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KSR/Matt Jones held accountable by Rivals

Ummm... you might want to look up copyright laws. For example, you don't have to be profiting for it to be illegal. The copying and reposting in itself is a violation.

But, since you brought up the point. Where is there indisputable evidence KSR or Matt Jones profited off the information? That's pure speculation by jealous, overzealous message board posters breaking copyright laws from what I've seen so far!!
You haven’t been here very long have you? There was a time when you couldn’t even mention Matt Jones or KSR here because of him taking info and not giving proper credit.

I think all of this is hilarious and makes both parties involved look bad.

Matt because he always talks down on this message board when he probably checks it every day just like all of us. Hell he actually subscribes for the premium content.

Justin for putting it on twitter although if I were running the site i May feel different
 
Quit with this nonsense.

No one is acting like he “murdered” someone. That’s just stupid to say.

This just goes to Jones character. No one has said otherwise.

Matt comes off as an arrogant, and know it all prick to some. To me, his show is boring because all of his little minions kiss his ass and agree with everything he says. He also crams his socialist political views down people’s throats and trashes the current President.

He calls people out all the time, so it should be just fine when people call him out. What’s good for the Goose is good for the gander.

So sorry that he hurts your feelings by trashing this incompetent douchebag we currently have running the country. I'm sure you never said any nasty things about Obama. Does that make you a "snowflake"?

And no, Jones doesn't cram his political views down peoples throats. Stating your opinion on something isn't shoving your opinion down someone's throat. He freely acknowledges that most listeners likely disagree with him on the occasions that they are talking about politics. Again, if you hate the guy so much, why do you listen to the show? If you need a safe space turn KSR off if it offends you so much and watch Fox News.
 
Jon Rothstein article posted on KSR at 9:00p

Jon Rothstein article posted on RR at 7:54p

Both on the same day.

John Rothstein tweet, not article, was posted 2 hours before it was on RR.

Stories about someone else's tweets aren't the type of info anyone is talking about.

For years Jones inside info was nothing more than message board aggregate sprinkled in with tidbits of stuff he actually heard. He was notorious for not giving the actual source any credit; instead just acting as if it were his own.

Odd thing is - I don't think anyone cared. If he'd given the hat tip, he'd still grown to just as popular. People cared about the info, not where it came from. And noone else was aggregating. So it still would've worked the same
 
Jesus, some embarrassing takes in this thread.

You have a guy who is one of the major guys who follows your team, and who actually takes the time to interact with the public and share inside information when he can, and some people here are going to get their panties twisted because of a major source of info having a log in account?

Crazytime.
 
I feel so entirely out of the loop. I have never listened to a single moment of Matt Jones ( I dont have a twitter and dont listen to podcast or anything but music on my sirius xm ) .. I have no idea who Rowland is , I. dont even know what HOB is .... so. MERRY CHRISTMAS and Go Big Blue . .. I will say I read like 3-4 pages and some claim that the folks on the political thread are the bashing Jones here .. I dont see that connection . And I post on the political page sometimes . Rabid right wing nut , guilty as charged .
 
I read the KSR blog regularly. Do not listen to Matt or anyone associated with Matt on the radio or any other activities he does.I assume he still posts as Magliorre52 or whatever as that was his screen name back when he was trying to get established.

Personally I don't care that he shares an HOB account. In today's world where everyone is desperate for premium account media dollars, I wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. Its not like the HOB is losing revenue - they aren't going to buy an account for every person on that staff when their reason to use it is to generate content ideas and talking points.

The thing that is really interesting to me however is that we'll be posting a narrative about some facet of the program using a phrase or wording that is most likely specific to this board, and that same wording shows up in a KSR blog a few days later.

Whatever opinion he has of the message boards here, which at one time he was an active contributor, his team still relies on heavily to develop their content. They still see this place as the pulse of BBN.
Yes it’s patently obvious that KSR’s “writers” when they can’t come up with new or original content to feed the site come to this message board and take threads/discussions and copy them onto their site almost always without citing the proper source or poster and hiding under the umbrella of “it’s general UK news everybody is talking about it’s fair game.”....if you are PAID to write for something even just a sports blog then create your own content and stop being intellectually dishonest and stealing other people’s thoughts.
 
Jesus, some embarrassing takes in this thread.

You have a guy who is one of the major guys who follows your team, and who actually takes the time to interact with the public and share inside information when he can, and some people here are going to get their panties twisted because of a major source of info having a log in account?

Crazytime.

Matt is one of the “major guys” taking “the time to interact with the public?”

Wow. That is a starry-eyed perspective that I did not think I would read. His interaction with us public-likes is how he makes a living.

I respect how Matt has turned fandom into a job. He has been either first or better at capitalizing on other fans’ desires and money. On that path, he has been a bit unscrupulous and, ironically, has violated the copyrights of others. Some of that is chalked up to youthful foolishness, some to lack of character. At one time, it was not uncommon to see him engaged in very childlike battles on social media.

I think Matt has matured in his social appearance over the years, which makes sense. He was a young brash attorney when he started to be recognized. My take is that he was not a good attorney. But, my take is that most attorneys would love to be doing what Matt does for a living. So, his focus elsewhere was smart.

I don’t know what a “major guy” is, but interacting with UK fans is how Matt makes his money. Many want premium content for free, so they probably like that Matt is not completely ethical in his business approach.
 
I know a guy with an HOB membership and he has called me before relaying the info on there. Should I give Rowland his info so he can banish him to hell?

This can’t be hard to figure out, right...but you know there’s a difference between a regular poster and Matt Jones/KSR, Correct?
 
