Nazis are coming to town

[Larry Skaggs]

The actions of Mayor Jim Gray are bringing the alt-right to Lexington. Did you vote for this? I didn't. Now the neo-nazis and the KKK will be running around UK campus trying to recreate 1930's Germany. The lunatic alt-left will show up to make UK campus look like 1935 Berlin.

I hope the governor calls up the National Guard and tells them to keep the street vermin away by any means necessary. I hope the only way these clowns make it to UK is if they are brought to the emergency room at UK hospital

 

[UKWildcatT]

Lol, this is what the people pulling the strings want man. They thrive on it - divide and conquer, trying to make everyday folks choose between nazis and communists

Don't fall for it! Ignore it! They thrive on attention

 

[Tskware]

I think they will be at the old Courthouse defending Confederate statues. I wonder if all the people who want to defend "history" understand that 3/4 of Kentucky soldiers fought for the Union? Where are all the Union statues?

I think the statues should be moved and preserved, just not at the old courthouse. Why not move the John Hunt Morgan statue to the Hunt Morgan house on Mill Street, in Gratz Park, as just one suggestion.

 

[MegaBlue05]

The best thing would be for the media to not cover it and the counter-protesters - both the antifa scumbags in masks and decent people who won't stand for white supremacy - to not show up.

Let those toofless, cousin-humping, Nazi dressing, rebel flag waving, selling-scrap metal-for-meth white trash morons yell at the sky over their sacred "National Civil War runners-up" participation trophies all they want to. Don't give their pathetic movement credence. Don't give it credibility.

The sorry ass alt-right wants a fight and the equally as sorry alt-left seems happy to oblige. If one side would stay away, the other will look like fools yelling to themselves.

I know in today's messed up political climate even f'n Nazis are drawn along partisan lines (Seriously, I've seen my conservative friends defending GD Nazis because they both voted for the same guy. Weird shit), but GD y'all, hating the KKK, white supremacists and Neo-Nazis shouldn't be a red/blue issue. It's a right/wrong issue.

That's my two cents on the matter. I won't be there and I hope no decent people show up. Let them turn Lexington into a trailer park for a few hours and then go back home to sister/aunt/wife (same person).

 

[ALL IN YOUR FACE]

Over/under on 25 broken windows at the big blue building?

I hope to see Mayor Grays punk ass down there keeping the peace.

 

[Bill Cosby]

 

[OldEvilleCat]

I think the statues should be moved and preserved, just not at the old courthouse. Why not move the John Hunt Morgan statue to the Hunt Morgan house on Mill Street, in Gratz Park, as just one suggestion.

I'm not from Lexington, nor do I know who John Hunt Morgan is, but your suggestion is never going to happen....because it makes a shitload of sense.

 

[WayneDougan]

Over/under on 25 broken windows at the big blue building?

I hope to see Mayor Grays punk ass down there keeping the peace.

Gray's dumbass should have said we will eventually move these statues, and put a timetable of a year or so. Even use the excuse that we are doing this when things calm down a little. Instead, he's adding fuel to the fire. So dumb.

 

[MdWIldcat55]

Imagine if the media and the Antifa crowd had all stayed home Saturday when the 200 or so jackasses pranced around shouting "Blood and Soil" or whatever.

It would have been an epic fail in which half the marchers realized how clownish they looked and gave up the 'cause' and the rest of us could either have mercifully ignored them or laughed at them.

Instead, a woman is dead, several people are hurt and we've all had to endure days of unrelenting coverage trying to convince us that America is at the same point where Nazi Germany was at Kristallnacht -- all because of the actions of a relative handful of kooks and agitators who don't represent the views of a tenth of one percent of Americans.

You can say there was no 'equivalency' between the Neo Nazis and the counter-protesters. But one group couldn't exist without the other.

 

[KyFaninNC]

I think they will be at the old Courthouse defending Confederate statues. I wonder if all the people who want to defend "history" understand that 3/4 of Kentucky soldiers fought for the Union? Where are all the Union statues?

I think the statues should be moved and preserved, just not at the old courthouse. Why not move the John Hunt Morgan statue to the Hunt Morgan house on Mill Street, in Gratz Park, as just one suggestion.

You want to rename the Russell office building as well? What about all the things named after Senator Byrd?

 

[Bill Derington]

I think they will be at the old Courthouse defending Confederate statues. I wonder if all the people who want to defend "history" understand that 3/4 of Kentucky soldiers fought for the Union? Where are all the Union statues?

I think the statues should be moved and preserved, just not at the old courthouse. Why not move the John Hunt Morgan statue to the Hunt Morgan house on Mill Street, in Gratz Park, as just one suggestion.

The number you posted isn't entirely accurate. Kentuckt didn't have an official confederate force, while many formed their own kentucky regiments. The citizens that lived close to the TN border simply went to TN and joined their armies.

