Official Steph Curry is GOAT thread

[DSmith21]

Hmm, Steph Curry is still playing and the others are not - interesting. Also, Steph won SI Sportsman of the Year this year. He's impact not only on the court, but in the world is far reaching. He might have surpassed Lebron for most popular global icon in basketball. GOAT indeed.

Kobe and LeBron are head and shoulders above Curry among recent players considered all time greats. Those two are legitimate two way super stars. Heck, CP3 is the best point guard of this era. He scores (more career points than Curry), is a 9x all NBA defender and is top 5 in all time assist and steals. Curry is just a big scorer (the greatest 3 point shooter) but has never made an all defense team and is not even in the top 40 for career assists and steals. The Bucks smoked Curry (6-17 shooting) and the Warriors (14-14) tonight. I guess he will need another night off to recover.

 

[Wesley91581]

Tonight GSW fell to a paltry 2-13 on the road - hard to say any team with a GOAT would allow that to happen. Steph reminds me more and more each day of a slightly better Peja Stojaković or Hedo Turkoglu with a much better supporting cast than those two had.

 

[lakercat]

Tonight GSW fell to a paltry 2-13 on the road - hard to say any team with a GOAT would allow that to happen. Steph reminds me more and more each day of a slightly better Peja Stojaković or Hedo Turkoglu with a much better supporting cast than those two had.

You cannot be serious. Steph nearly carried them to a win tonight, but he got hurt by BLOCKING a shot. Again, Steph is the best shooter, best passer, best ball handler, and is playing excellent defense. He might be out for a few games, though. If it wasn't for the injury, he was gonna get 50+.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

You cannot be serious. Steph nearly carried them to a win tonight, but he got hurt by BLOCKING a shot. Again, Steph is the best shooter, best passer, best ball handler, and is playing excellent defense. He might be out for a few games, though. If it wasn't for the injury, he was gonna get 50+.

That's what happens when you have to carry the load, you get banged up and the injuries pile on. A few years ago, he could rely on Klay to be a stout wing defender, but now he can't. And he's finding out how difficult life is without a prime Klay, Dray, KD and elite bench..

If Harden and Curry switched teams, it would be Harden with 3-4 rings, being talked about as one of the great players of this era, and it would be Curry who would have a pile of injuries, likely holding him back from being anything more than a regular-season 40pt guy, as he tries against his will to carry a team that's just OK year after year.

The team around you matters. It's a big reason why Curry is where he is, and other greats are still trying to win rings and prove themselves. ANY top35 player is winning with that Golden State team from 2016 to 2022.

 

[Wesley91581]

Nets put up 91 in a half on the GSW!

 

[Wesley91581]

 

[Wesley91581]

Is this the year Luka wins the MVP?

Mavs have won 5 in a row and after that 60/20/10 performance Luka has definitely got more momentum toward his mvp accolades

 

[CaptainBoogerBuns]

Maybe merge this with the Political thread.

 

[Wesley91581]

Shew if Luka keeps this up

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Shew if Luka keeps this up

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I mean, steph curry is not better than him right now. That much is a given. Luka might never get the hardware, but plenty of great players are never even in a position to get the hardware.

Not only is Luka a better player right now, I'd rather have him for a 20 year career than Steph.

 

[lakercat]

I mean, steph curry is not better than him right now. That much is a given. Luka might never get the hardware, but plenty of great players are never even in a position to get the hardware.

Not only is Luka a better player right now, I'd rather have him for a 20 year career than Steph.

Steph is more efficient, plays better D, and gets no calls from the refs. Luka whines incessantly. Luka is playing great, but it's been five games. Steph has been transcendent for a decade now. You see how bad the Warriors are without him; can you believe that he dragged that team to a championship last year?

 

[DSmith21]

Steph is more efficient, plays better D, and gets no calls from the refs. Luka whines incessantly. Luka is playing great, but it's been five games. Steph has been transcendent for a decade now. You see how bad the Warriors are without him; can you believe that he dragged that team to a championship last year?

Two years ago Curry couldn't "drag" the Warriors to even make the playoffs. Last year, Wiggins played at an All Star level and Poole was one of the best 6th men in the league. The Warriors are a loaded team so stop acting like Curry is pulling off some miracle. This year the team was .500 with Curry. Since Curry's injury (Wiggins has also been out a month), they are pretty much the same but have managed to win 4 in a row (their longest streak of the year). And just stop it about Curry's defense. He is nothing special on defense and never has been. Curry is part of their defensive woes and can't even stay healthy anymore.

