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OT Florida State gets reamed

Fsu almost lost to Florida, bc, Clemson and Miami. Tell the whole story buddy.

It doesn't matter. Fsu was correctly left out.

Michigan has to play a team with a pulse to earn a title now. If bama wasn't in they would have cake walked to the title.
The whole story is FSU is undefeated and Bama is not. This whole "it's not the most deserving teams it's the best teams" is complete BS. If that's the case why are we even playing the games? You find out who the best teams are on the field, not in a boardroom.

Both teams have a few games they barely won. If Auburn doesn't completely choke we aren't even having this conversation. But at the end of the day one of them is undefeated and one isn't. If we care this much about conferences and who we think is better then let's just decide the playoffs in September based on what conferences we think are the best and who has the most 5 star players.

At the end of the day FSU is undefeated. In my opinion that's as far as the conversation needs to go. An undefeated P5 conference champion should always be in the CFP, unless for some reason theirs 5 of those. It doesn't matter for the future anyway because we're moving to 12 teams, but this was incredibly unfair to FSU.
 
Georgia not getting a shot to defend their title is way more controversial to me than fsu.

Uga was clearly the best team all season and lost by 3 to another top 4 level team and got left out.
Then what are we even doing here? Why even play the games if we can just throw out the results of the games and say "well these are the four teams that have looked the best". It's ridiculous we've gotten to the point where results on the field don't matter.
 
What’s the point of playing the games if you don’t take the most deserving? FSU would have lost to Michigan by double digits with its current injuries but they earned the right to get trucked due to their better regular season resume.

ESPN with its thumb on the scales picking teams based on TV numbers and bets placed at their new sports betting app. Shambolic.

 
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For the whining FSU supporters, if they played Bama tomorrow would you pick them to beat Bama?
Unless you are a blooming idiot, you know who wins that game by a lot.
 
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If Travis was healthy, they should have ... and would have ... been in.

Their resume was built around him. Without him they had two mediocre performances against average teams (teams that UK beat).

If Alabama and FSU played next week ... does anyone think FSU would beat them? That is the difference.

This this and this some more.

This convo would be irrelevant if uga had just beat bama.

I winder if there would be this same faux outrage if Texas had been the 4th team.
 
KY beat UL on it's home field. FSU couldn't pull away from UL. FSU just not good enough "at this point" in the season to be there. They have had a big change on that team nobody can ignore.
 
I’m imagining the outcry on this board if UK finished 12-0 and won its conference but its best players were hurt, they’d lose first round by 20+ points, so the committee left them out. Posters at CI would be livid.

I don’t care for FSU but if it were Kentucky I’d be pissed. What else could they have been expected to do? All so ESPN can make more money. It’s not sport it’s infotainment.
 
I’m imagining the outcry on this board if UK finished 12-0 and won its conference but its best players were hurt, they’d lose first round by 20+ points, so the committee left them out. Posters at CI would be livid.

I don’t care for FSU but if it were Kentucky I’d be pissed. What else could they have been expected to do? All so ESPN can make more money. It’s not sport it’s infotainment.

The scenario you presented is a hypothetical that would never happen so I cant relate.
 
Part of the criteria is the availability of key players. Jordan Travis is out, FSU is not the same team. No one wants to watch a depleted FSU team get slaughtered by Michigan. Committee got it right. I don't understand how people don't understand this. Even UK put up 38 on Louisville and our offense was booty.
 
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The whole story is FSU is undefeated and Bama is not. This whole "it's not the most deserving teams it's the best teams" is complete BS. If that's the case why are we even playing the games? You find out who the best teams are on the field, not in a boardroom.

Both teams have a few games they barely won. If Auburn doesn't completely choke we aren't even having this conversation. But at the end of the day one of them is undefeated and one isn't. If we care this much about conferences and who we think is better then let's just decide the playoffs in September based on what conferences we think are the best and who has the most 5 star players.

At the end of the day FSU is undefeated. In my opinion that's as far as the conversation needs to go. An undefeated P5 conference champion should always be in the CFP, unless for some reason theirs 5 of those. It doesn't matter for the future anyway because we're moving to 12 teams, but this was incredibly unfair to FSU.
I bet Michigan is relieved. 😅 They definitely dodged a bullet for not having to face FSU. Their chances certainly improved.
 