 

[domino79]

Well, looks like there's only one thing left for us to do:

 

[UKWildcatT]

Imagine if the media and the Antifa crowd had all stayed home Saturday when the 200 or so jackasses pranced around shouting "Blood and Soil" or whatever.

It would have been an epic fail in which half the marchers realized how clownish they looked and gave up the 'cause' and the rest of us could either have mercifully ignored them or laughed at them.

Instead, a woman is dead, several people are hurt and we've all had to endure days of unrelenting coverage trying to convince us that America is at the same point where Nazi Germany was at Kristallnacht -- all because of the actions of a relative handful of kooks and agitators who don't represent the views of a tenth of one percent of Americans.

You can say there was no 'equivalency' between the Neo Nazis and the counter-protesters. But one group couldn't exist without the other.

I agree with your post, but one thing: please don't call them "counter protesters". They're a group of communist thugs that have been terrorizing communities and college campuses.

You MUST call evil by its name - its Nazis v Communists, two of the most evil groups in history

 

[Zakk Wyldcat]

Lol, this is what the people pulling the strings want man. They thrive on it - divide and conquer, trying to make everyday folks choose between nazis and communists

Don't fall for it! Ignore it! They thrive on attention

100% correct. The political parties and those with power and influence, aided by the dishonest/corrupt media, have succeeded in putting the populace/citizenry at war with one another while they(politicians, powerful,etc) run roughshod over individual rights and liberties. It's sickening. Wake up, folks, we are ALL pawns in the game.

 

[KyFaninNC]

I agree with your post, but one thing: please don't call them "counter protesters". They're a group of communist thugs that have been terrorizing communities and college campuses.

You MUST call evil by its name - its Nazis v Communists, two of the most evil groups in history

I disagree in that the left wingnuts are anarcists, not communists, paid for by Soros.

 

[KyFaninNC]

100% correct. The political parties and those with power and influence, aided by the dishonest/corrupt media, have succeeded in putting the populace/citizenry at war with one another while they(politicians, powerful,etc) run roughshod over individual rights and liberties. It's sickening. Wake up, folks, we are ALL pawns in the game.

Pin this at the top. Spot on. It's all about destroying Trump so the swamp can keep power.

 

[UKWildcatT]

I disagree in that the left wingnuts are anarcists, not communists, paid for by Soros.

There's no doubt this stuff is Soros, bought and paid for. But these clowns are taking pages out of Saul Alinsky's playbook.

Again,those that consider themselves center or left or right of it: DONT FALL FOR THESE TACTICS! Don't be foolish and let puppet masters control your thinking.

Call out groups on both sides that are pure evil.

 

[Tskware]

You want to rename the Russell office building as well? What about all the things named after Senator Byrd?

It can be a slippery slope, without question. What about Henry Clay (where I went to HS) and who was actually from Lexington? He is known as the "Great Compromiser". But as Senator Rand Paul said in a speech I attended just a couple of years ago, what he compromised about was the issue of slavery. So maybe, looking back 160 or so years, he should not have compromised after all. It certainly didn't stop the Civil War from occurring.

Where I draw the line is celebrating the Confederacy and their leaders, who were trying to destroy the United States of America, which I happen to love. I do think their leaders have a proper place of honor at places like Antietam, Gettysburg, Vicksburg, Fort Sumter and Shiloh (been to all five). But to put their statues (and in Lexington's case, ONLY their statues) up in front of the Courthouse, where the laws of the USA are made and enforced, just think that is wrong. Especially in Lexington where slaves were bought and sold at Cheapside.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

You better watch out,
You better not cry,
You better not pout,
I'm telling you why,
Neo Nazis are coming to town.

They are making a list,
Checking it twice,
They are gonna find out who is Nazi or nice.

 

[FtCampbellCat]

The actions of Mayor Jim Gray are bringing the alt-right to Lexington. Did you vote for this? I didn't. Now the neo-nazis and the KKK will be running around UK campus trying to recreate 1930's Germany. The lunatic alt-left will show up to make UK campus look like 1935 Berlin.

I hope the governor calls up the National Guard and tells them to keep the street vermin away by any means necessary. I hope the only way these clowns make it to UK is if they are brought to the emergency room at UK hospital

"Street Vermin"?

Betting you consider any decent person who protests Nazis (heaven forbid they be dark) as said "street vermin".

Funny that the Nazis aren't the villains to you.....actually more sad than funny.

But anybody wanting rights for anything but the right to be pathetic racist/sexist trash is evil to some people.

 

[UKWildcatT]

"Street Vermin"?

Betting you consider any decent person who protests Nazis (heaven forbid they be dark) as said "street vermin".

Funny that the Nazis aren't the villains to you.....actually more sad than funny.

