I don’t know him personally either. I just can’t stand his holier than thou attitude and like he’s the end all be all of UK basketball related content. Usually, he’s way off. 🤣 EDIT: I really like Graf.
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AKA word salad! Goodness, Kamala is a shit show.
Look when you share info, you'll get some things wrong. But think the delivery is the key and admitting you were wrong is also very important. It's okay. Nobody is going to blame you for what happens in the crazy world of recruiting if you are straight up. But when you have this "I know more than you" approach and then are wrong...people come for the head and eventually credibility has to be discussed.
I still raise an eyebrow with the Skyy Clark thing. Guy went to watch him play in a pickup game with Brandon Miller and made an assessment of Miller from that lone appearance and talked up Clark. Friend--who has done this for years---told me Brandon Miller will be a top 5 player in '22 class and Lottery Pick when he was a Soph and you all know what he said about Skyy Clark. I mean we all have misses--I thought Cliff Alexander would've been great at Kentucky and had a longer NBA career but he flopped and was a bust. Thought Kentucky got a great class for a horrible HS class of talent in '19 when really only Maxey panned out and that class sucked beyond suckage. So missing happens. But I don't have a show or job that makes me proclaim to be all knowing about UK basketball. But sometimes you just have to watch with your eyes and not your ears. That's where Graf has improved a great deal and he's worked his ass off. Jack has a ways to go and the delivery being so smug isn't a great look. Fans will remember and how you treat them when you are right, helps when you are wrong. He's young and hope he figures it out.
I'm hanging on to hope Reeves wants to return but is just waiting for Cal to offer more.
WTF? Top 5 players in the country? Noooo, they are top 6 or 7 in their recruiting class, which is all high school kids.
Scary thing is Miranda's talent is insane. Skill wise, he's superior to any big UK has. But he's a whole lot of crazy.......but then again John Welch did work with Jerry Tarkanian at Fresno State. If you can deal with Avodre Jones and his Samurai Sword incident.....Miranda would be light work. But he's got NBA Lottery talent.....just flip a coin if you get to see it. He originally played for former Memphis player of Cal's Antonio Anderson and was a heavy UK lean. They held off.....held off...and when something is obvious in recruiting in terms of ties, etc... there's always a reason it doesn't happen. But pure talent wise? Guy is a wonderfully skilled 7'0 who has a great tool kit. Shoots the 3 ball better than most UK forwards.
Rule of thumb with "issues" players is usually if the core of team is strong, you can take one in. They'll fall in line. Got a few too many-they bring the 50/50 guys over to the negative side and it falls apart.
David Jones is an interesting player. Fits what they are saying they want to do basketball wise with the offense, but is more 6'4/6'5 wing who has game but not a great shooter. Hated how he played for Mike Anderson but I don't think much of Anderson as a coach.
Last I heard they are still talking and negotiating--if you want to call it that. Just know the picture is painted a little differently from what I've been told. For instance, what his camp/Reeves said prior to entering the process is a lot different. Cal's as straight with guys as any Coach in CBB about NBA prospects too. He's not saying "Go-you'll be a Lottery pick" to some guy like Reeves. He's saying he'll help get all the info, support him, call him if they have questions/want info but good lord some of the "drama" to this is laughable.
Edwards and Bradshaw are top 5 recruits according to most analysts. Wagner is top 6.
I would be going after cam spencer like crazy he is the closest thing left to reeves
It was strange when Maggard said they weren't really interested.Seven players you had better be trying hard to get some guys.
I didn’t get to listen to pilgrims update I was at the LouCity game was he just repeating a bunch of what is already out there
Literally just quoted what he said. Didn't say if I agreed with him or not. So **** off.
Anyone could have watched mixtapes and seen this. Unless Edwards learns to dribble on both sides and develops a quicker release, a lot of people are going to be disappointed.
Edwards is the one I have the most hope for lol, I fell he will be able to get his and with Wagner I atleast know he ain’t gonna back down from anybody. With bradshaw & dillingham I have no idea what’s going to happen
Don't support this.
MKG could barely handle the ball with his left hand, Terrence Jones was horrible with his right, James Young had the same release as Edwards, Karl Towns couldn't go over his right shoulder in the post, etc. etc.
Anyone who says they know what they're talking about because they "watched mixtapes" is a fool.
You can still see players doing things right and wrong in mixtapes. I don't buy into highlights on these things, but the little things are going to stick out. The same thing I saw in tidbits of Edwards are the same criticisms analysts have voiced.
I thought we would at least make it to December before we started saying the players were overrated, not very good and our offense sucks, because we don't have anyone that can create their own shot.
