their supporters are having their bank accounts froze.
BLM claimed the same thing about the cops you are. Trump used the damn national guard to knock the crap out of BLM protesters in D.C. so he could take a picture in front of a church with a Bible. Would you defend Trudeau for doing the same to the Truckers?? Doubt it.




BTW....Go Fund Me just released a cool million in donations to help out truckers with their bail, legal fees, etc. Same difference.
 
I can't and won't defend teaching pre k kids about sh** like you mentioned. I have no idea where that is going on but I bet it isn't in Kentucky or 99.9 percent of the schools across America. Using one insane example to paint the entire education system as crazed is ridiculous.
It is not the numbers or 2+2 that the racial bias graphic is about. It has to do with asking yourself how hard you push the students in your class to achieve. It has to do with the types of examples you use in your word problems that some kids relate to better than others. It has to do with the types of projects and hands on activities you use. There is nothing wrong with trying to reach every kid in your room and get the most out of them. Self reflection and striving to be the best teacher you can be for ALL your students is a good thing....not a thing to be vilified.
I’m not painting the whole system, just showing where we are now. 10 years ago the sex ish would have NEVER been in a pre K classroom. Now it is. And I’m aware it’s not in Kentucky classrooms, at least where my kids go. But the fact it’s in (check out California, New York and Virginia) schools at all and will no doubt spread is a major concern.

There are several guidelines of this math teaching that getting the right answer is not the point. I know you’ve seen it by now. That’s insane. When you’re in the real world, no one cares if you solved a problem a certain way or through a certain method. They want the correct answer. And the problem with these approaches is they don’t compensate for kids who do not care, or have parents who do not care. It’s the exact opposite of getting the most out of kids, they get the least because teachers are forced to hold up the kids excelling… and please don’t tell me that isn’t happening because I’ve seen it first hand.
 
-that's the way it works in *every* communist country.

-*if* you take away the immoral act forced wealth distribution...this theoretical communism you speak of would be great. It works in the small scale...kibbutz/commune type stuff.

^that said, It doesn't exist in a vacuum and it brings out the worst in human nature.

-capitalism with a small dash of socialism (like in the USA and western Europe) has proven to provide the most freedom to the most people in human history. It ain't close. Cmon, man.
There haven't ever been any communist countries as you point out, thank you.

The accrual of the wealth was the immoral act. Bezos didn't make his money by being moral.

Edit to add: How about this as a final word on the subject, we all agree to be very skeptical of any government calling itself communist as they’re almost definitely using it as a Trojan Horse for authoritarianism. I see that, you see that, we all see that.
 
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Is that the same money Canada froze? I can’t believe you had 32 years to poison the mind of our children.
I have never defended the Canadian government freezing anyone's assets. That is government overreach....kinda like when Trump used the national guard to clear peaceful BLM protesters for a photo op holding a Bible.
BTW...I was an absolute professional and NEVER discussed politics with my students aside from current events or history related content to which I NEVER took a side or gave my opinion. My students never had any idea who I voted for or to what political party I belonged.
 
BLM claimed the same thing about the cops you are. Trump used the damn national guard to knock the crap out of BLM protesters in D.C. so he could take a picture in front of a church with a Bible. Would you defend Trudeau for doing the same to the Truckers?? Doubt it.




BTW....Go Fund Me just released a cool million in donations to help out truckers with their bail, legal fees, etc. Same difference.
You show me the burning buildings in Canada and people walking away battered and bloody or not walking away at all and we’ll talk.

Btw, gofundme tried to redirect those donations until they buckled under public pressure. Also wasn’t aware gofundme could drop charges.
 
You can't expected uneducated Trumpsters to know what words mean
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Here's a pretty fair account of some of Bill Gates doings. The man isn't out there looking for all our best interests. he is an authoritarian at heart but not elected to a position of power, so he uses his money and influence to wiggle his way into the globalist New World Order groups like the WEF. He is a Eugenicist, there's no debating that. Epstein was as well and he had a close relationship with him. I'm not one of the believers that thinks he's out to get the Population down to 500 million, but he wants population control through vaccines, abortions (under the guise of access to "reproductive health services") that's what planned parenthood calls itself. He's gone into third world countries to test out his various vaccines. Bottom line is he's a scary dude who isn't the great humanitarian you want to make him out to be. he's in bead suckling the cawks of guys like Klaus Schwab, George Soros and the like.

https://www.ccn.com/bill-gates-conspiracy-theorists-might-not-be-as-crazy-as-you-think/
I'm no fan and yes he is a globalist. I dont think Eugenicist is the correct term for him. Yes he does want the world population lower. I think Epstein REALLY wanted a close relationship but it didn't work out.