But anybody wanting rights for anything but the right to be pathetic racist/sexist trash is evil to some people.

How bad can someone twist things. Good lord.

In no way did the OP defend nazis. What's scary is people like you that refuse to identify the "counter protesters" for what they are.

You scare me as much as someone who defends nazis.

 

[BigTyrone]

I agree with your post, but one thing: please don't call them "counter protesters". They're a group of communist thugs that have been terrorizing communities and college campuses.

You MUST call evil by its name - its Nazis v Communists, two of the most evil groups in history

Maybe there are secret groups of communists (I have no idea), but a lot of people just want to make their feelings about Nazis known and that's why they protest.

To automatically assume someone is an evil communist because they're willing to turn out and protest a gathering of Nazis is ridiculous, unfair and shows a serious bias.

 

[BigTyrone]

You better watch out,
You better not cry,
You better not pout,
I'm telling you why,
Neo Nazis are coming to town.

They are making a list,
Checking it twice,
They are gonna find out who is Nazi or nice.

Fail

 

[UKWildcatT]

Maybe there are secret groups of communists (I have no idea), but a lot of people just want to make their feelings about Nazis known and that's why they protest.

To automatically assume someone is an evil communist because they're willing to turn out and protest a gathering of Nazis is ridiculous, unfair and shows a serious bias.

Then you aren't paying attention to who and what ANTIFA is.

That's on you then.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

Maybe there are secret groups of communists (I have no idea), but a lot of people just want to make their feelings about Nazis known and that's why they protest.

To automatically assume someone is an evil communist because they're willing to turn out and protest a gathering of Nazis is ridiculous, unfair and shows a serious bias.

Fail

 

[Rebelfreedomeagle]

I don't think history supports the idea that you should just let Nazis do whatever they want and they'll just go away. That didn't go well last century. Nazi = needs skull cracked even though they're white and voted for your bromance.

I'm often surprised by the level of political stupidity shown here but the Nazi excuse-fest is the lowest level ever.

The statues should become property of the state historical society and taken to the history museum. They would make a nice display of how some people tried to alter history by glamorizing a defeated enemy of the United States of America.

 

[LairISBackBackAgain]

I support free speech, for every single person and group in this country. Even if I don't agree with them or hate them. Like Louisville fans.

That makes me a Nazi supporter.

I don't understand. I wasn't around in 1940's someone explain.

 

[Stonewall12]

The best thing would be for the media to not cover it and the counter-protesters - both the antifa scumbags in masks and decent people who won't stand for white supremacy - to not show up.

Let those toofless, cousin-humping, Nazi dressing, rebel flag waving, selling-scrap metal-for-meth white trash morons yell at the sky over their sacred "National Civil War runners-up" participation trophies all they want to. Don't give their pathetic movement credence. Don't give it credibility.

The sorry ass alt-right wants a fight and the equally as sorry alt-left seems happy to oblige. If one side would stay away, the other will look like fools yelling to themselves.

I know in today's messed up political climate even f'n Nazis are drawn along partisan lines (Seriously, I've seen my conservative friends defending GD Nazis because they both voted for the same guy. Weird shit), but GD y'all, hating the KKK, white supremacists and Neo-Nazis shouldn't be a red/blue issue. It's a right/wrong issue.

That's my two cents on the matter. I won't be there and I hope no decent people show up. Let them turn Lexington into a trailer park for a few hours and then go back home to sister/aunt/wife (same person).

Nonsense

 

[rudd1]

-anarchists believe in no govt. Antifa is about state control of speech, capital and thought...communism. they are not doing this in secret, it's obvious to anyone paying attention.

-given the atrocities of the far left in the 20th century it's astounding that seemingly rational folks don't see that movement for what it is.

-national socialists are obviously terrible...but the far left is far more dangerous.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

I don't think history supports the idea that you should just let Nazis do whatever they want and they'll just go away. That didn't go well last century. Nazi = needs skull cracked even though they're white and voted for your bromance.

I'm often surprised by the level of political stupidity shown here but the Nazi excuse-fest is the lowest level ever.

The statues should become property of the state historical society and taken to the history museum. They would make a nice display of how some people tried to alter history by glamorizing a defeated enemy of the United States of America.

Neo Nazis are morons.

They hate and show stupidity.

The Nazis were dangerous. Neo Nazis are just stupid.

 

[LairISBackBackAgain]

And screw our founding fathers. Bunch of stupid people.

 

[Bill Derington]

Maybe there are secret groups of communists (I have no idea), but a lot of people just want to make their feelings about Nazis known and that's why they protest.

To automatically assume someone is an evil communist because they're willing to turn out and protest a gathering of Nazis is ridiculous, unfair and shows a serious bias.

