I would think they could just find enough crack pipes in Hunter’s couch cushions to cover anybody that needs a free one.
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That is who IS getting the grant funds. duh.
edit: AND, tax credits for recycling. Win-Win, for the Big Guy.
Can anyone tell me why our "Governor" is still doing these covid updates? Who actually watches that crap?
The legislature is the one that makes laws. Are you aware of another group in the our govts that can make law?
The Constitution is clear on LEGISLATURE, there is no wiggle room. The legislature is who makes the law, what you posted is legalese jumping through hoops to get a desired outcome.
The legislature is important because it most resembles the public body.
Like I stated, and you no doubt know, if States had changed election laws and rules in order for a Republican to win it would be a Constitutional crisis, the certification never would’ve happened at that time.
An election was stolen, with the help of communist China, and you see nothing wrong with it.
It's just his way of staying on tv. He talks about everything under the sun, patting himself on the back. The covid numbers are always the last thing he mentions
Our GOP is so inept it will get this clown a second term.
The people, from whom all power of government arises. I cited the legal cases. One covered whether the governor was considered part of that "Legislature" for purposes of the Elections Clause. He was, as the governor's veto is a step in the legislative process. Another addressed citizens' initiatives. As laws proposed and voted into place by the people they're entirely removed from the legislative body as you're defining "Legislature", but they're still obviously covered by the Elections Clause as they're legislated laws just like any other. The written opinions of the cases go into the logic in more detail obviously but the gist is that the historical record shows that the purpose of the Elections Clause to begin with is for Congress to retain the ability to regulate state elections, not confine the law-making abilities of states wholly within their legislative bodies(“The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but Congress may at any time make or alter such Regulations(emphasis added)).
They didn't do it for a specific candidate to win, they did it because of a worldwide ongoing pandemic. The PA law that expanded voting by mail was done by the legislature and was already in place before the whole pandemic thing even happened.
This is so weird because China is known for their hospitality and being really good people and not at all sinister and terrible.
We can only hope those who complain are arrested by the state just like the end of Fight Club. 😂
Paid thousands of dollars to be that stupid when he could’ve just went to the library for free and may have learned something.
I don't know that Nixon ignored the EV count certified by the state because I don't know which of those EV counts were certified - meaning by the state officials - and which weren't (Is it unconstitutional for states to certify. recertify & then recertify again?). Now if the state certified them all because they didn't know what the hell they were doing - not surprising because this was HI's first election & still not surprising from any part of government today - I'd think, but don't know, the last would be the valid one. BUT, they all came from HI officials, not some outside group.
What happened in 2020 - non-state "electors" - & HI's 1960 EV's don't seem in anyway related to me.
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I don't see that Nixon chose. He used the updated certification. And no one objected. To me, that means Nixon did the correct thing & didn't choose. Oh yes, he counted, not not counted as you propose he should have done.
As for ignoring the Constitution, what do you thing would have happened had Pence not followed the 12th Amendment of said Constitution? All hell wouldn't have broken loose? This whole discussion is F-ed Up.
By coincidence today,
"The United States desperately needs a Republican Party that is a sane alternative to the ruling Democrats (Meaning not Trump.) who have lurched to the coercive left. On that score, Americans should welcome Mike Pence’s stand Friday for constitutional principle on elections no matter its political cost."
"Mr. Pence explained that his decision was rooted in Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution. He rightly pointed out that the Founders were skeptical of concentrated power, which is why they created the Electoral College and gave states the authority to choose electors. The only power they gave Congress regarding the electoral tally is counting and certifying the votes. The Vice President’s role is ceremonial in presiding over that counting."
"Mr. Pence stands out as a rare Republican these days willing to stand up to Mr. Trump’s disgraceful behavior after the election. Too many in the GOP seem to have lost their constitutional moorings in thrall to one man.
The conventional wisdom now is that Mr. Trump controls the Republican Party and can have the 2024 nomination if he wants it. But someone should remind voters that Mr. Trump ended as a three-time election loser. He mobilized Democrats against him in historic numbers to cost the GOP the House in 2018, then the White House in 2020, and finally the two Georgia Senate seats in 2021.
Mr. Trump had significant policy successes, but Mr. Pence has received too little credit for his policy and personnel advice. His conservative network and instincts helped to avoid more than one Trumpian self-implosion. He was loyal to Mr. Trump, and the President repaid him by pressuring him publicly and privately to commit an unconstitutional act. Loyalty has always been a one-way street for Mr. Trump.
