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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
The left has turned into a religion, hence the n-word being used regardless of context will now get you cancelled if you aren’t black. Rogan looks like an idiot apologizing for that. There was no harm with it. Context matters… we’re not in the 1400’s.

What is going to burn him is the planet of the apes stuff. That to me came across as very bad. There’s no context there.

He's painfully unfunny imo. I have no idea how he somehow came up via the comedy circuit. There are 1000 things he said over the years they he could be cancelled for. Noone cared until he crossed the wrong people.

Now I'm sure media matters has scores of trolls sitting through every ounce of content he every produced. Meanwhile Kimmel is in the clear despite black face, women jumping on trampolines, and oodles of sexist comments on the man show. All because he plays ball as requested
 
And the argument with poll tax equating to an ID.... We have the right to private property but the government regularly taxes that property. Is taxing a right illegal? I'd love to not pay taxes on lots of stuff. lol.
This highlights another problem at the core of our country. There is no real thing called "property". To illustrate, consider not paying your property taxes for several years. Unless you are a Dem or bigtime Dem donor, you will lose your "property" and be put in jail. We are all, in essence, paying rent. The USG, and by default (almost literally) Chimcoms, own us.
 
What’s funny about Democrats is not only did they rig the general election for Biden, they did the primaries as well. They were going to have their empty suit come hell or high water. Just read what’s on the monitor Joe and we’ll handle the rest.
 
Short answer ... no.

First, not accepting your premise of only GOP is disillusioned with voting. Last poll i saw (tifwiw), Over 50% of dems believe the 2020 election was fraudulent.

Second, the SECOND the fed govt gets involved, then this great experiment in freedom is over. If a state wants to issue "free" IDs then fine. (1. The IDs are not "free" ... only an ignorant person would think that. 2. MOST states do this now. GA for example offers an ID at no cost to those who cannot get the other dozen forms of acceptable ID.)

SO ... hard NO from the people who can think.
I'd have to see that poll. Extremely hard to believe. But thank you for being truthful. Guess the only answer is to boycott these rigged elections. Right?
 
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I'd have to see that poll. Extremely hard to believe. But thank you for being truthful. Guess the only answer is to boycott these rigged elections. Right?
Hey, you guys did it (meaning create this distrust). This stuff started waaaay before orangie. And, just like all the responses you are making to others, you are being disingenuous. I said, it is up to the STATES. No compromise on federal involvement.

This illustrates your problem ... you see an issue and immediately demand that your god, the federal government, come in and solve it. And you never question the motives of the people telling you to say this nonsense. Unless you are getting paid to say this nonsenseor you are simply a bot.

(Honestly ive been suspecting this for a while now. No one can come across as verbose and versed as you do AND be so ignorant of the human reality. I have no reason to believe you are a real person.)
 
Question for the thread. All Americans of every political persuasion benefit from free and fair elections. I've never personally supported voter ID laws for a handful of reasons, namely cost(poll tax), privacy issues(government database/registries), and voter suppression(lack of availability). I've never felt the gains in security were necessary and outweighed the possible disenfranchisement. But our country is obviously in difficult times. More than two-thirds of Republicans don't think our elections are fair. If we issued a free voter ID to every citizen and nationalized the standards/requirements, which is how it'd have to be done or it couldn't be implemented, would all of y'all's concerns be addressed and you'd stop all this nonsense? No illegals, dead people, or fake ballots like y'all allege. The government, and Bezos et al., already have all our information anyway. Would that be an acceptable political compromise? If Democrats really did cheat(they didn't), me and every person I know, be they left or right, wants to know and know that our elections are legitimate.
Even an elementary understanding of American history requires understanding machine politics and elections. Voter ID is a start but doesn’t fix that.
 
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I could be wrong, but think he was arguing the opposite. Interesting though, you link that, when it says this, "after the Democratic Party had generally regained control of state legislatures decades after the end of Reconstruction, as a measure to prevent African Americans and often poor whites (and following passage of the Nineteenth Amendment, women) from voting."
The DNC has a history of suppressing blacks, wanting to keep them on plantations. You could argue, an ongoing history.
 
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What’s funny about Democrats is not only did they rig the general election for Biden, they did the primaries as well. They were going to have their empty suit come hell or high water. Just read what’s on the monitor Joe and we’ll handle the rest.
The left cheats in a lot of ways. Do you recall Hillary being provided debate questions by CNN? How about blocking the totally true NY Post story about Hunter Bidens laptop. How about Dan Rather and the hoax TANG memo just before the election. How about Harry Reid lying about Romney taxes. They lie and cheat because they can.
 
Even an elementary understanding of American history requires understanding machine politics and elections. Voter ID is a start but doesn’t fix that.
They did cheat, hell, it’s plain as day.

There’s no need to nationalize elections, have voter id abd don’t ever vote line we did in 2020 when it was a free for all and elections laws were ignored or unconstitutionally overridden. Don’t allow private entity dump millions of dollars into certain districts to have access to ballots and provide drop boxes.
This isn’t rocket science, how the nation voted in 2020 is the opposite of a secure election.
 