 

[DSmith21]

This year, Luka vs Curry is not even close as a complete player. Luka is only 23 years old and his best days are ahead. All he needs is a better supporting cast.

Pts/Ast/Rb/Stl/Blk/FG%
Luka 34.2/8.9/8.7/1.7/0.6/51.1%
Curry 30.0/6.8/6.6/1.0/0.3/50.0%

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Steph is more efficient, plays better D, and gets no calls from the refs. Luka whines incessantly. Luka is playing great, but it's been five games. Steph has been transcendent for a decade now. You see how bad the Warriors are without him; can you believe that he dragged that team to a championship last year?

You realize that the GSW I think are almost .500 SINCE Curry has been injured (and Wiggins for that matter)? He has had arguably the best team around him as any super star has had, maybe ever.

Again, no big name player has been carried more than Steph Curry and its laughable to think it's the other way around. Golden State would be a playoff team if he left tomorrow. That's something that would not happen if guys like Giannis and Luka and KD left their teams.

 

[lakercat]

Clutch Curry carries Warriors again without Klay, Iggy, and Kuminga. Steph goes off for 41, including 12 in the fourth quarter when the game was in doubt. Poole had one great quarter (second with 23 points), but it was the GOAT who came alive late (Curry did have a cold stretch of 4-16 shooting, but hit four shots in a row in the fourth). Double-team makes no difference.

GOAT List

1. Curry
2. Lebron
3. MJ

 

[the nail at the foul line]

Clutch Curry carries Warriors again without Klay, Iggy, and Kuminga. Steph goes off for 41, including 12 in the fourth quarter when the game was in doubt. Poole had one great quarter (second with 23 points), but it was the GOAT who came alive late (Curry did have a cold stretch of 4-16 shooting, but hit four shots in a row in the fourth). Double-team makes no difference.

GOAT List

1. Curry
2. Lebron
3. MJ

You should stop.

This is silly.

Embarrassing.

 

[DSmith21]

The warriors are 2-2 since Curry came back from injury against four teams at the bottom of their divisions (Suns, Spurs, Bulls and Wizards). One of those losses was at home to Phoenix who was without four starters. They got their butts kicked and Curry stunk in that one. Golden State is the second worst team in the NBA in turnovers and their defense ranks near the bottom too. They better fix that or they may not even make the playoffs.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

I think this thread has become mostly a troll attempt at this point. No one is reading this thinking "man this guy brings up some good points" and it's clear it's extreme fanaticism.

And to what Dsmith said above.. the warriors really aren't that bad when Curry is out.. they're like a .300 to .400 team without him when he got injured.. and some of those games were also without Wiggins.

Its clear that golden state is a pretty decent team even without him.. something that's never the case for the real superstars when their team needs to win without them.

 

[DSmith21]

I think this thread has become mostly a troll attempt at this point. No one is reading this thinking "man this guy brings up some good points" and it's clear it's extreme fanaticism.

And to what Dsmith said above.. the warriors really aren't that bad when Curry is out.. they're like a .300 to .400 team without him when he got injured.. and some of those games were also without Wiggins.

Its clear that golden state is a pretty decent team even without him.. something that's never the case for the real superstars when their team needs to win without them.

The Warriors went 6-5 without Curry (injury) in December and early January. They are 22-22 overall.

 

[Wesley91581]

Incredible!

 

[LineSkiCat14]

His team had a winning record with out him over this past stretch.. 7-5.

Since he came back? 0-2.

I'm not sure there's a more overrated "superstar" in sports history. When superstars leave their team (when they aren't old and past their prime), their teams becomes trash.. or at the very least, they become middle of the road. They CERTAINLY don't become BETTER when the star leaves lolol.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

And for all the hate James Harden gets. He had the Rockets at 44 wins in his final season (which he was half way out the door anyways), and the very next year we win 17 games and are last place in the NBA. We won 20 games the season after that, and we have just 15 wins this season.

Say what you will about him, but THAT is how a superstar carries his team and proves his worth.