We wrote often during his Presidency that Democrats couldn’t defeat Donald Trump, but Mr. Trump could defeat himself. He did, and his post-election behavior compounded the harm to his party."
Opinion | Mike Pence’s Constitution
The former Vice President stands up to Trump, despite the potential political cost.
www.wsj.com
The Constituiton says this:
"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations."
Now What you say for these 2020 elections is correct. But it's up to the states, not Trump or any candidate, to assure their own laws are followed. That they didn't & certified anyway is a stain on them. But Jan. 6 is too late & certainly not by the VP.
I know the election was stolen. I think objective people know it too. My question to some of you is this:
what would happen to our country if the vice president just refuses to recognize a certified electoral college election result? Would that not lead us into a direction from which we couldn't return?
Imo our nation could not survive it. He did the only thing any person should do. Had their not been a certified result in a critical state, I think he could've and would've delayed. Given the certification, I think he did the right thing.
what would happen to our country if the vice president just refuses to recognize a certified electoral college election result? Would that not lead us into a direction from which we couldn't return?
Imo our nation could not survive it. He did the only thing any person should do. Had their not been a certified result in a critical state, I think he could've and would've delayed. Given the certification, I think he did the right thing.
Delayed what? If a state hasn't certified, there's nothing to count. So the count would have been done w/o the votes of the non-certified state. I can't imagine a state would put itself in that position though.
Thiel running for President? Offhand, I could support him. Need more info though.
"Peter Thiel, the tech investor and conservative provocateur who has advised Mark Zuckerberg for nearly two decades at Facebook parent Meta Platforms Inc., will step down from the company’s board after Meta’s annual shareholder meeting in May.
Thiel, 54, who became a director in 2005 after an early investment in Facebook, plans to increase his political support of former President Donald Trump’s agenda during the 2022 election and doesn’t want his political activities to be a distraction for Facebook, according to a person close to Thiel.
His focus will be on backing Blake Masters, JD Vance and others who advance the Trump agenda, the person added, referring to Republican candidates for U.S. Senate.
“Peter is truly an original thinker who you can bring your hardest problems and get unique suggestions,” Zuckerberg said in a statement. “He has served on our board for almost two decades, and we’ve always known that at some point he would devote his time to other interests.”
Thiel helped elect Trump president in 2016 by donating money and speaking on his behalf at the Republican National Convention. When Trump became president, Thiel worked on his transition team while nominating colleagues to fill government positions, including former Thiel Capital Chief of Staff Michael Kratsios, who served as the chief technology officer of the White House until last year. Thiel has continued to support Trump while meeting with members of the Republican Party and members of the far-right in recent years."
"Peter Thiel, the tech investor and conservative provocateur who has advised Mark Zuckerberg for nearly two decades at Facebook parent Meta Platforms Inc., will step down from the company’s board after Meta’s annual shareholder meeting in May.
Thiel, 54, who became a director in 2005 after an early investment in Facebook, plans to increase his political support of former President Donald Trump’s agenda during the 2022 election and doesn’t want his political activities to be a distraction for Facebook, according to a person close to Thiel.
His focus will be on backing Blake Masters, JD Vance and others who advance the Trump agenda, the person added, referring to Republican candidates for U.S. Senate.
“Peter is truly an original thinker who you can bring your hardest problems and get unique suggestions,” Zuckerberg said in a statement. “He has served on our board for almost two decades, and we’ve always known that at some point he would devote his time to other interests.”
Thiel helped elect Trump president in 2016 by donating money and speaking on his behalf at the Republican National Convention. When Trump became president, Thiel worked on his transition team while nominating colleagues to fill government positions, including former Thiel Capital Chief of Staff Michael Kratsios, who served as the chief technology officer of the White House until last year. Thiel has continued to support Trump while meeting with members of the Republican Party and members of the far-right in recent years."
If there was existing litigation or a judicial order stopping it. Of course the potential was there, Rudy just completely flopped. Would've probably been the toughest legal case to prove in history, but there was a chance. They never even got off the ground with a viable theory of liability
Would you like me to recount the months of BLM/Antifa riots, looting, killing etc.... and the Dem, media (same thing I know) and others who applauded their "mostly peaceful protests" while inner cities from Louisville to Portland were GUTTED. You think those riots were with merit because you support the stated idea or cover story for the riots and looting. CHAZ declared that they had succeeded from the USA. That is the definition of sedition. Yet you have a VPOTUS who donated (virtue signaled) to keep these rioters on the streets. Defund the Police!!!! I am sure you heard about it. So after MONTHS of watching NOTHING happen to criminals who attacked the Police, burned and looted businesses....you suddenly find it a problem that the other half of the folks decided, what the hell. Its our turn now. Those who punched a cop will suffer their penalty. Those who peacefully marched and were ushered into THEIR house (doing almost no damage) should suffer the same penalty as BLM and ANTIFA. THOSE are the facts.