Remember guys, it's not Cal's fault, it's the players, they're just not good enough.
Remember guys, it's not Cal's fault, it's the players, they're just not good enough.
It’s what Cal fans have to do to defend him. It's so bad that they have to make false statements, then act like they made a minor mistake in their posts.
It's May 25 and UK still has just 7 players, none w/ any significant D1 college experience.
That's terrifying entering what is supposed to be a make or break year for the coach and program. The biggest question is: does Cal even see it?
That's terrifying entering what is supposed to be a make or break year for the coach and program. The biggest question is: does Cal even see it?
Fully convinced none of them know anything right now. Pretty sure Cal shut the news cycle down. They all seem to be grasping at straws.
Yours is a kind of post I really enjoy reading. Good honest exchange of information/ ideas about one of our incoming recruits. You made an observation after watching a recruit. It seemed completely unbiased with no agenda rant (e.g., “Edwards sucks… another Cal miss,” etc.). Edwards just finished high school. He’s not going to come into college a finished product or even leave after his first year a finished product.
You just made an observation as to what some of the things are that you think he needs to (and likely will) improve. You didn’t say Edwards wasn’t a great high school recruit, or that you weren’t glad UK got him, or even that he won’t be a very good player (hopefully sooner rather than later). You just pointed out that he has some things that he needs to work on, and that fans should anticipate that.
Keep watching the mixtapes, game replays, etc. and posting what you see. It’s the type of stuff that makes up the better part of this message board.
never read anything regarding Miranda that said he was a head case or a very good talent. Just read that he was an average talent that didn't play hard. So your words are good to read, except that another 7' outside shooter is not what is needed. If UK takes this guy, then why would they have not shown any interest in the Ware kid from Oregon, who is supposedly a much better talent. This is the kind of thing that I just don't understand. If you are going after similar players, why not go after the best. The same with Jones. Why go after him and not the 2 guys that wound up @ UT? Again, they were as good or better talent wise. Most, if not all UK fans knew that another shooter and another big man was needed. Yet, ccc showed veryl ittle interest in anyone except Dickinson and Johnson. The moves made by this coach, are questionable, if not laughable, but now I guess he is in panic mode and has to add bodies just to be able to scrimmage in practice.
" I don't like what they're saying so they must be lying"
LOL! Whaaaaaaat?!?! Jack ain't in the gym with these guys every day? What the hell is he talking about? He's just begging for some ounce of credibility.
I've said it before and I'll say it again - there's ONLY 2 reasons Jack claims TJ Beisner and Andrew Ortelli leaving the program are big deals: First, because he knows criticism on Cal gets clicks. Second, because one or both of those 2 are his inside sources, so now he's got squat.
Unless John Wall or Julius Randle is the freshman, I have NO IDEA why Calipari wouldn't lead Reeves to believe he'll be a starter. Why wouldn't you give the benefit of the doubt, in the preseason, to the returning/proven/exerpeinced player? Why should Reeves EVER think he isn't going to be a starter?
I have not listened to that podcast - or cared what they had to say - since the whole "Banchero to UK is a done deal" fiasco ....
Agree with you 100% .... sadly, that's not how Cal sees it. He is so obsessed and distracted by the shiny new object every season: his 5-star freshmen! If I was a returning player, I'd probably despise Cal for it, honestly. I suspect many do ... including a guy like Oscar, let alone Reeves.
It would be a blessing in disguise. Mitch would have no choice but to rip the bandaid off and settle a buyout with Cal if we even miss the tournament next year.
Don't get me wrong, in part that's exactly how you get the stud freshmen - telling them they get to play right away. I actually believe Cal, for the most part, when he publicly proclaims that he makes no promises about playing time and shots. BUT, seems like he makes promises about roles, which I think is important to note.
But yeah, Reeves should be under the impression he's a starter. Just like I think Livingston should be, although obviously his situation is different.
The list of Pilgrim "done deals" that didn't happen is a mile long. He always claims the same "something happened last minute" nonsense.
Banchero
Huntley-Hatfield
Matt Haarms
Does Cal even see it????
He//fire, Cal is orchestrating this whole thing.
I can't for the life of me understand why so many are struggling trying to figure out why everyone chose to leave AFTER they met with Cal at the end of the season.
Cal has and continues to send a strong message, not only to his current players on the roster, but also, any player in the portal considering UK, that the incoming freshmen are his top priority for playing time AND NIL money.
As Hunter D said, coming to UK would be a huge risk.
Cal is very happy right now. Does he get paid on the 1st. and the 15th. of the month or all of his $8.5M at one time???
Im assuming Jones would play sticky D:
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