They want unlimited time to have paid employees collect votes. Ballot harvesting is legal in several states. I’m my opinion the GOP should refuse to engage until that is worked out. You should have less than 3% mail in (absentee) and the rest “get your ass to the polls on Election Day”.
 
Pompeo went on Fox news to try and shit on Biden and got his ass handed to him

The Fox News host then played a clip of Trump defending the planned withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Afghanistan while he was still president.

"Basically we're policemen right now. And we're not supposed to be policemen. We've been there for 19 years in Afghanistan. It's ridiculous," Trump said in that clip at the White House.

[…]

"I just want to ask you one more question about your record though, sir," Wallace responded, pressing the issue. "You were the first American secretary of state to ever meet with the Taliban and you talked about how they had agreed to join us in the fight against terrorism."

The Fox News host then played a March 2020 clip of Pompeo saying that the Taliban had agreed to "work alongside of us to destroy, deny resources to and have [U.S. designated terrorist group] Al Qaeda depart from" Afghanistan.

"Do you regret giving the Taliban that legitimacy? Do you regret pressing the Afghan government to release 5,000 prisoners? Which they did, some of whom are now back on the battlefield fighting with the Taliban," Wallace asked Pompeo.

The former Trump administration official defended his record, saying "you make peace with your enemies." Pompeo remarked that his March 2020 statement "was absolutely true."
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But you said an ID is equivalent to a tax. Private property... you got a problem with taxing that or are you just gonna cherry pick little slivers of facts to fit your narrative?
A poll tax. A non-free ID required to vote is a poll tax. And poll taxes are illegal(unconstitutional technically) for federal elections because of the 24th Amendment. We're not talking about taxes more generally which are obviously legal and constitutional.
 
Would be a perfect time for another company to come in and sign him to a deal. Spotify and all the has beens will be screwed when a huge number of their customers decide to leave and follow him. They won't be paying the has beens the same kind of money after that I don't think.

Rumor is he’s out in front of it expected it and has a back up plan. FWIW.
 
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A poll tax. A non-free ID required to vote is a poll tax. And poll taxes are illegal(unconstitutional technically) for federal elections because of the 24th Amendment. We're not talking about taxes more generally which are obviously legal and constitutional.
You need an ID for other things so its not tied directly to voting. Property taxes on the other hand are a direct attack on private ownership of property. If I don't pay taxes on my property the government takes it. So who actually owns it? It doesn't cost $500 to get an ID. most states are somewhere between free and $15. How do you prevent illegal voters or people pretending to be other people without ID?

Funny thing is that polling shows Latinos are starting to break hard to the right. So I'd say dems will be pushing for border control and ID laws when it gets over 50%.
 
You need an ID for other things so its not tied directly to voting. Property taxes on the other hand are a direct attack on private ownership of property. If I don't pay taxes on my property the government takes it. So who actually owns it? It doesn't cost $500 to get an ID. most states are somewhere between free and $15. How do you prevent illegal voters or people pretending to be other people without ID?

Funny thing is that polling shows Latinos are starting to break hard to the right. So I'd say dems will be pushing for border control and ID laws when it gets over 50%.
None of which changes the fact that requiring documentation that costs money, any amount, is unconstitutional.
 
None of which changes the fact that requiring documentation that costs money, any amount, is unconstitutional.

Does this apply to the mask I had to purchase to be able to enter the building to vote? Of course, I could’ve always just mailed it in and take the risk of a crazy lib at the post office trashing it, crazy lib breaking in mailboxes and trashing it, or it getting tossed by the polling people (all of which happened in multiple places in the 2020 election).
 
None of which changes the fact that requiring documentation that costs money, any amount, is unconstitutional.
Your reasoning is so hit and miss yet you argue like you are the epitome of reason. If ID were free would you still have a problem with it? what if if taxes go up to provide ID for everyone....
 
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Your reasoning is so hit and miss yet you argue like you are the epitome of reason. If ID were free would you still have a problem with it? what if if taxes go up to provide ID for everyone....
If it's free it's fine. That's what started this whole conversation. Did you not read it before chiming in?
 
Does this apply to the mask I had to purchase to be able to enter the building to vote? Of course, I could’ve always just mailed it in and take the risk of a crazy lib at the post office trashing it, crazy lib breaking in mailboxes and trashing it, or it getting tossed by the polling people (all of which happened in multiple places in the 2020 election).
I don't know, would that be covered under apparel? Don't know if it's been legally challenged. Can you vote naked? Can't find if it's ever come up. Obviously there are bans on political apparel but are there dress codes in general? I think my polling place provided masks if you didn't have one. But yeah I would think under the current reigning precedent of Harper v. Virginia State Board of Elections's interpretation of the Equal Protection Clause in the 14th you can't require anyone to buy one. From the decision, "a state violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution whenever it makes the affluence of the voter or payment of any fee an electoral standard. Voter qualifications have no relation to wealth."
 