Quit with this nonsense.

No one is acting like he “murdered” someone. That’s just stupid to say.

This just goes to Jones character. No one has said otherwise.

Matt comes off as an arrogant, and know it all prick to some. To me, his show is boring because all of his little minions kiss his ass and agree with everything he says. He also crams his socialist political views down people’s throats and trashes the current President.

He calls people out all the time, so it should be just fine when people call him out. What’s good for the Goose is good for the gander.
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Again, since I have asked numerous times and no one who says this responds or will post proof.

Please share proof, an example, anything that shows where MJ/KSR stole info from here and passed it off as their own???

Don’t have screen shots but years ago when KSR first came to be and Jeff Drummond worked on this site (think it was CP back then or maybe WildCatChat?? - yep, I’ve been around forever; was CrumsBaldSpot until I went LordEgg and forgot my password), Jeff would let Matt link his fledgly site to create traffic. Jones went to Duke and did have an occasional inside scoop under his Magloire52 name and was generally liked on the board. However, premium info started to appear on his site once he gained a following and he was called out on it. By the time he was banned from linking his site - his mission had already been accomplished.

His quote was “information cannot be copywrited” and used it as an excuse for stealing the info and betraying Jeff’s trust. That shows you what kind of calculated sociopath you are dealing with.
 
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It appears as if this board has broken into two camps:

1) people that value honesty and fair play.
2) and people that think that dishonesty and theft are ok as long as "everyone else" is doing it.

We live in a world of situational ethics, where terrible behavior is acceptable, as long as it benefits the right people. I wonder if Jones' defenders would be as eager to take his side if he stole information from them?
 
This is comical. I'm not really a Matt Jones fan every since the time he stole my Harrison Barnes photos and didnt credit me. (on more than one occasion I might add) When I asked them to credit me they cussed me out and deleted my comments lol.

I was honestly flattered that they used my pics, I just wanted credit for them. Haven't visited his site or listened since.
 
Good lord. I don’t care either way for Matt and I do find Justin’s tweet quite amusing. But I guarantee that some of the people verbally castrating him in this thread are doing the same thing. If not here than on Hulu or whatever.
 
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I don't have a like or dislike for Matt Jones. I do understand where JR is coming from on this. While this seems to be trivial to a lot of people and I get that as well. KSR and Rivals are in direct competition with one another and fighting for market share and their business life. So it is a big deal to Rivals that he had a burner account and then used the info to gain more market share. I'm sure there are some really bad feelings between Matt and Justin. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not this is not a good look on Jones and KSR.

I'm sure Matt has contacts and gets info on his own. Taking Info from HOB which is a premium site and using it as your own info to improve your business will not sit well with Rivals nor should it. For the ones saying it's no big deal. If it was hurting your bottom line you would probably have a different opinion. We're not talking about using info gathered from a free site. It's from a paid site that's the problem.
 
Some people on here are acting like Matt is successful because he stole information and content.

Matt is successful because he is entertaining, a good story teller and understands marketing. It has little to do with his information.

These are the same people that hate his show and complain about how he needs to stick to UK sports content. But that is not the kind of show that will draw a huge audience, most people find that kind of radio very boring.


Also, I am someone who can not comprehend why anyone would spend a dime for "premium information". If it is something relevant, it will not be kept private for long.
 
I don't have a like or dislike for Matt Jones. I do understand where JR is coming from on this. While this seems to be trivial to a lot of people and I get that as well. KSR and Rivals are in direct competition with one another and fighting for market share and their business life. So it is a big deal to Rivals that he had a burner account and then used the info to gain more market share. I'm sure there are some really bad feelings between Matt and Justin. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not this is not a good look on Jones and KSR.

I'm sure Matt has contacts and gets info on his own. Taking Info from HOB which is a premium site and using it as your own info to improve your business will not sit well with Rivals nor should it. For the ones saying it's no big deal. If it was hurting your bottom line you would probably have a different opinion. We're not talking about using info gathered from a free site. It's from a paid site that's the problem.

Exactly its the stealing of others work/content and posting as your own that is wrong in my eyes. When the people you take from are your competition its extra shady in my opinion.
 
As we see in this thread, KSR has been promoted on these message boards for years. It is part of their marketing, in addition to being a source for their information. How you do business matters to some people. I suspect it matters to Mitch Barnhart, but I know some here would debate that. After Matt maximizes the pub from this (maybe CBS will run a story about the Kentucky feud?), he should own it and apologize. But, then, I did not build his “empire.” He probably knows best.
 
Some people on here are acting like Matt is successful because he stole information and content.

Matt is successful because he is entertaining, a good story teller and understands marketing. It has little to do with his information.

These are the same people that hate his show and complain about how he needs to stick to UK sports content. But that is not the kind of show that will draw a huge audience, most people find that kind of radio very boring.


Also, I am someone who can not comprehend why anyone would spend a dime for "premium information". If it is something relevant, it will not be kept private for long.

I partially agree. Matt has an awesome ability to grab your attention. He has great energy and can be funny. Combine that with others pictures and premium content and you just might have a million dollar business. While the folks at rivals and the independent photographers in the business starve.
 
I will just say this....Matt Jones has been great for the UK Fan base. He has given us an outlet to news and inside program access that was not available 10-15 years ago.


That being said this has been known for years he “borrows” info from other sites and manipulates it as his own.

Believe what you want.....but the truth is the truth.

And JF Cats can GTFO. A known Duke fan undercover as a UK fan is about as low as it can get.
 
7 pages? Can't believe that many people feel that strongly on either side about this. MJ certainly polarizes Cat fans for some reason.
 
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