why make the kneeling comment about you? I was saying that he'd kneel with the players as a faux sign of unity but doesn't think twice about leaking to Dykes he is gonna chase off a few players for next season
Jimmy D said expect 7-8 new players
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Dykes did not say Cal was going to chase off players. He said that Cal wanted players with more dog(?) in them and that he, Dykes , doesnt see that in this team. As far as the kneeling , you brought it up. I was just stating how totally unimportant it is to me. You seem to use it as another reason to replace Cal. Thats about it.
Borderline racist projection oozing from your posts. Why compare these young men to animals for your enjoyment.
They’re people bruh!
If you are referring to the Dog comment, it was from Dykes. His word for word comments made during the Mississippi game have been on several sites. I understood what he meant. Sorry you cant grasp his meaning and find something racist in it. If it is not the Dykes quote , the you will have to point it out . You may need to take a break.
Allen?? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. This Jmeeks hasn’t watched a game all year.
your words....
"Cal also may be sending an unspoken message to some that says I prefer that you leave, and I dont mean to the draft. "
you really can't use that comparison
Jodie Meeks was ranked #39............he was pretty good
i can give you many more examples of players listed between 25 and 40
last year was a very weak PG class
in normal years Askew should have bee ranked in the 80's
i 100% agree we need an elite PG or at least one that can break down his man
Coach K is willing to use Nike to land players like Cade, Zion, and Hardy. Cal is not. It's why he's fallen off the rollercoaster since 2015. He can't win without elite players.
Jodie Meeks wasn't a pg.
Also, Jodie Meeks wasn't very good his freshman year, he was injured most of his sophomore year and went off in his junior year. The guy I was responding to, thinks Hickman is going to take over at pg next year and fix this programs problems… ..in his freshman year.
You say you can name more players that were ranked between 25 and 40, well, go for it. SGA is one. Tyler Herro wasn't a pg and he wasn't leading the team.
Here's the thing, I most certainly CAN make that comparison, because 9 times out of 10, a player ranked from 25-40, is a 3 or 4 year kid that doesn't start to do anything until their junior year.
Here at UK, under Calipari, you have to be great from the jump, or you don't play.
If Hickman is our pg, we're in deep shit.
Post that list though.
Here are the point guards listed in the last two classes between 25-40:
Jeremy Roach (duke)
Khristian Lander (IU)
Devin Askew
Andre Curbelo (ILL)
Tre Mann (Fla)
Boogie Ellis (Memphis)
Jalen Lecque (NC state)
Are any of those guys good enough, in year 1, to run the show at UK under Cal? Uh uh.
Askew was just incredibly overrated, you also have to factor in when he reclassified they really had no idea where to rate him. The fact that he was the top PG in this upcoming class (at least in somebody’s opinion) is simply mind blowing. That does really concern me in regard to how good Hickman might be. It appears to me Askew was prob bigger and stronger than most PG’s at a young age ala Andrew Harrison thus the high ranking.
In the right setting, Askew can be serviceable. There are a lot of teams out there, like Villanova, that don't have a need for a guy that can beat his man off the dribble. They run a different type of offense. Collin Gillespie is what Askew will be in 2 years.
At UK, everything is fast tracked, you have to be elite, especially at the pg spot, or every flaw is going to be highlighted.
Guys like Wall, Fox, Ulis and Knight were good enough to beat coaches and defenses that had been scouting and preparing for them all season long. It only takes 1 physical defender to neutralize Askew. He defends himself. He dribbles too much, has no forethought, waits for the trap to spring on him, can't go by anyone and he can't shoot. Hickman looks to be no different.
I want both players here, because they are 4 year kids, well, they should be. But my concern is, will they ever be good enough to play pg for Cal? I don’t think so. I don’t think either of them could beat Dominique Hawkins for that spot really. They’re all at the same level. They’re going to be selling insurance after college.
Cal can't win without elite talent at the 1 and it's proven he needs at least one more elite player in the front court. Oscar isn’t it, hopefully Collins is.
This season should have taught all UK fans a lot of things, but the fact we still have fans that think Hickman is going to come in here and do what Wall, Fox, Ulis and Knight did, is just not smart.
whats is so frustrating is we all know what Cal is capable of doing as a coach.
This year , however, showed that at least with the current setup at UK, Calipari is a very limited coach in dealing with player evaluation and adversity.
It was a horrible coaching job and he wasn't prepared for it. You can blame the pandemic for about the first month. After that, its just a worthless excuse. You're not a sub .500 team because you couldn't go bowling with the guys on Friday night.
Because he can't get a handle on the OAD situation, along with players apparently hating being here to the point they transfer - he won't be prepared for next year either.
And no one can speak with any certainty beyond that.
A traditional coach and program, you could say , well we're bad this year but give our guys 2 more years and they'll kill it
Not at UK. You can't look past the spring semester.
This year , however, showed that at least with the current setup at UK, Calipari is a very limited coach in dealing with player evaluation and adversity.
It was a horrible coaching job and he wasn't prepared for it. You can blame the pandemic for about the first month. After that, its just a worthless excuse. You're not a sub .500 team because you couldn't go bowling with the guys on Friday night.
