OT Florida State gets reamed
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They had their chance to prove it and they failed to convince anyone they are better than Alabama. Like I said, no one believes FSU is better than Bama. So they didn’t prove anything. They beat a bunch of mediocre teams and 1 good team. They don’t belong, even if the QB was healthy, and he’s not. Beat UGA the. They can talk. Otherwise, they earned nothing.
If playing a more difficult schedule doesn’t matter, then what’s the incentive of playing in a difficult conference? As of November this year, Alabama’s strength of schedule was rated 3rd, FSU was 50th, according to American Sports Betting. Do you honestly believe that is comparing apples-to-apples?
You’re arguing with a contrarian or an ACC guy. No human being on this earth honestly believe FSU is better than Alabama.
New Mexico State boat raced Auburn on its home field. Alabama needed a miracle to beat Auburn. See how that works?
I'm neither of those two. I just think results on the field should matter. And a 13-0 P5 champion should always get into the playoff unless for some reason they're five of those.
Sports aren't about "who we think is better." It's about going out there and winning games. And FSU did that in every game they played this year. If that doesn't matter than why are we even playing the games? Just award the title to whoever we think is best and call it a day.
More histrionics. FL St did not get "reamed". The committee gets to pick four teams. Someone has to finish #5 and #6. Under the circumstances, leaving AL out would have been inexplicable. If anyone got "reamed", it was GA but AL did that to them yesterday.
If you had said FL St did all they could do, you would be correct. Being undefeated has never been a guaranteed ticket into the playoffs, and there have been many examples. What we are seeing now is a transition from "power five" to "power two". ACC football is no longer considered to be at the elite level. You can make of that whatever you want.
Alabama also beat LSU, Tennessee, Georgia, Ole Miss and Texas A&M. Now do FSU and you have your answer.
You’re doing it again. Based on this logic, the quality of your opponents are irrelevant.
It doesn’t matter. The vote happened, and it’s the right vote. When/ if you tune in to the CFP, you’ll be watching the best four teams play. We don’t need anymore Georgia vs. TCU playoff games.
Did FSU beat the consensus #1 team in a championship game? See how that works? All games matter, but I think the SEC championship game is just too big to ignore. The SEC is the best conference by far and is the reason UK would never sniff a 4 team playoff system.
I'm not doing anything. The point of the playoff was to avoid a 2004 Auburn situation. If you run the table in a P5 conference you got a shot at a title. It's that simple. Is there a single other year in modern college football where an undefeated P5 team isn't a top 4 team going into bowl season?
The CFP is 100% about ESPN getting the matchups that make the most money for them. It's not a real playoff system. This has proven without a shadow of a doubt it's a farce.
No clue why you're mentioning TCU. They beat Michigan in the semis so they obviously belonged in the CFP. If we're just going to dismiss any non-SEC team then let's just do away with the whole thing and make the SEC title game the national championship.
They’re gonna get reamed by Georgia in their Bowl game. Not all power 5 conferences are built the same.
The SEC had a losing record in OOC games against P5 opponents including 4-6 against the ACC. Hell, Georgia’s second closest regular season game was against Georgia Tech. I know you believe there’s a massive gap between the SEC and the rest of college football. In 2023, the objective data does not support that conclusion.
I mean I would be pissed if it were UK but i’m biased. Looking at it objectively they don’t deserve to get in over Bama or Georgia.
This is literally the exact opposite of objectively. Subjectively Bama and Georgia look like better teams. But who looks better isn't how you award a championship in sports. If that were the case the undefeated Patriots team would have been awarded the Super Bowl because they sure as hell looked better than the Giants that year.
Objectively FSU is 13-0 and Bama and Georgia aren't. That's really should be the end of the argument.
Four ACC “wins” were against Vandy and SC with a 5th against a rudderless TAMU team. ACC is garbage and the committee knew it.
Objectively I will bet you any amount of money on Georgia over FSU. You award a playoff spot to the 4 best teams. That’s literally the rules. FSU is already nearly a 2 TD underdog.
54 teams played a tougher schedule than FSU. They won their powder 5 conference championship beating loserville.
They are NOT one of the top 4 teams.
They are NOT one of the top 4 teams.
Those are literally not the rules. The committee has used the "most deserving" argument in the past to justify including undefeated teams that didn't pass the eye test. They did it for Notre Dame, because Notre Dame is a high profile brand that generates more money for ESPN.
That's the problem. They pick their four most preferred teams and then come up with the argument to justify it after the fact.
They do matter. The results on the field lead everyone in the world to believing Alabama is better than FSU. Youre saying only wins and losses matter. Which is not a smart or consistent take or you'd be saying Liberty should be in the playoff.
EXACTLY. Who would Michigan rather play, FSU or Bama. The answer to that question alone says which is the better team.
Who gives a shit. Neither team will be at full strength because its a meaningless game that the intelligent players with NFL futures will bypass and neither team will be motivated at all because there is nothing to play for. Just like 95% of all college bowls. So UGA beating FSU in a bowl game is meaningless. And it will be meaningless if FSU beats UGA, too.
Their own rules literally state that injuries can and will be taken into consideration. FSU has a injured starter. It is what it is.
If FSU doesn't have an injured player.....
IF UGA doesn't suffer a loss to a T10 team by 3 points.....
IF Ohio St. beats Michgian,
etc, etc, etc.
It comes down to conference strength. The ACC is not good. The SEC has much higher competition. So did the B1G in 2014. They put up 16 on a meh UofL.
44% of the time the CFP champion has been a team with a backup QB because the starter was injured. To act like that can't happen with FSU, who has an elite defense, is disingenuous.
The only thing a team has control over is if they win. And FSU did that 13 out of 13 times. They deserved a shot.
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The ACC has a winning record against the SEC this year. FSU boat raced LSU.
You're going to sit there with a straight face and tell me the a FSU with a 3rd string QB is better than the SEC Champion who BEAT NUMBER ONE. A team that hadn't lost in 2 years? Now THAT'S disingenuous.
Wasn’t Auburn undefeated when it was not invited to the playoffs several years ago??
Well, the same committee had FSU at #4 before they won the ACC championship. How did they drop by winning by 10 points over the #14 ranked team? If the clearly weren't one of the top 4, why were they ranked at #4 prior to the game last night?
This is pretty much it. Just like how they suddenly decided on the spot that winning a conference championship game was a requirement in 2015 to put Ohio State in over TCU and Baylor teams that had been ranked ahead of them all year. The committee seems really hesitant to exclude the big brand names if there’s any justification they can latch on to in order give them a spot, which leads to inconsistent criteria year to year. That’s what’s frustrating to so many fans.
People keep saying 3rd string quarterback. The 2nd stringer will be back and have a month to prepare.
FSU wouldn't have their third string QB for the playoff. They'd have a month to prepare for a game with their second string who would be recovered by then. And they're defense is elite. There's more to a football team besides their QB.
What UGA did the previous two years is 1000% irrelevant. This is about this year and this season.
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