No one is saying counterprotesting is bad, however if you go there with the intention to physically stop a legal protest, then yes, you too are bad.
Antifa has been physically assaulting people they don't want heard. It wasn't just Saturday, it is a growing epidemic, it happened last week in Portland.

 

[MdWIldcat55]

I don't think history supports the idea that you should just let Nazis do whatever they want and they'll just go away. That didn't go well last century. Nazi = needs skull cracked even though they're white and voted for your bromance.

I'm often surprised by the level of political stupidity shown here but the Nazi excuse-fest is the lowest level ever.

The statues should become property of the state historical society and taken to the history museum. They would make a nice display of how some people tried to alter history by glamorizing a defeated enemy of the United States of America.

Just curious. And I'm not trying to provoke you or anyone else. What percentage of Americans would you say support Nazis who want to persecute or take away rights from Jews and blacks? One percent? (That would be 3.4 million Americans) One-tenth of one percent? (That would be 340,000 Americans.) I ask, because you say ignoring Nazis won't work, and you implicitly compare contemporary America with Nazi Germany where, from the fairly early days of National Socialism, a relatively high percentage of people supported the goals espoused by the Nazis.

My view is that the number of people who would support the views espoused by the marchers in Charlottesville is far fewer than a tenth of one percent. We probably saw the most robust assemblage of the lunatics possible to gather in one place Saturday, and it was a few hundred people. And in a country this size, you are going to have a fraction of a percent espouse all sorts of crazy views.

Many more would push back against taking down every Confederate statue, but that is mixing up two separate groups: One are the Nazis you reference. The other are people fed up with being dictated to by what they see as politically correct liberals and see taking down the statues as a symbol of attacking their heritage. But those people have no interest in racist causes or Anti-Semitic causes. I personally don't care if the statues are taken down, but I know people who do care -- and they are certainly NOT Nazis.

The left is trying to conflate the two groups as part of an anti-Trump campaign. I get that. But its like trying to call every supporter of Bernie Sanders, even those who like him basically because of his trade policies, a Communist.

 

[JumperJack]

-anarchists believe in no govt. Antifa is about state control of speech, capital and thought...communism. they are not doing this in secret, it's obvious to anyone paying attention.

-given the atrocities of the far left in the 20th century it's astounding that seemingly rational folks don't see that movement for what it is.

-national socialists are obviously terrible...but the far left is far more dangerous.

Hard for people to understand communism when the media sugarcoats it and the government becomes more socialist by the year.

 

[MegaBlue05]

Nonsense

Astute analysis.

Care to elaborate?

 

[Rebelfreedomeagle]

What percentage of Americans would you say support Nazis who want to persecute or take away rights from Jews and blacks? One percent?

I'm thinking it's higher than that. As immoral as their rhetoric is, I think it appeals to a very significant portion of the population and could be viewed as a minor concession to voting for their own interests.

The other are people fed up with being dictated to by what they see as politically correct liberals and see taking down the statues as a symbol of attacking their heritage.

I know people who have this same view point and think they have a very skewed and manipulated view of history. I keep hearing about heritage but it is simply a heritage based on racism and hate. There's nothing wrong with southern culture, but the confederacy was literally what I called it above - a defeated enemy of the United States.

 

[MegaBlue05]

Maybe there are secret groups of communists (I have no idea), but a lot of people just want to make their feelings about Nazis known and that's why they protest.

To automatically assume someone is an evil communist because they're willing to turn out and protest a gathering of Nazis is ridiculous, unfair and shows a serious bias.

That's what bothers me. The people who are so in the tank for right-wing politics think everyone who would be willing to tell white supremacists to GTFO of their town = leftists/antifa. I have two uncles who are both Vietnam vets and both are as GOP as GOP can be who are going to Lexington ... to stand against white supremacy. Are my uncles now leftists because they think that stuff is bad?

I don't like antifa. I think they're bad. Using violence to make a point always is wrong no matter what. I won't lie, I though them messing with that loser Milo and his band of idiots wa

I don't think anyone who tells the alt-right pussies to suck a fat d is antifa. They want a whites only country, and frankly, f that. The mix of cultures is what makes the USA unique and interesting. It would suck if we all looked the same, talked the same and liked the same shit.

I see a lot of people seemingly defending the white supremacists because some "leftists" were there. When I see that, I think a) overly-partisan losers or b) white supremacists.

Choice B is a hard label to shake.

 

[MoneyMuntz]

I am disturbed by the number of posts in this thread that deflect blame/criticism of nazis in order to make a political point about the other side. While maybe not explicitly stated, this is clearly sympathizing with that scum. You don't need to be a thug or communist to counter protest this garbage, you just need to be a good person, like the woman who died in Charlottesville.

 

[tammefan]

Rupp was racist so shouldnt we tear down Rupp and build a new arena?

 

[the nail at the foul line]

How have Mega and Money's life been affected by Neo Nazis?

Details.