OK, but come Jan. 6, they would have still counted the certified votes, right? The election & EV counting is a political process, not a legal one for courts to decide to stop.
Microtargeted?!?! Yep, got those 3 people off the fence and into camp trumpo. Good job, ruskies!
Vaccines do. Experimental gene therapy ... jury is still out. Lets see what happens to cancer rates in 10, shoot even 2 years.
Republicans pounce.
But ... no bias in the "media".
Why are people so stupid, and can NOT see this after decades? Of course, the people that still cannot see it are Dems ... so i guess i answered my own question.
Obama laughing again at the Climate Change idiots that believe what he sells.
CNN viewers are down 90% since takeover. More people see this thread than see CNN.
Receipts
ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
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You are correct and so am I at this point.
The Covid vaccines are working to save lives and reduce hospitalizations.
But you are correct....we do not know the long term risks of this vaccine.
I'm betting on the scientists over fear of the unknown. Time will tell.
Very misleading Tweet. CNN did NOT call it "An insurrection driven by madness". They were quoting the police chief in Ottawa.
Listen to the audio for yourself.
Is anyone in the corporation media covering this? Truthfully?
He won the election by razor thin margins. Coordinating with a hostile foreign intelligence agency/government on how best to benefit from the info they illegally hacked from your political opponent and country isn’t a good look. But ultimately people were free to choose who they wanted and no votes were changed. Liberals do lots of shady election shenanigans too, look at the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story. None of that is the same as getting the VP to unilaterally set aside the election.
2020 was also razor thin.
LOL>>>.... listened to that loser's "music"
incredible really what's become of the left, totally unfit for civilized society. how about you losers stop inculcating this nonsense so you can be taken seriously again?
LOL>>>.... listened to that loser's "music"
incredible really what's become of the left, totally unfit for civilized society. how about you losers stop inculcating this nonsense so you can be taken seriously again?
How about putting a tracking device in these. When they are used, they send a signal to the authorities to cone in for the arrest?
Interesting this is announced in February...
Wow. He is antifa ... what shocking news. Im sure corporatr media is doing wall to wall coverage of him, ala Sandman, right?
Show me ONE time I ever said the BLM riots were ok. I've never said that. Not once...not ever. The peaceful protests were fine. The riots, destruction of property, and violence were not.
I am consistent in my condemnation of those riots as well as the Jan 6th riot. Neither were ok. One doesn't deserve acceptance over the other.
To say that one riot is ok because it's my "peeps" rioting is the epitome of hypocrisy.
Any person caught destroying property or committing violence against the police should be arrested....Not pardoned like the Riot Ringmaster Trump has suggested this week. Any politician suggesting it's ok should be voted out (Maxine Waters).
Either riots/violence are wrong or they're not.
You can't have it both ways. Total hypocrisy on your part to excuse one over the other.
Btw...if you think they peacefully entered the Capitol...you may wanna check this out.
Proof? Several D-led investigations found nothing.
Take off your tinfoil hat, you conspiracy nut!!
Without the evidence presented from the States being contested in front of a national audience, I think he did too.
My issue isn’t that he didn’t as much as those saying he had no choice. There was a choice, but the evidence had to be presented to the nation, which the media absolutely will not do on there own, and the only chance the Republicans had was during State hearings that had just started when the riot started.
What is happening to our nation now, anyone with a lick of sense knows the election wasn’t secure at best, abd downright fraudulent at worst. We’ve got an MSM, and social media companies in lock step silencing opposing views.
At what point is it enough? Especially if our elections are suspect.
China and American oligarchs are trying to control of our Govt, and they’re winning at this point I’m afraid.
Read the article on FoxNews about his new mansion. I knew that a buddy of his had bought the 'Magnum PI' estate in Hawaii.....that's where Obama is building his new compound. Three houses, pool, security, etc. And if you remember the seawall in the show....I guess that's now against some type of regulation (something to do with tides and beach)...but of course he gets an exemption. Guess at high tide the ocean supposedly gets within 15 feet of the house.....yet he's a big dem/lib climate change, climate change alarmist.
Funny how a community organizer who has never had a real job....now owns three mansions.
He only played one on tv along with the majority of dem politicians.
In a country that he was never born in
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