A poll tax. A non-free ID required to vote is a poll tax. And poll taxes are illegal(unconstitutional technically) for federal elections because of the 24th Amendment. We're not talking about taxes more generally which are obviously legal and constitutional.
That is why nearly every state, every state that i know of, provides an ID to anyone who registers to vote at no expense to the registrant. Just force the rest of us to pay for it...

THere is ZERO reason people shouldn't have to prove who they are when they vote. Unless you want to cheat, of course.
 
Seeing China being allowed to have these games after what they did to the world is beyond my comprehension. The world should have penalized them 10 times over but yet here we are….. They own our corporations, politicians, media, etc. It’s almost game, set and match of this country.
 
Question for the thread. All Americans of every political persuasion benefit from free and fair elections. I've never personally supported voter ID laws for a handful of reasons, namely cost(poll tax), privacy issues(government database/registries), and voter suppression(lack of availability). I've never felt the gains in security were necessary and outweighed the possible disenfranchisement. But our country is obviously in difficult times. More than two-thirds of Republicans don't think our elections are fair. If we issued a free voter ID to every citizen and nationalized the standards/requirements, which is how it'd have to be done or it couldn't be implemented, would all of y'all's concerns be addressed and you'd stop all this nonsense? No illegals, dead people, or fake ballots like y'all allege. The government, and Bezos et al., already have all our information anyway. Would that be an acceptable political compromise? If Democrats really did cheat(they didn't), me and every person I know, be they left or right, wants to know and know that our elections are legitimate.
From your OP: If we issued a free voter ID to every citizen and nationalized the standards/requirements, which is how it'd have to be done or it couldn't be implemented, would all of y'all's concerns be addressed and you'd stop all this nonsense?

Free voter ID for those who don’t / can’t have a driver’s license is fine to start. I just don’t like Secretaries of State invoking “emergency” powers to send out unsolicited mail-in ballots, setting up unsupervised drop boxes, and setting up de-facto ballot harvesting operations. I don’t like Mark Zuckerberg spending hundreds of millions of dollars to put Democratic operatives in local elections offices throughout Wisconsin, among other places.

I don’t like how putting in common-sense restrictions to the abuses we saw in 2020 (which certainly contributed to Trumps defeat) is attacked as racist. Reducing the number of early voting days from 15 to 10 is somehow a grave threat to democracy?

Your “proposal” for voter ID in exchange for “stop[ing] all this nonsense” is laughable.
 
That is why nearly every state, every state that i know of, provides an ID to anyone who registers to vote at no expense to the registrant. Just force the rest of us to pay for it...

THere is ZERO reason people shouldn't have to prove who they are when they vote. Unless you want to cheat, of course.
He knows this just as most others on the left do. It just tells us all we need to know about dims. They have no problem with corruptness and cheating as long as the result is getting what they want. These people are self-serving idiots who only want to take and not work for what they want. Entitlement culture who have no clue as to what the end result will be. It is like some I have talked to about disability money and welfare (abusers) The response is so idiotic it is scary. "That's what they set the money aside for." I have heard them say that the government has plenty of money and there is more than enough to handle the problem.
 
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From your OP: If we issued a free voter ID to every citizen and nationalized the standards/requirements, which is how it'd have to be done or it couldn't be implemented, would all of y'all's concerns be addressed and you'd stop all this nonsense?

Free voter ID for those who don’t / can’t have a driver’s license is fine to start. I just don’t like Secretaries of State invoking “emergency” powers to send out unsolicited mail-in ballots, setting up unsupervised drop boxes, and setting up de-facto ballot harvesting operations. I don’t like Mark Zuckerberg spending hundreds of millions of dollars to put Democratic operatives in local elections offices throughout Wisconsin, among other places.

I don’t like how putting in common-sense restrictions to the abuses we saw in 2020 (which certainly contributed to Trumps defeat) is attacked as racist. Reducing number of early voting days from 15 to 10 is somehow a grave threat to democracy?

Your “proposal” for voter ID in exchange for “stop[ing] all this nonsense” is laughable.
With all of this ID talk, how is it not everyone has an ID? Banking requires it as does receiving money/help from social programs as do Dr/hospital visits, pharmaceutical needs, and many other areas. If there are people who do not have an ID it is a very, very, very low number and those people could get one if they wanted. This excuse is clearly a lie to be able to cheat during an election. It does not stop any peoples to vote at all to require it.
 
A poll tax. A non-free ID required to vote is a poll tax. And poll taxes are illegal(unconstitutional technically) for federal elections because of the 24th Amendment. We're not talking about taxes more generally which are obviously legal and constitutional.
Every single voter ID law provides for ability to receive a free ID. Your poll tax comparison is a straw man. Will they allow you to vote naked? If you have to purchase clothes or pay for gas or a bus ticket to get your ballot is that a poll tax in your world? Can you provide evidence of anyone who wants to vote having been turned away?

Who exactly do you know who cannot figure out how to get a valid ID? Are you one of the leftist elite who look down your nose at black folks and believe they just are not smart enough to figure it out or to do much of anything without your benevolent assistance? If they don't think like you then "they just aren't black." The majority of black folks find your view offensive.
 
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