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You stated one of your values was equal justice under the law. I pointed out we all don’t have equal justice under the law. Why does it matter to you that poor people don’t get equal treatment, but you don’t care that black people don’t either? If it was really one of your values you’d care about both.
Because that was the comment I was referring too.
I do care that everyone gets equal justice, but posting a study that simply says blacks and whites receive different sentences for the same crime in federal cases is ridiculous. Why just blacks and whites, why not break it down to all races?

You immediately reach for racial bias as the reason, without knowing any of the circumstances, even the article doesn’t state that.
 
Because that was the comment I was referring too.
I do care that everyone gets equal justice, but posting a study that simply says blacks and whites receive different sentences for the same crime in federal cases is ridiculous. Why just blacks and whites, why not break it down to all races?

You immediately reach for racial bias as the reason, without knowing any of the circumstances, even the article doesn’t state that.
It stated the study controlled for other factors. I even bolded that part. And you stated you cared about equal justice under the law. You brought it up, not @Fact_Checker. You didn’t specify economically. So you’re saying you only care that justice be applied equally to the poor and rich, but not blacks and whites?
 
It stated the study controlled for other factors. I even bolded that part. And you stated you cared about equal justice under the law. You didn’t specify economically. So you’re saying you only care that justice be applied equally to the poor and rich, but not blacks and whites?
The study was on federal crimes, that weren’t listed. Was it no federal crime history or no criminal history. We’re there aggravating circumstances, crimes don’t just fall into convenient squares.

I am for equal justice, but you’re assuming that the only reason there is a difference is racial. Because it fits your box, you don’t want to break it down any further.
You should read the study and not the headline.
 
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The study was on federal crimes, that weren’t listed. Was it no federal crime history or no criminal history. We’re there aggravating circumstances, crimes don’t just fall into convenient squares.

I am for equal justice, but you’re assuming that the only reason there is a difference is racial. Because it fits your box, you don’t want to break it down any further.

Lol, everything is racist.
 
Your party is a dying political ideology. Like Fascism and Monarchism before you, it will die as people continue to realize that it offers very little to solve real world solutions. Be mad about it. Younger generations will continue to get more progressive as times goes on. Once boomers die off the republican party will die with them.

Also Trump cheated in 2016. I have no proof outside of hearsay but hey that's all you guys have about 2020 and you swear up and down that you have irrefutable proof.

Just know when you mock democrats for being dumb that the majority of trump voters are uneducated white dudes that have never experienced life outside of their own towns. Continue holding onto that weird hope that Trump somehow won, even though he very clearly didn't (though he did accomplish being the first republican president to lose Arizona and Georgia since 1948)

I cannot wait to read the replies to this because I need a good laugh at people who struggle intellectually :)
Thanks for proving my point.

On the off chance this isn't just another sock acct for Dim/Sammy/DragonQueen, you may want to give the keyboard back to your mommy and tell her the orange man invaded your safe space ...
 
I'm not caught up in anything. I think freedom of speech has never been stronger. We basically allow lies to be told non stop by our politicians and some of our press. Some people just say whatever they want constantly regardless of how dangerous it is.

An equal and blind justice system would see the poor have similar sentencing across the board for the same crimes as the rich. That doesn't happen in the US.

We did do shutdowns. But the majority approved of them and our democratically elected officials chose to enact them. That sounds like democracy working to me.

By the media censoring other means of treatment for Covid what I think you mean is the media is bringing on experts that are saying these treatments are not valid. I don't think any media member on Earth was in a patients room telling a Dr how to treat that patient. Many Dr's gave the treatments you are talking about even though the vast majority of Dr's agreed they were not worthwhile treatments. That sounds like freedom for the physicians and patients to me, regardless of what the media reported.

What I have heard in your statements though is that you want free speech but you also don't want the media to say things you don't like or express views you don't agree with. Which is it? Sounds like you don't really understand what free speech and free press means.
Lol. I'd still love to know which liberal loser alt this is.
 
The study was on federal crimes, that weren’t listed. Was it no federal crime history or no criminal history. We’re there aggravating circumstances, crimes don’t just fall into convenient squares.

I am for equal justice, but you’re assuming that the only reason there is a difference is racial. Because it fits your box, you don’t want to break it down any further.
It said they controlled for criminal history, as well as other factors. I specifically bolded it. You’re trying to invent reasons to ignore data you don’t like. Which one of us is adjusting reality to fit their narrative here? Be honest.
 
It said they controlled for criminal history, as well as other factors. I specifically bolded it. You’re trying to invent reasons to ignore data you don’t like. Which one of us is adjusting reality to fit their narrative here? Be honest.

Well, if that's what they said.

Women receive far more lenient sentences than men for the same crime, but it's not because judges hate men. The reality is you can't really adequately account for all variables... the only real privilege is can you afford quality representation, which they never even bother to consider.

Which is incidentally the real issue here. Your lot hate the competent; you hate people better off or more successful than you and want them brought back down to your level in the name of equity.
 
It said they controlled for criminal history, as well as other factors. I specifically bolded it. You’re trying to invent reasons to ignore data you don’t like. Which one of us is adjusting reality to fit their narrative here? Be honest.
You specifically bolded a statement from the article. Read the study, I just did. They only had violent crime statistics for 2016, they created the other years numbers.

What narrative am I trying to fit here? You want to blame it solely on race, without knowing any of the data on the cases, criminals or judges, that is the way a child thinks.
The crimes aren’t sentenced in one huge block, they are individual cases with different sets of circumstances.
I’m always honest.
 
Look at all this white privilege in the judicial system...or is me too over?

From the article, "The Supreme Court agreed to review two aspects of the case that Cosby’s lawyers challenged. The first involved the judge’s decision to let prosecutors call five other accusers. The other examined Cosby’s argument that he had an agreement with a former prosecutor that he’d never be charged."

So was he released because of a procedural issue and a previous payoff?

Well, on the plus side, I can watch "Himself" and not catch crap about it. "push ... push .... Dad is great! Gives us chocolate cake! But Dad, I'm Jesus Christ!"
 
Don't give up on second place just yet chief...Cubs have not only lost 5 in a row but they scored 7 runs in the top of the first today and are currently losing 15-7 in the sixth...

Reds making it to second place in the central division? Wow, you and warrior and your other reds fans would drink for days celebrating that accomplishment. That is like Kentucky beating Florida in football for you guys...
Yes, yes it is.
 
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You specifically bolded a statement from the article. Read the study, I just did. They only had violent crime statistics for 2016, they created the other years numbers.

What narrative am I trying to fit here? You want to blame it solely on race, without knowing any of the data on the cases, criminals or judges, that is the way a child thinks.
The crimes aren’t sentenced in one huge block, they are individual cases with different sets of circumstances.
I’m always honest.
I’m genuinely asking here, are you a moron? Just the quote I posted stated the multiple years studied. You don’t even have to read the article let alone the study. But just in case, from the article

A separate analysis that controlled for a history of violence — but only for fiscal year 2016, due to a lack of data for other years — produced similar results.

Your reading comprehension is so abysmal you’re either an idiot or being willfully disingenuous.
 
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