Exactly, why would they vote Biden when they were voting against the Fascist/leftist agenda in every other area of these states. That alone should tell anyone with a functional brain that there was cheating in the presidential election.
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Agree, but you leave out how he was savaged with fear porn over covid too. It may have been bigger than tweets.I can tell you from personal experience that there are many Republican voters who voted against Trump but for other down ballot Republicans.
I have multiple close friends or family members I know that voted for Biden but voted R for every other Republican on their ballot. One family member couldn't bring himself to vote for Biden or Trump but wrote in Mike Pence.
Trump turned off many suburban Republican and independent voters....(especially women and college educated) with his never ending Tweets and BS.
You far right wingers on here just can't imagine that others just don't see Trump the way you do.
How the Suburbs Moved Away From Trump (Published 2020)
Across all kinds of suburban counties, the president’s law and order appeal did not prevent a tilt toward Biden.www.nytimes.com
Not certifying is overturning the EV count; i..e., the actual true election, since some states EV's would not be counted in that case. Pence is right. What Trump & HIS lawyers believe is no more relevant than what I think.Pence is clamoring for attention.
Is he so insecure that he believes no one read the statement he released on the morning of 1/6/21?
Read: Vice President Mike Pence's statement breaking with Trump on Electoral College vote count | CNN Politics
Vice President Mike Pence released a statement on his role moments before Wednesday's joint session of Congress, saying that he cannot submit to demands he overthrow the results of the November election.edition.cnn.com
Using the term “overturned” is intellectually dishonest.
The whole issue was, and always will be, whether or not the VP had the right to not certify the electors from certain states, which had been contested.
They were not finalized until Pence approved/certified them. Hence, the whole 1/6 process.
This was not a secret. It was discussed for weeks leading up to the election. It was known that Trump and his lawyers believed Pence had the right to refuse to accept votes from certain states if Pence believed the validity of the election results was questionable enough.
It was also being debated privately whether or not Pence agreed with this, or if he would be willing to go through with it.
On the morning of 1/6/21, while Trump was speaking on the Ellipse, Pence released that statement, revealing his intentions.
Fine. His choice.
Now, go away and quit pretending like you are relevant.
Just an FYI /
the NOVA school districts got an Arlington judge to grant a temporary injunction against the Governor’s mask EO, thus allowing the schools to continue to deny an education (and punish) any student who refuses to wear a mask.
No actual hearing yet. Might as well assume that the local schools will win in local court, and it will take the state Supreme Court to eventually rule in the Governor’s favor.
Meanwhile, Fairfax schools apparently (quietly) dropped the vax mandate for student athletes this week.
No celebratory email announcing that change.
The good guys are winning. Keep up the fight.
🙏
the NOVA school districts got an Arlington judge to grant a temporary injunction against the Governor’s mask EO, thus allowing the schools to continue to deny an education (and punish) any student who refuses to wear a mask.
No actual hearing yet. Might as well assume that the local schools will win in local court, and it will take the state Supreme Court to eventually rule in the Governor’s favor.
Meanwhile, Fairfax schools apparently (quietly) dropped the vax mandate for student athletes this week.
No celebratory email announcing that change.
The good guys are winning. Keep up the fight.
🙏
is there a state by state count & percentage of votes only for President? Are there big differences in states Trump lost closely? Thanks.
We know your opinions. And no one is asking for them.
You are an attention-starved man.
Wouldn't count on that. VA SC likely liberal given they've been appointed by Dim-controlled Legislature or Dim Gov.
Then stop posting bs & you won't get them. And I don't need your permission to post. Ignore is widely available. You apparently don't realize it. Have a good day.
More on the 50-50 split pro/anti Russia:
"The Russian-controlled areas of Ukraine’s Luhansk and Donetsk regions were once the engines of the country’s economy and dominated its politics."
"Since then, however, the two areas—now nominally independent “people’s republics” inside the larger regions of Luhansk and Donetsk (I.e., parts of Donbas)—have turned into impoverished, depopulated enclaves that increasingly rely on Russian subsidies to survive. As much as half the prewar population of 3.8 million has left, for the rest of Ukraine, more prosperous Russia or Europe."
"“The nightmare that started in 2014 in Donetsk has transformed the popular attitudes in mostly Russian-speaking parts of Ukraine,” said Oleksiy Goncharenko, a lawmaker from Odessa, one of the cities in southern and eastern Ukraine rocked by large-scale pro-Russian protests at the time.