Because he can't get a handle on the OAD situation, along with players apparently hating being here to the point they transfer - he won't be prepared for next year either.
And no one can speak with any certainty beyond that.
A traditional coach and program, you could say , well we're bad this year but give our guys 2 more years and they'll kill it
Not at UK. You can't look past the spring semester.
Deuce McBride from WVU was ranked as a 3* outside the top 150 by Rivals? He is a stud and was very good as a freshman. Rankings aren't fool proof
Facts: Water is wet, Everyone dies, There are two genders
Opinions: Hickman is not elite and is same as Askew, Collins in unpolished, Oscar will be in foul trouble every game
Not only are these opinions but they are also predictions of what might happen in 9-10 months from now. You have no idea if Hickman is elite or not or of these other 'facts' you speak about. Your 'opinions' may turn out to be correct but they also may not. Time will tell.
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You’re a short sighted fool. Give an argument for why Boston deserves to play 32 minutes a game.
Dykes said Cal got caught without a PG with elite skills that can break down defenses with his driving ability.
So a question for you recruiting gurus, who is available out there that fits that role?
What HS Senior available can be that Wall/Fox type PG?
I can’t really see a transfer in that role. If you are an elite PG at the college level you are probably thinking NBA next season not changing schools.
So a question for you recruiting gurus, who is available out there that fits that role?
What HS Senior available can be that Wall/Fox type PG?
I can’t really see a transfer in that role. If you are an elite PG at the college level you are probably thinking NBA next season not changing schools.
Good luck with your thoughts, hopes and dreams. I've seen enough the last 12 years to know better.
This. We never have ANY chemistry. That’s especially true on the offensive end. Our offense looks like a clown show every year! Every single year. Sometimes we have an elite PG that makes it appear somewhat better. Usually via the pick and roll.
I'm a UK fan with a brain, you're a UK fan that is oblivious.
Because Boston is a better player with tons more potential. He's bigger and longer for defense. He's a better defender. He's better at everything than Allen except the set shot and when he finds his footing, he'll be better at that too. If you can't see that poor Allen struggles to even have a clue of what's going on out there, well, I don't know what to say.
2010 Cal needs to come thru a time machine and bitch smack 2021 Cal and show him how to put together that boss roster real quick.
Meeks had an all around game even his first two years and he developed that lethal 3 point shot by his Junior year.
What has he done to prove that potential. Name me one aspect of the game he is good at right now. Just one thing you can count on him to contribute every night on the court. And if you say defense again I’ll know you’re full of it.
even if Boston somehow magically this great, unseen potential (despite sucking at every aspect of the game while here) why would you play him over Allen on an 8-15 team? Are you trolling me? The season is doomed. Develop next years roster now. Get Allen, Toppin, and Ware playing 30 minutes a game. Those are the only 3 players we really have a shot at getting back. Mintz, Sarr, BJ, Clarke, Jackson, Brooks all gone. Despite never really contributing to UK in a meaningful way...
if you still think BJ has potential you’re the one who isn’t watching games and is just reading the articles. Stay in your lane and go cheer on the NBA. The Cat fans are talking here.
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Meeks was not a good player his first two years here. Look up his stats and be amazed. But he was allowed to play through mistakes and develop far more than Allen which contributed to his amazing junior year
I sure wish Jackson would come back one more year, he still has a lot to learn, he got called today on two moving screens again. Why do him and Sarr keep doing that, do they know what the rule is. It didn't matter today but that's been going on all year.
I'm far from oblivious. If you were truly a UK fan, your hopes and dreams would also be for UK to be good. I've been a UK fan since 1971. I was wiping my hands on my socks as a 6 year old like Kyle Macy and most kids in Kentucky did before free throws. Now you may be older and can remember the championship teams from the 40's and 50's for all I Know. If you are, then you are old enough to understand that every year is not going to be great or even good. This year sucks. I understand that. I don't like the way things have been with system either. I still say time will tell if next year will be good or not. We have 8 championships and 17 final fours in 118 years of basketball. Some years just aren't good and I realize this has been one of the worst. UK's numbers are still better than everyone else. I'm not your enemy if you are a UK fan. I'm just trying to say that we don't yet know how next season will be and I hope you are wrong with your prediction.
You missed the point of my post completely. They don't belong in the same discussion. All I hear for Allen on this board are excuses and blaming the coach. Any fair minded objective person will quickly realize how ridiculous that is.
I hope Allen stays and proves me wrong but I don't see a whole lot there. He isn't really contributing and I can't blame the coach for that.
i remember all his years well but you could see his talent even as a freshman.
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i missed the point of your post? You’re the one who put in words in my mouth. Might want to take a look in the mirror there pal.
In retrospect, this is my biggest takeaway from last season unfortunately... Jimmy got this straight from Cal, clearly.
You’re an idiot if you don’t think Cal learned from this season. What a stupid post.
Jodie Meeks was actually named to the freshman All-American team by at least one publication his freshman year. So, not true that he was “not a good player”.
100%. Meeks was good enough that he had me excited about the future