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1st Power 5 undefeated to not make the playoffs and will be the last as Playoffs move to 12 teams next season.

If FSU somehow beats Georgia in the Orange Bowl to finish 14-0 and either a 1 loss Texas or Bama wins the FF the committee will have some questions to answer.
Tried to tell all you hard heads last night that no way FSU was getting in after losing their starting QB and that debacle against UL on national TV.

They had absolutely no business being in the playoff.

The way they are playing right now, should be in the Birmingham Bowl. Music City, at best.
 
I totally agree that Michigan would have "slaughtered" FSU in a semifinal game. I also believe strongly that Alabama will beat Michigan in the same game. All you need to know about the committee's decision.
 
Tried to tell all you hard heads last night that no way FSU was getting in after losing their starting QB and that debacle against UL on national TV.

They had absolutely no business being in the playoff.

The way they are playing right now, should be in the Birmingham Bowl. Music City, at best.
Not sure what the debacle was. They're defense is elite. They were playing their 3rd string QB, which isn't the QB they'd have for a playoff game. Winning a P5 conference championship game with a 3rd string QB means the rest of your team is very good. There's more to a team than a QB.

But if going undefeated doesn't matter then why even play the games?
 
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For the whining FSU supporters, if they played Bama tomorrow would you pick them to beat Bama?
Unless you are a blooming idiot, you know who wins that game by a lot.
But it was OK to include Cincinnati a few years ago who won an even worse conference and played, iirc, one ranked team all year long? Before the season, if you'd have said FSU would go unbeaten, beating LSU, Clemson, Florida and win the ACC championship, no way would anyone think they're getting left out. No way.

Maybe today that aren't one of the four best. But, a month of reps for QB2 and, just maybe, he's noticably better and we have a replay of 3rd string OSU QB wins the championship.

If the criteria all along has been 'the eye test', the regular season and conf championship games become very much less important. ACC is trash? How did they have a winning record vs SEC?

I love the SEC but I watch a lot of CFB every year and the SEC isn't the only good conference with elite players. The hubris of some on this board is comical.
 
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For the whining FSU supporters, if they played Bama tomorrow would you pick them to beat Bama?
I hate this argument. Why even play the games if we're just deciding things based on Vegas spreads or who we think would win? Teams win games they shouldn't all the damn time. Results on the field matter, not who some committee sitting in a boardroom thinks would win.

The committee is picking teams for TV ratings and money. That's all this is. It's turned college football into the WWE.
 
Not sure what the debacle was. They're defense is elite. They were playing their 3rd string QB, which isn't the QB they'd have for a playoff game. Winning a P5 conference championship game with a 3rd string QB means the rest of your team is very good. There's more to a team than a QB.

But going undefeated doesn't matter then why even play the games?
Did you watch their game???
If you did, you know that game was plain old offensive (pun intended) with ZERO offense from either team.

In what world would a team who only scored 16 points on a mediocre team(UL) that another mediocre team(UK) that finished near the bottom of their own conference and didn't get within 3 touchdowns of Bama or Georgia, yeah, that team, hung 38 on the second place team in the ACC, in what world would that team get invited to be one of the 4 best teams in the nation??

Liberty was undefeated. What about them? Did they deserve to be in the playoffs?
 
The issue is the committee for months now used the phrase” 4 best teams” if that’s the case then they made the correct decision, there may even be an argument for UGA. The 4 best teams as of right now got put in. FSU got screwed over but the committee did exactly what they said they were gonan do
The issue is that the committee changes their arguments to make a case for whatever four teams they want in the playoff. They're now arguing it's the best 4 teams. But if FSU was the team that passed the eye test and Bama barely squeaked by to an undefeated conference title with their 3rd string they would absolutely use the "most deserving" argument to justify putting Bama in the playoff. There's zero consistency.
 
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1st Power 5 undefeated to not make the playoffs and will be the last as Playoffs move to 12 teams next season.

If FSU somehow beats Georgia in the Orange Bowl to finish 14-0 and either a 1 loss Texas or Bama wins the FF the committee will have some questions to answer.
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