Gates is arrogant and believes he can solve the world's problems. Thats the problem with too many of the super rich, they think they are above us and in some manner, can control us.
 
Castro says, “Me and my cronies lived like kings. I had a seaside mansion and a private island I could access with my yacht made of wood imported from Angola. The embargo may’ve destroyed my country and its people, but not me!” Cuba’s history is long and multifaceted with Castro doing both reprehensible and laudable things. We can argue about it all day. But one thing that isn’t arguable is that it was, once again, communist in name only.
Tell that to it's citizens who are driving cars from the 50's and 60's pieced together with duct tape and paper clips, and who get their food and daily needs rationed to them. You can play semantics all you want, but it's communism.
 
There haven't ever been any communist countries as you point out, thank you.

The accrual of the wealth was the immoral act. Bezos didn't make his money by being moral.

-there hasn't been one because it is impossible, it's been tried: Lenin probably had good intentions, as did Pol pot/edi amin/che(the mother****er on t-shirts that personally oversaw the slaughter of thousands)...and so on.

^maybe they had good intentions til they had complete control and became assholes.

-I don't like bezos et al...but that's a handful of people. You could confiscate all their wealth and still not be able fund the federal govt for very long.

^then they would have to go after small business owners(bourgeois) and rural landowners (kulaks). Happens every time.

-your communism is a nice theoretical academic study. Real communism is a practical disaster. *every time*
 
I have never defended the Canadian government freezing anyone's assets. That is government overreach....kinda like when Trump used the national guard to clear peaceful BLM protesters for a photo op holding a Bible.
BTW...I was an absolute professional and NEVER discussed politics with my students aside from current events or history related content to which I NEVER took a side or gave my opinion. My students never had any idea who I voted for or to what political party I belonged.
Let me pull a you and post several links that say the same thing. Here ya go.




Oh and if you can point out where I accused you of any of that, that’d be great.
 
I’m not painting the whole system, just showing where we are now. 10 years ago the sex ish would have NEVER been in a pre K classroom. Now it is. And I’m aware it’s not in Kentucky classrooms, at least where my kids go. But the fact it’s in (check out California, New York and Virginia) schools at all and will no doubt spread is a major concern.

There are several guidelines of this math teaching that getting the right answer is not the point. I know you’ve seen it by now. That’s insane. When you’re in the real world, no one cares if you solved a problem a certain way or through a certain method. They want the correct answer. And the problem with these approaches is they don’t compensate for kids who do not care, or have parents who do not care. It’s the exact opposite of getting the most out of kids, they get the least because teachers are forced to hold up the kids excelling… and please don’t tell me that isn’t happening because I’ve seen it first hand.
I agree that there are constant pushes from above to do things that are not in the best interest of kids. There is always some "new method" or some "new program" that is being pushed. A lot of it is politically driven as well. Politicians who know next to nothing about schools are constantly passing new regs and new laws that make the job harder and harder. The focus on accountability and testing has also completely taken the joy of teaching away from the teachers and the joy of learning away from kids. Then throw in the constant bashing of teachers in the media that is heard by the parents and kids alike.
My kids will be the first generation in my family since my great grandfather to not have the tradition of being an educator carried on. There is a reason for that and is not an isolated incident among many teachers in this current political environment. It is no longer a job I would recommend to anyone. Makes me sad to say.
 
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You mean like this?
Ok, now what about the other 9 million that was raised? What about the money that was frozen from Give Send Go? That money wasn't for bailing criminals out of jail like your vice President Kackling Kamala endorsed.
 
Let me pull a you and post several links that say the same thing. Here ya go.




Oh and if you can point out where I accused you of any of that, that’d be great.
The person lying about that was Trump's own Inspector General. Of course he came out with some lame excuse later to cover up how bad that was. So was the General who walked with Trump lying when he apologized for it?? Trump and his lying cronies are FOS.
 
So that Putin speech had eerie Hitler-Sudetenland vibes. Don’t like the thought of a war with Russia and basically the end of the world. Dude is a whack job. Hopefully the Russian people see soon once they start sending Russians back in body bags as their economy crashes to being non existent.
 
