Fine. Point still stands.People keep saying 3rd string quarterback. The 2nd stringer will be back and have a month to prepare.
Are they better than Bama who just beat No. 1?
Fine. Point still stands.People keep saying 3rd string quarterback. The 2nd stringer will be back and have a month to prepare.
Fine. Bama beat No. 1. Who else has done that this season? No one.FSU wouldn't have their third string QB for the playoff. They'd have a month to prepare for a game with their second string who would be recovered by then. And they're defense is elite. There's more to a football team besides their QB.
What UGA did the previous two years is 1000% irrelevant. This is about this year and this season.
Bama beat LSU pretty good too. It was a nice little win.With their starter...who's now injured......
We can play this game all day.
Even with their 2nd QB they didn't beat anyone other than LSU so they absolutely did NOT deserve to be in. Being #5 is a slap in the face to Georgia and as much as I hate them OSU.You're going to sit there with a straight face and tell me the a FSU with a 3rd string QB is better than the SEC Champion who BEAT NUMBER ONE. A team that hadn't lost in 2 years? Now THAT'S disingenuous.
And lost to No. 3 on the road. In a game that came down to the 4th Qtr. in Week freaking 2.Bama beat LSU pretty good too. It was a nice little win.
Look. UK beat UL on their home field and FSU struggled with UL. FSU needed to blow out UL to earn that playoff spot and didn't do it. And that is all there is to it. If you don't like it, tough stuff.The SEC had a losing record in OOC games against P5 opponents including 4-6 against the ACC. Hell, Georgia’s second closest regular season game was against Georgia Tech. I know you believe there’s a massive gap between the SEC and the rest of college football. In 2023, the objective data does not support that conclusion.
Completely different team than they were the first 11 games. The best 4 teams are playing, with the exception of the fact the UGA is one of the 4 best.13-0
1st Power 5 undefeated to not make the playoffs and will be the last as Playoffs move to 12 teams next season.
If FSU somehow beats Georgia in the Orange Bowl to finish 14-0 and either a 1 loss Texas or Bama wins the FF the committee will have some questions to answer.
Neither of us are changing our mind here. I just think if a P5 team goes 13-0 and wins their conference title they deserve a shot. That was the point of the playoff, to avoid another 2004 Auburn situation. I haven't checked every year, but I'd guess there isn't a single year in modern college football history where a 13-0 P5 champion isn't ranked top 4 in the final pre-bowl rankings.Fine. Bama beat No. 1. Who else has done that this season? No one.
Alabama scored the last two touchdowns. It was 28-28 late in the 3rd quarter in Tuscaloosa.Bama beat LSU pretty good too. It was a nice little win.
Georgia is gonna be pissed they didn’t get in the playoff and win that game 54-7.13-0
1st Power 5 undefeated to not make the playoffs and will be the last as Playoffs move to 12 teams next season.
If FSU somehow beats Georgia in the Orange Bowl to finish 14-0 and either a 1 loss Texas or Bama wins the FF the committee will have some questions to answer.
They probably deserves a chance but everyone knows the SEC teams are better. In fact 2 1 loss SeC teams are better than any of the undefeated teams. Leaving the 2 time Defending NC out is criminal to me.Neither of us are changing our mind here. I just think if a P5 team goes 13-0 and wins their conference title they deserve a shot. That was the point of the playoff, to avoid another 2004 Auburn situation. I haven't checked every year, but I'd guess there isn't a single year in modern college football history where a 13-0 P5 champion isn't ranked top 4 in the final pre-bowl rankings.
The only reason it happened this year is because the CFP and ESPN couldn't leave the SEC out of the playoff because the SEC drives ratings and revenue more than any other conference. This is all way too subjective for me to think it's anything other than a popularity contest at this point. And that's not how you should determine a champion.
I really don't care who people think is the best team. That's why we play the game, to determine who actually wins. Lesser teams beat better teams all the time.
So Bama outscored LSU by a greater margin after being tied at 28 than FSU did UL for the whole game.Alabama scored the last two touchdowns. It was 28-28 late in the 3rd quarter in Tuscaloosa.
Being a two time champion is completely irrelevant. We're trying to determine a 2023 champion here, not a 2022 or 2021 one. Previous year's results don't matter at all.They probably deserves a chance but everyone knows the SEC teams are better. In fact 2 1 loss SeC teams are better than any of the undefeated teams. Leaving the 2 time Defending NC out is criminal to me.
💯Their top 2 quarterbacks are out. It’s not the same team. They can cry all they want but that was a weak ass conference all year. Georgia has by far the biggest gripe. Tells me that the SEC needs to quit playing an end of the season championship game.
Again, it says in their own selection criteria that they can and will take injuries to key players into consideration; especially so if it alters the performance and makeup of the team. So, I ask again, is FSU the same team they were with Travis?Neither of us are changing our mind here. I just think if a P5 team goes 13-0 and wins their conference title they deserve a shot. That was the point of the playoff, to avoid another 2004 Auburn situation. I haven't checked every year, but I'd guess there isn't a single year in modern college football history where a 13-0 P5 champion isn't ranked top 4 in the final pre-bowl rankings.
The only reason it happened this year is because the CFP and ESPN couldn't leave the SEC out of the playoff because the SEC drives ratings and revenue more than any other conference. This is all way too subjective for me to think it's anything other than a popularity contest at this point. And that's not how you should determine a champion.
