Chomsky doesn't believe that everyone should get paid the same regardless of what they do. Neither do I. Equality doesn't mean equal pay for everyone. It's proportional and fair. It's not a utopia either.
I don't know. How did the current Potus do it?...I never said there weren't people born with silver spoons in their mouths, but there are lots of people who wern't and they did it. All i'm saying is if you want what the CEO gets nobody is going to give it to you. If you want that you must go get it...sorry life is not always fair. I am nowhere near being "wealthy" as you say and the only thing I begrude millionaires is I'm not one of them
It concerns me that you are so adamant about something that you readily admit to not knowing that much about. Another question for you. If production is collectively determined, how does investment happen? Who invests? How does innovation happen? Think about some of these things for yourself and don't just buy into what he says without questioning if any of it makes sense.
One other question? You said you have done very well for yourself. Was it handed to you, or did you earn it? Were you from elite wealth and have what you have because of that? If not, how did you succeed and why can't anyone do it?
I earned it. I played by the rules of the game. Doesn't mean I agree with the rules. A lot of people do not have the same opportunities I had growing up. I've seen that first hand. This system can work for some but not the majority. In regards to your other questions above, I don't have all the answers. Maybe one day I will. But the basic tenets that define Libertarian Socialism I agree with and I will further explore them. Maybe one day I will change my mind, change my philosophy. Maybe I will decide Chomsky was full of it. I'm allowed to do that. But maybe I won't. At this moment, I know that the gap between the very wealthy and the poor is growing larger and larger by the day. I know I want that to be fixed. I know that our government is ran by big business and I want that fixed. I know that we as a society aren't truly allowed to participate in policy decisions and I want that fixed. I know that we have done some shady/criminal/imperialistic things in the past and continue to do them I want that fixed. I know that if we continue to elect these puppets we aren't going to fix any of the above.
Yeah, I'm anti-American too. Geez. What have I said that's ignorant and insane?
DBB...You are ok just a different view point and that is what makes America great. I would like you to consider though what your thoughts are with this. If you went into the poor parts of America and gave 10 people 250K each in two years time how much money do you think they would have and actually have something to show for it besides maybe a new car . I'm saying to you that the government cannot give people enough money to get them out of poverty if they don't want it and do the things it takes to get out. I'm not saying it is easy and that is where I would like to see those folks who are in the 1% you speak of step in and give a hand up to some of these kids and adults as far as educating them.
Specifically, what propaganda have I regurgitated? More importantly, what is incorrect about what I said? It's very easy to criticize when you add nothing but BS.
This post here puts you in the stupid people category you referenced in the former post. You obviously don't realize that most politicians are greedy.
Typical liberal response, when defeated just move on or change the subject.
Sure you are, you are just masking it. Most of the CEO's and owners of companies take big risk in forming and running the companies. Risk most are not willing to make to get things started. Now, you want your "fair share" for not taking the risk. Not saying you should not get paid for your worth, in fact, I am all for raising the minimum wage over $10.00 and hour to possibly get some of those who make more from handouts than they would working the current wage. But, you do not deserve much more if you are not putting forth the effort to make it.
This is it in a nutshell, simplistic and easy to understand. Why don't more people see it though?
Some people's heads on here would probably explode if I spent the time to explain how I grew up. There is one who knows that reads these forums and he could tell you. My last three years of high school I lived in a bin that was built to store corn which had no electricity. Well, that was my room anyway shared with my brother. That is just a small part and I won't get into the long drawn out story. I joined the military to get away from my life and have made my way to where I am today. 58 years old Retired military, civil servant, wife works for a military contractor and we both make a decent amount of money (Middle class lifestyle). Her story mirrors mine as far as growing up poor quitting school before the 11th grade to get a job in New York City after father abandoned them (3 kids) and mother just quit trying because he left so, we have both struggled to get where we are. But, we have made it this far off of our own determination which is why I am against handouts to those who are able but too lazy to put forth the effort.
Real reform would take guts and we would take a hit economically for the first few years but, it would be worth it in the long term.