BLM claimed the same thing about the cops you are. Trump used the damn national guard to knock the crap out of BLM protesters in D.C. so he could take a picture in front of a church with a Bible. Would you defend Trudeau for doing the same to the Truckers?? Doubt it.




BTW....Go Fund Me just released a cool million in donations to help out truckers with their bail, legal fees, etc. Same difference.
Just released? That article was from Jan. 27th. Damn near a month ago.
 
I agree that there are constant pushes from above to do things that are not in the best interest of kids. There is always some "new method" or some "new program" that is being pushed. A lot of it is politically driven as well. Politicians who know next to nothing about schools are constantly passing new regs and new laws that make the job harder and harder. The focus on accountability and testing has also completely taken the joy of teaching away from the teachers and the joy of learning away from kids. Then throw in the constant bashing of teachers in the media that is heard by the parents and kids alike.
My kids will be the first generation in my family since my great grandfather to not have the tradition of being an educator carried on. There is a reason for that and is not an isolated incident among many teachers in this current political environment. It is no longer a job I would recommend to anyone. Makes me sad to say.
This I agree with. The focus on testing and pushing it year around isn’t good for the kids at all. It stresses them out and takes away from the fun aspect of learning. And I realize not all teachers are bad. Just like not all police are bad. But most of the time shit rolls down hill and sadly the heads of these education establishments are trash and only care about funding.
 
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Tell that to it's citizens who are driving cars from the 50's and 60's pieced together with duct tape and paper clips, and who get their food and daily needs rationed to them. You can play semantics all you want, but it's communism.
And why do they have to drive those cars? Because they can’t get new ones. Why can’t they get new ones? The capitalist embargo. They aligned with our enemies so we destroyed their island nation that relies on imports. We’re the ones to blame for the material conditions in Cuba.
 
And why do they have to drive those cars? Because they can’t get new ones. Why can’t they get new ones? The capitalist embargo. They aligned with our enemies so we destroyed their island nation that relies on imports. We’re the ones to blame for the material conditions in Cuba.

-no. You may not know this but Cuba existed pre-castro...he slaughtered and displaced anyone who wasn't on board with being a soviet satellite.
 
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-there hasn't been one because it is impossible, it's been tried: Lenin probably had good intentions, as did Pol pot/edi amin/che(the mother****er on t-shirts that personally oversaw the slaughter of thousands)...and so on.

^maybe they had good intentions til they had complete control and became assholes.

-I don't like bezos et al...but that's a handful of people. You could confiscate all their wealth and still not be able fund the federal govt for very long.

^then they would have to go after small business owners(bourgeois) and rural landowners (kulaks). Happens every time.

-your communism is a nice theoretical academic study. Real communism is a practical disaster. *every time*
We’re saying similar things. Communism is a theoretical economic state that would require many, many technological advances to arrive at. It isn't practical or applicable in today’s world. Those who have “tried” have usually had ulterior motives. For these reasons we’ve never had or come close to a communist system. So y’all need to stop blaming communism for all the world’s ills. People are the problem, not “communism”. Trudeau is using his power to protect his power. For a whole host of reasons, none of which are that he’s a “communist”.
 
This I agree with. The focus on testing and pushing it year around isn’t good for the kids at all. It stresses them out and takes away from the fun aspect of learning. And I realize not all teachers are bad. Just like not all police are bad. But most of the time shit rolls down hill and sadly the heads of these education establishments are trash and only care about funding.
99 percent of the BS comes from the state dept of Ed and the Ky Legislature. The local school is just stuck trying to carry out all of the mandates, laws, regs and BS that rains down on them from above. The average local school in Kentucky is stuck in the middle of a sh"" sandwich between the dept of ed/state politicians/parents and the local school board.
I'm not saying schools shouldn't have some accountability.....but when you spend more time documenting what you are doing every day to prove you are accountable than you spend actually teaching....it is out of control.
 
I have never defended the Canadian government freezing anyone's assets. That is government overreach....kinda like when Trump used the national guard to clear peaceful BLM protesters for a photo op holding a Bible.
BTW...I was an absolute professional and NEVER discussed politics with my students aside from current events or history related content to which I NEVER took a side or gave my opinion. My students never had any idea who I voted for or to what political party I belonged.
Peaceful protesters my ass. That incident was painted with lies to make Trump into a villain. They did that every chance they got. And of course you slurped it up.
 
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