“Back in 2014, the majority here were undecided—their main priority was to keep living normally, working in their businesses, sending their kids to school,” Mr. Goncharenko said. “Since then, they’ve seen very clearly that life is quiet only in the areas where the Ukrainian flag remains. They said: We don’t want to live in such a zombie zone, in some kind of Somalia.”"
"“They’ve managed to rebuild a Soviet system in the occupied territories—and not the Soviet system of the 1960s and 1970s, but a Soviet system of the 1930s and 1940s, with dungeons, with torture chambers, a system where lives are ruined if you dare to write or say something negative about these republics and their authorities,” Mr. Aseev said."
So nothing has changed in 8 years? You think it's still 50-50 across Ukraine? LMAO.
Dismal Russian Record in Occupied Eastern Ukraine Serves as Warning
The areas, once engines of the Ukrainian economy, are now impoverished, depopulated enclaves that increasingly rely on Russian subsidies to survive. It’s what many fear could happen to the rest of the country if Vladimir Putin carries out a broader invasion.
www.wsj.com
He absolutely could’ve VH. If there are contests with evidence presented, which was about to occur, he could’ve rejected the states. This isn’t something new, it’s happened prior, and will happen in 2024.
What do you mean, "with evidence presented, which was about to occur," No evidence was presented, so it wasn't about to occur.
And I still think it's nuts to believe the Constitution ever intended for the President of the Senate, one member, to be able to stop an election. Each state had already certified their EV's. Done. The states acting for their people elect the President, not the VP.
VH wants a Mitt Romney or a Nikki Haley. Basically a liberal globalist posing as a conservative.
The reason VH is like this is because his liberal globalist pals like Mitch traitor McConnell and Brian Kemp helped Biden pull the heist of history of mankind
VH will always be butthurt Trump dared to stand up to his Turtleman Mitch. Now VH will come in and spout some bs about Mitch blocking Garland as some crowning achievement in his 40+ years in Congress. It probably is which is sad. While Mitch goes to DC galas with Biden, Schumer, Pelosi etc., and they compare they’re Chinese bankrolls laughing at saps like VH.
Unbelievable, the House abd Senate had just started the first Contested state, Arizona. There had been hearings in the state legislatures with evidence and testimony’s. The media had ignored it, they couldn’t ignore it being presented in Congress on national television.
States had sent alternate electors, this isn’t rocket science, it’s laid out the steps required and has happened in the past.
It’s one thing to hit on a statistical anomaly or impossibility in certain situations. But the sheer number of statistical impossibilities across the board in 2020 election made it blatantly obvious.
No, state legislatures didn't send alternate electors. Show me where they voted them in in place of those who cast EV's. Once the EV's are cast, it's over. And of course it's not rocket science because it's wrong.
Trump is public enemy number one to them, but not a single one can logically and legitimately explain exactly what threat he poses to anyone or what policies or agenda he had that was such a severe threat to our very existence.
Trump got in the way of their globalist agenda and was a barrier to their ushering in the Great Reset. Oh, and he mean tweeted.
Did a moderator move the Ukraine thread to the political thread? WTF
We cannot focus on an important world issue separate from the Political Thread?
We cannot focus on an important world issue separate from the Political Thread?
Yes they did. An Ashley Judd thread from Rafters got moved over here too. I believe a couple other threads were dumped over here as well.
They have literally tried to criminalize the mere questioning the integrity of the election. They have labeled anyone who does a domestic terrorist. I never thought I would ever see a day when literally half the country is now considered the enemy.
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Oxford researchers announced on Thursday that a new super-mutant HIV strain has been detected in the Netherlands which damages the immune system more quickly than the current versions of the virus.
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This is what makes the left as a whole so dangerous. It’s their stupidity and inability to think freely. They’re unable to look at the world realistically. If a liberal media or politician tells them the sky isn’t blue, they’ll believe it.
Things like a black conservative is actually a white supremacist. An insurrection is an unarmed one where they kill no one and grandmas are leading the charge. Riots beating people in the streets and burning buildings are “peaceful” protests. PTA parents are domestic terrorists for disagreeing with their kids being masked for 40hrs a week. Just look at the mess we are in with “covid” due to their mass ignorance and compliance.
This is what a country looks like when the nuts start running then nut house.
The Virginia Supreme Court won't let us down • Virginia Mercury
By Thomas Wolf, Esq. This is for my fellow Democrats who fear having Virginia’s redistricting map determined by the Virginia Supreme Court, all of whose members were elected by a Republican-controlled house of the General Assembly. Don’t worry. Having practiced before that court, interacted with...
