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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
Nixon chose to ignore the electoral vote authorized by the State, and instead used the recount tally to give Kennedy the electoral votes.
He did exactly what you stated the VP couldn't do, and why did he do that? Because info had came to light after the State certified the electoral votes. 1500 ballots or so were "found" that had been missed in the original count which ended up erasing a Nixon 150 or so vote lead. In 2020 the States violated the Constitution, and outright cheated in several states.
As I already posted those conflicting sets of EC votes were both legitimate, signed by the governor. They met the “safe harbor” standard and the VP was therefore allowed to count them. Unlike Trump’s.
 
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As I already posted those conflicting sets of EC votes were both legitimate, signed by the governor. They met the “safe harbor” standard and the VP was therefore allowed to count them. Unlike Trump’s.
He still chose, the other difference is that the Hawaii election in 1960 didn't violate the Constitution, whereas the 2020 election did.
What do you think would happen if States simply ignored the Constitution, and a Republican were elected? All hell would break loose, Constitutional crisis would be on headlines cross country, media would be openly having orgasms on live TV, and the certification never would've happened, rightfully.
 
He still chose, the other difference is that the Hawaii election in 1960 didn't violate the Constitution, whereas the 2020 election did.
What do you think would happen if States simply ignored the Constitution, and a Republican were elected? All hell would break loose, Constitutional crisis would be on headlines cross country, media would be openly having orgasms on live TV, and the certification never would've happened, rightfully.
No question the Left's strategy will be to lift bans and try to "massage" economic numbers right before November.
 
He still chose, the other difference is that the Hawaii election in 1960 didn't violate the Constitution, whereas the 2020 election did.
What do you think would happen if States simply ignored the Constitution, and a Republican were elected? All hell would break loose, Constitutional crisis would be on headlines cross country, media would be openly having orgasms on live TV, and the certification never would've happened, rightfully.
You argue that what the states did was unconstitutional. List these unconstitutional actions. In the cases I'm aware of the state supreme courts ruled in favor of the actions taken. Which by definition makes them constitutional as constitutionality's the purview of the courts. Which constitutional issues specifically are you referring to where that wasn't the case?
 
You argue that what the states did was unconstitutional. List these unconstitutional actions. In the cases I'm aware of the state supreme courts ruled in favor of the actions taken. Which by definition makes them constitutional as constitutionality's the purview of the courts. Which constitutional issues specifically are you referring to where that wasn't the case?
The US Constitution states that only state legislatures at the state level can change election laws. That was not followed. Sec of States, Governors, and courts created or altered voting rules for 2020.
 
The Presidency is about much more than policies alone. They are the face, heart and soul of the nation. You can't enact policies that half the country likes while tweeting out "White Power" videos from the Villages in Florida. You can't put in Supreme Court Justices that half the country likes while saying the Presidential election is rigged before the election has even taken place....then hold rallies that result in our Capitol building being attacked and vandalized. Looking the other way as long as you like the policies on the books is BS.
That's like saying I love Jeffrey Epstein's Island parties and don't really care about that other silly stuff he's accused of.
That was word salad. I'd suggest you try that one again but include something other than wild non sequiturs. And maybe something actually true and not wildly out of context.
 
The US Constitution states that only state legislatures at the state level can change election laws. That was not followed. Sec of States, Governors, and courts created or altered voting rules for 2020.
That's why I asked for specifics, would like to research them. You seem very confident in your assertions so there must be some obvious cases you can show me to look into.
 
I still remember the night Trump tweeted about being wiretapped. Msm was overflowing with discussion about whether he should be removed on grounds of mental capacity. Few months later we find out he was absolutely wire tapped.

Fast forward to now and we have an actual dementia sufferer as a president yet no calls to replace him. Maybe it's because already knows he really isn't in control anyway
 
You do know that it was a GOP led Senate investigation committee that found Russia did interfere in the election right? The only debate revolves around Trump's level of involvement. That is debatable.
Russian interference is not.
Good lord....Russia Russia Russia. You are great with the half-truths. The GOP found NO collaboration at all with the Trump. Pretty much the same thing the Muller investigation found. Zip. A lot of nonsense for a couple hundred K in Facebook adds and no evidence that it convinced anyone to change their vote. I'd be more concerned with the Clinton campaign paying for a fraud.
 
Not sure about plastic but it's a scientific fact that vaccines reduce your chances of being hospitalized or dying from Covid.
Until the science evolves based on the data and etc, right, SCIENCE DUDE?

Good thing we're not using 500 year old techniques, and we cam absolutely rely on the surgeon ge.eral and the cdc and fauci for the correct knowledge and information.

Oh. Wait. No, we can't. Dang.
 
That was word salad. I'd suggest you try that one again but include something other than wild non sequiturs. And maybe something actually true and not wildly out of context.
Trump held a rally on Jan. 6th...election certification day....calling for the election to be overturned and for Mike Pence to decertify the election results.
Attendants from his rally broke thru barriers, attacked Capitol police, chanted "Hang Mike Pence", broke into the Capitol, took it over and stopped the vote for hours.
Mike Pence certified the vote anyway and recently said Trump was wrong to say he could have overturned the election. He also said it was UnAmerican and Unconstitutional to even attempt to overrule the will of the American people.
That is the truth. Those are the facts.
 
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He's more coherent than Joe Biden.
 
Trump held a rally on Jan. 6th...election certification day....calling for the election to be overturned and for Mike Pence to decertify the election results.
Attendants from his rally broke thru barriers, attacked Capitol police, chanted "Hang Mike Pence", broke into the Capitol, took it over and stopped the vote for hours.
Mike Pence certified the vote anyway and recently said Trump was wrong to say he could have overturned the election. He also said it was UnAmerican and Unconstitutional to even attempt to overrule the will of the American people.
That is the truth. Those are the facts.

None of those are facts. Lol.
 
You already know, the Constitution leaves no doubt as to whom can change or alter election laws.
In the Elections Clause's statement of "The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof;" the Supreme Court has interpreted "Legislature" to mean "the power that makes laws", not the actual bodies themselves, based on definitions from several dictionaries from the time of the framing. This has been Supreme Court precedent for over a hundred years with Ohio ex rel. Davis v. Hildebrant and Smiley v. Holm, recently reaffirmed in Arizona State Legislature v. Arizona Independent Redistricting Commission. I guess if your personal opinion is that all those cases are wrong then you have a point. But that isn't how our legal system works and you aren't going to get Trump a win in court over it.
 
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It appears to have some element of truth but it is an exaggerated truth. There are funds being spent on things like clean needle distribution (nothing new) as well as mouth pieces for crack pipes to avoid disease and cuts. These kinds of drug related programs have been around a long time.
Personally, I'm not a fan. I would prefer that my tax dollars not go to help drug addicts with anything other than prevention or therapy to stop taking the drugs.
 
Not sure about plastic but it's a scientific fact that vaccines reduce your chances of being hospitalized or dying from Covid.

Show me scientific proof of that without quoting any media source sponsored by a pharmaceutical company that has zero liability and is fighting in the courts to keep their safety data secret.
 
Sambowie. One thing I admire about you. For someone who generally has no clue what they're talking about, you confidently have no problem sharing your wealth of misinformation.
Thanks for throwing in the word "generally". I will take that as a sign of hope that my message of logic and scientific methodology is starting to take root. 😉
 
Absolutely. His narcissism and lack of sense of self awareness is on display as Bill pummels him
I linked over a hundred years of case law. All he has is his layman’s opinion. Even if he somehow got the Supreme Court to reverse precedent the states made those changes under the previous rulings so they wouldn’t be invalidated as they were constitutional at the time.
 
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