I really don't care who people think is the best team. That's why we play the game, to determine who actually wins. Lesser teams beat better teams all the time.
Bahahaha why wouldn’t anyone want a 10 win team!!? Bahahaha
When UGA demolishes FSU, and they will because now they are pissed off, will you change your tune?Being a two time champion is completely irrelevant. We're trying to determine a 2023 champion here, not a 2022 or 2021 one. Previous year's results don't matter at all.
And sports aren't about who we think is better. It's putting two teams on the field and seeing who wins. The 17-0 Patriots team was clearly better than the Giants, but they lost. Titles should be awarded on the field, not in a boardroom.
FSU won every single game they played in a conference that has a winning record against the SEC. They earned a shot.
Because they are the worst 10 win team in the country.Bahahaha why wouldn’t anyone want a 10 win team!!? Bahahaha
Rodemaker will be back for FSU’s bowl game unless for some reason he hits the portalTheir top 2 quarterbacks are out. It’s not the same team. They can cry all they want but that was a weak ass conference all year. Georgia has by far the biggest gripe. Tells me that the SEC needs to quit playing an end of the season championship game.
I won't. Because I'm not arguing that FSU is better than Bama or UGA with their backup QB. I'm against the fact that we aren't giving these playoff spots to the most deserving team, especially when the criteria has been the four most deserving teams in previous years. I think sitting in a board room and choosing the four teams the committee just thinks are the best fundamentally goes against why sports are played. It's about proving it on the field and in my opinion FSU earned the right to try to prove it on the field.When UGA demolishes FSU, and they will because now they are pissed off, will you change your tune?
That’s not what I responded to. You falsely implied that Alabama had dominated LSU in a similar fashion as Florida State did. I simply corrected that error.So Bama outscored LSU by a greater margin after being tied at 28 than FSU did UL for the whole game.
FSU is a good little team. They just aren’t a serious contender for the national Championship. Same for LSU.
If FSU wanted to get in they shouldn’t have lost at home by 10 points. They shouldn’t have struggled with USF. They shouldn’t have struggled with Arkansas. They shouldn’t have struggled with Texas A&M. They shouldn’t have needed a miracle win to beat a 6-6 Auburn team. Oh wait, that was Alabama.
Bama is getting on SEC bias and their name. You can say FSU didn’t look great without Travis, but Bama hasn’t looked good in a lot of their games either.
I would’ve had FSU in over Texas if UGA won. Not putting in an undefeated conference champion because of an injury is crazy to me. There’s more to football than the QB.Neither of them have.
If Georgia had won would u be saying the same thing if Texas was 4th over fsu?
There is no doubt about that. The ACC was actual trash this year. I’m convinced we could have contended in the ACC with our crappy team this year.Because they are the worst 10 win team in the country.
All the ACC had to do was win convincingly in the last two weeks. They couldn't.
Then you're being dishonest. IF FSU is demolished by UGA, they didn't deserve to be there. And it shows that by the committee's own rules, they made the right decision.I won't. Because I'm not arguing that FSU is better than Bama or UGA with their backup QB. I'm against the fact that we aren't giving these playoff spots to the most deserving team, especially when the criteria has been the four most deserving teams in previous years. I think sitting in a board room and choosing the four teams the committee just thinks are the best fundamentally goes against why sports are played. It's about proving it on the field and in my opinion FSU earned the right to try to prove it on the field.
The criteria changes week to week and year to year anyway. The committee picks their favorite four teams and justifies it after the fact with whatever argument helps them make their point. The point of the playoff was to avoid another 2004 Auburn situation. And here we are twenty years later with an even worse snub.
College football is the only sport where we determine a champion more or less based on feelings and not on field results. The playoff made that a little better because now at least four teams got a shot. But in no other year in the modern history of the game would FSU not be ranked in the top 4 at this point in the year.
True or False: If UK lost Levis, were they the same team?I would’ve had FSU in over Texas if UGA won. Not putting in an undefeated conference champion because of an injury is crazy to me. There’s more to football than the QB.
I would’ve had FSU in over Texas if UGA won. Not putting in an undefeated conference champion because of an injury is crazy to me. There’s more to football than the QB.
That’s what everyone thought in the TCU-Michigan game last year. That’s why they play the game.Fair enough. And uga by 35 in that scenario. Michigan by 24 to 28 if they had played fsu.
Michigan might lose to alabama.
That's why alabama got in. They are better.
That’s what everyone thought in the TCU-Michigan game last year. That’s why they play the game.
If FSU was ranked 7th all year and then got left out that’s one thing. They’re getting left out because of an injury to 1 player and I don’t think that’s right. I think if the roles were reversed it was Alabama or Ohio State losing their QB they would’ve still been in.
There was no error to correct unless you think those 14 points don’t matter.That’s not what I responded to. You falsely implied that Alabama had dominated LSU in a similar fashion as Florida State did. I simply corrected that error.
How do you know Alabama would’ve looked impressive post injury? They looked awful as recently as last week.Because alabama and osu would have looked impressive post injury like osu in 2014 did.
How do you know Alabama would’ve looked impressive post injury? They looked awful as recently as last week.
The ACC had a winning record against the SEC.The ACC was actual trash this year.