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“the Virginia Supreme Court, all of whose members were elected by a Republican-controlled house of the General Assembly.”
You post so much, yet you know so little.
Bill -
I’m not responding to the poster who responded to you, but you were right.
There were dual slates of electors that came from AZ, GA, MI, PA, WI, and I believe even NM.
They were not from the legislatures in those states, but you did not say they were. And that’s what libs and liars do. They argue against a point that you didn’t even make.
The dual slate was sent to highlight the controversy around the elections in those states. In effect, that the election was being “contested” in those states.
Some were hopeful that at a minimum, Pence would send the votes back to those respective states, demand an Audit, etc. (Ted Cruz, for example, was considering asking for a delay in the count, to give time for an Audit. It would not have been enough time, but it would have given some validity to the Trump administration’s argument and forced the media to cover the fact that the election was not yet certified by Congress).
Sen. Cruz: We Have an Obligation To the Constitution To Ensure That This Election Was Lawful | U.S. Senator Ted Cruz of Texas
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The “breach” is what ruined all of this. So again, who was behind the breach?
“Just run the presses — print money.”^ September 3, 2020.
-Ancient Orange Proverb
I know it is. And in Donbas it’s greater than 90% based on your article. And and the Russians are propping that region up and as I stated and you ignore Russia has had a military presence boots on the ground since 2013. You think because people flee a war torn region they automatically align with western values? You don’t know the dynamic complexities of Ukraine if you believe that.More on the 50-50 split pro/anti Russia:
"The Russian-controlled areas of Ukraine’s Luhansk and Donetsk regions were once the engines of the country’s economy and dominated its politics."
"Since then, however, the two areas—now nominally independent “people’s republics” inside the larger regions of Luhansk and Donetsk (I.e., parts of Donbas)—have turned into impoverished, depopulated enclaves that increasingly rely on Russian subsidies to survive. As much as half the prewar population of 3.8 million has left, for the rest of Ukraine, more prosperous Russia or Europe."
"“The nightmare that started in 2014 in Donetsk has transformed the popular attitudes in mostly Russian-speaking parts of Ukraine,” said Oleksiy Goncharenko, a lawmaker from Odessa, one of the cities in southern and eastern Ukraine rocked by large-scale pro-Russian protests at the time.
“Back in 2014, the majority here were undecided—their main priority was to keep living normally, working in their businesses, sending their kids to school,” Mr. Goncharenko said. “Since then, they’ve seen very clearly that life is quiet only in the areas where the Ukrainian flag remains. They said: We don’t want to live in such a zombie zone, in some kind of Somalia.”"
"“They’ve managed to rebuild a Soviet system in the occupied territories—and not the Soviet system of the 1960s and 1970s, but a Soviet system of the 1930s and 1940s, with dungeons, with torture chambers, a system where lives are ruined if you dare to write or say something negative about these republics and their authorities,” Mr. Aseev said."
So nothing has changed in 8 years? You think it's still 50-50 across Ukraine? LMAO.
Dismal Russian Record in Occupied Eastern Ukraine Serves as Warning
The areas, once engines of the Ukrainian economy, are now impoverished, depopulated enclaves that increasingly rely on Russian subsidies to survive. It’s what many fear could happen to the rest of the country if Vladimir Putin carries out a broader invasion.
I don’t know where you’ve been outside of the USA and to what purpose but the globe is filled with propaganda on every part. The USA pumps as much propaganda as any region in the world. you should probably check at least 4-5 international sources on the subject instead of one.
^ September 3, 2020.
If you were to look up the word Alzheimer. It should show this picture of Joe Biden.
Question for the thread. All Americans of every political persuasion benefit from free and fair elections. I've never personally supported voter ID laws for a handful of reasons, namely cost(poll tax), privacy issues(government database/registries), and voter suppression(lack of availability). I've never felt the gains in security were necessary and outweighed the possible disenfranchisement. But our country is obviously in difficult times. More than two-thirds of Republicans don't think our elections are fair. If we issued a free voter ID to every citizen and nationalized the standards/requirements, which is how it'd have to be done or it couldn't be implemented, would all of y'all's concerns be addressed and you'd stop all this nonsense? No illegals, dead people, or fake ballots like y'all allege. The government, and Bezos et al., already have all our information anyway. Would that be an acceptable political compromise? If Democrats really did cheat(they didn't), me and every person I know, be they left or right, wants to know and know that our elections are legitimate.
Joe Rogan will be out at Spotify very shortly.
Update. Really hope this guy is the next POTUS.
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