 

[Wesley91581]

 

[lakercat]

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Say what you want, but Curry outscored Milwaukee 20-8 in the last 1:51 of regulation and in OT. 20 points in six minutes! Overcame an eight-point deficit to win tonight. But it would have been a bad loss for the Warriors, at home, against a Milwaukee team minus Giannis.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Say what you want, but Curry outscored Milwaukee 20-8 in the last 1:51 of regulation and in OT. 20 points in six minutes! Overcame an eight-point deficit to win tonight. But it would have been a bad loss for the Warriors, at home, against a Milwaukee team minus Giannis.

Not just Giannis, but Middleton is still being worked back into the rotation.

There's nothing left to say. He's relying on star players being out to win games when his team could make the playoffs without him.

 

[DSmith21]

Golden State is 1-3 since Curry returned from his latest injury. They got smoked the other night by Memphis who was playing without Ja Morant and two other key players. Where was the gloating then or for the other two losses?

 

[Wesley91581]

Klay with a cool 33 in the first half carrying the GS to another home win!

 

[lakercat]

Happy Birthday to Steph! I am flummoxed by all the hate. Steph is really close to another 50-40-90 season. If he continues to shoot well, he could possibly surpass his shooting efficiency that he had in 2015-16.

 

[DSmith21]

Curry will likely miss 30 games this season before it's over. He hasn't been able to stay very healthy for the past 5-6 years.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Happy Birthday to Steph! I am flummoxed by all the hate. Steph is really close to another 50-40-90 season. If he continues to shoot well, he could possibly surpass his shooting efficiency that he had in 2015-16.

That's about all he's going to accomplish this year.

 

[lakercat]

Curry will likely miss 30 games this season before it's over. He hasn't been able to stay very healthy for the past 5-6 years.

After that Masterpiece last night, Steph is now firmly in the 50-40-90 club, again. He was 15-18 during one stretch of the game! But his team is garbage, especially on the road. It's like they forget how to play. Warriors are 2-4 with Steph coming back (could have been 1-5). Steph is shooting almost 60% over his last five games, including 55% from three. Sick. 12-14 from inside the three-point line. Sick, especially at 35. I will say, if there is anyone who has benefitted from load management, it would be Steph. He still has two or three elite years left (unless he suffers a major injury). Guys are playing at an elite level longer, but Steph's shelf life is extended because he does not rely on athleticism to be elite.

If the Warriors can get GP2 and Wiggins back playing at the level he was, the Warriors can win it. Are the role players mature enough to buy into their roles?

 

[Wesley91581]

After that Masterpiece last night, Steph is now firmly in the 50-40-90 club, again. He was 15-18 during one stretch of the game! But his team is garbage, especially on the road. It's like they forget how to play. Warriors are 2-4 with Steph coming back (could have been 1-5). Steph is shooting almost 60% over his last five games, including 55% from three. Sick. 12-14 from inside the three-point line. Sick, especially at 35. I will say, if there is anyone who has benefitted from load management, it would be Steph. He still has two or three elite years left (unless he suffers a major injury). Guys are playing at an elite level longer, but Steph's shelf life is extended because he does not rely on athleticism to be elite.

If the Warriors can get GP2 and Wiggins back playing at the level he was, the Warriors can win it. Are the role players mature enough to buy into their roles?

Steph is a volume shooter obviously he doesn’t play any defense hence the horrible road record this year.

Jordan/Lebron would welcome the challenge to defend the other teams best player but Steph just wants to launch 30 footers and dance!

 

[Get Bucket$]

After that Masterpiece last night, Steph is now firmly in the 50-40-90 club, again. He was 15-18 during one stretch of the game! But his team is garbage, especially on the road. It's like they forget how to play. Warriors are 2-4 with Steph coming back (could have been 1-5). Steph is shooting almost 60% over his last five games, including 55% from three. Sick. 12-14 from inside the three-point line. Sick, especially at 35. I will say, if there is anyone who has benefitted from load management, it would be Steph. He still has two or three elite years left (unless he suffers a major injury). Guys are playing at an elite level longer, but Steph's shelf life is extended because he does not rely on athleticism to be elite.

If the Warriors can get GP2 and Wiggins back playing at the level he was, the Warriors can win it. Are the role players mature enough to buy into their roles?

When/how did you become such a big golden state fan? Were you a lakers fan prior to that?

 

[Wesley91581]

 

[Wesley91581]

Think it’s obvious even in this era Lebron is far superior - Lebron leading his team to a road victory meanwhile chef curry is putting up nothing burgers against the kings!

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Think it’s obvious even in this era Lebron is far superior - Lebron leading his team to a road victory meanwhile chef curry is putting up nothing burgers against the kings!

Wild to think people actually believed this. But it was really just Curry fans and people who hated Lebron and were trying to find whoever they could to replace him. The thought that Curry was better than Lebron never had any legs for anyone who actually follows the NBA.

I'd go as far as to say that Curry is closer to his brother than he is to Lebron. He just has this very unique gift of bombing 3's from anywhere on the court, and doing it for a few years before people caught on, all while never having to really cvarry the load because GSW have had top3 talent for almost a decade now, something that's finally coming to an end.

Can you think of a player that's so God-like from one area of his game (3pt shooting) and yet so simply just "decent" from everywhere else? It would be like a field goal kicker who has never missed from 50-yards, but he's middle of the pack from 40 and in.

 

[DSmith21]

Can you think of a player that's so God-like from one area of his game (3pt shooting) and yet so simply just "decent" from everywhere else? It would be like a field goal kicker who has never missed from 50-yards, but he's middle of the pack from 40 and in.

Dennis Rodman comes to mind. He is in the hall of fame for his unreal defense/rebounding but not much else. Rodman has 5 rings as a key cog on loaded teams (sound like anyone).

 

[Wesley91581]

Wild to think people actually believed this. But it was really just Curry fans and people who hated Lebron and were trying to find whoever they could to replace him. The thought that Curry was better than Lebron never had any legs for anyone who actually follows the NBA.

I'd go as far as to say that Curry is closer to his brother than he is to Lebron. He just has this very unique gift of bombing 3's from anywhere on the court, and doing it for a few years before people caught on, all while never having to really cvarry the load because GSW have had top3 talent for almost a decade now, something that's finally coming to an end.

Can you think of a player that's so God-like from one area of his game (3pt shooting) and yet so simply just "decent" from everywhere else? It would be like a field goal kicker who has never missed from 50-yards, but he's middle of the pack from 40 and in.

If talking just 3 pointers then peja stoyovic and hedo turkalew (sp) comes to mind - dude was automatic from 3 but couldn’t really do much else

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Yeah, hahha, those are good ones for sure.

It would be funny to make his "Madden rating".

3pt Shooting - 100
defense - 46
clutch factor - 60
passing - 83
mid range game - 85
toughness - 5
Athleticism - 5
rebounding - 58 (I'm not impressed that he can rebound his own long misses)
cockiness - 100

 

[lakercat]

Yeah, hahha, those are good ones for sure.

It would be funny to make his "Madden rating".

3pt Shooting - 100
defense - 46
clutch factor - 60
passing - 83
mid range game - 85
toughness - 5
Athleticism - 5
rebounding - 58 (I'm not impressed that he can rebound his own long misses)
cockiness - 100

This is the most asinine post; it's clear you hate Steph, and therefore, you're going to discount what Steph does. He does more than shoot threes; he has one of the best handles in the NBA; he is one of the best passers in the league. He is an above-average rebounder for a guard, plays good defense, and is a leader, unlike Kyrie, Doncic, etc. Additionally, he's one of the strongest guys on his team, and he never gets calls. Just imagine if he got refs like Lebron, Jordan, Harden, Doncic, etc. He's 35, and is still playing like a top five player. I don't think he's head-and-shoulders above everyone else, but he's definitely in the Superstar level and will continue to do so. His game seems to age like fine wine. He was almost as good statistically as he was in 2015-16. Obviously, durability becomes a factor as he gets older. I mean, Lebron takes plays off, plays no defense unless he feels like it, and is elite 50 games a year.

Madden Rating:

3PT Shooting: 100
Midrange: 100 - shoots about 55% from 10-23 feet
Finishing at the rim: 100 - gets fouled everytime, and still shoots 75% at the rim
Dunking: 70 - because he never does, even though he can
Defense: 75 - Above Average, but not elite
Steals: 85
Shot Blocking: 66 - great for a guard
Passing: 95 - one of the best in the league
Ball Handling: 97 - one of the best in the league, maybe Kyrie
Durability: 70 - getting old
Toughness: 93 - Never gets calls, but does get injured - mentally, he's one of the toughest
Athleticism: 78 - more athletic than you think
Rebounding: 80 - Great for a guard
Clutch Factor: 80 - Great at sticking a dagger, but not so good with <10 seconds
Cockiness: 100 - definitely true
Effort: 100 - Dude cares about what's going on, unlike some other players