Is it Time for a New Voice? (Poll)
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Personally I think Stoops flirting with Texas A&M is grounds enough...
I just think it's silly to continue watching the same Stoops story play out every single year.
It's a lot of underwhelming.
I voted yes, but I still have an overall positive feeling towards Stoops. I’d give him a B- for his overall body of work at UK. The problem going forward is that he’s too stubborn to stop having a defensive first philosophy and that won’t work in todays CFB.
Three years past due.
Ray Charles could see this coming.
Have you ever tried to quit your job and then come back to that job???
Yeah. That never works out.
Ray Charles could see this coming.
Have you ever tried to quit your job and then come back to that job???
Yeah. That never works out.
If MB hires the next FB coach, Brad White will be your HC.
More of the same, defensive minded, ultra conservative, risk averse, non attacking offense and defense.
A lot of people agree with your last 2 statements. I’ve always been a Stoops supporter but I wouldn’t mind seeing him move on . I guess the A&M thing is debatable. Evidently Mitch didn’t think it was a fireable reason.
We have also lost to Vandy with a new coach 2 out of the last 3 years, USC with a new coach 3 in a row, Missouri with a new coach has left us in the dust, UT with a new coach 3 in a row, ........we have fallen back to the bottom of the SEC in the past 3 years whether you want to admit it or not.
Stoops is done here. The question is how long will he hang on for that big paycheck and further bury the program, like Cal did the basketball program???
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Bump - UK loses to Florida... a losing season is firmly in place
The teams he was never beating, well he hasn't made any progress on.
The teams he was beating, are now starting to beat him.
That's regression.
Time to move on. Good luck. Wish all the best. Thanks for the memories.
Time to start making out a short list.
The teams he was beating, are now starting to beat him.
That's regression.
Time to move on. Good luck. Wish all the best. Thanks for the memories.
Time to start making out a short list.
Stoops has made his living on beating Louisville and getting the best of Florida. Now we are losing to Vanderbilt at home.... lost to Florida this year and we will see if this team still cares by the time Louisville game comes around.
Hire vandys coach. Can't beat him so let him try to keep uk out of embarrassing last place
This has to be it. The situation is basically becoming Cal 2.0, a once good but now past his prime coach dragging the program with him. Appreciate him for what he has done but it is WELL past time to find a new voice.
This board is not generally representative of the actual fan base. I think it is in this case, but it’s wrong to think this place isn’t a fringe minority in most cases.
See “I think it is in this case”. A lot of the people calling for this on here have been doing it for years, when it wasn’t representative of how most people felt.
I think most casual fans thinks stoops sucks. The hardcore fans are more forgiving but most of them have turned now. People want a winner today. Not what you did 4 or 5 years ago.
I think the Calipari problem was a lot more complex.
Cal had won a national championship and been to multiple final 4's. He actually had the success that you can point to when you refuse to step down gracefully. He also had a ton of ego, that at one point, he had earned.
Stoops has none of that. He has 2 Citrus Bowls (1 of which we vacated). He's 20+ games under .500 vs the SEC. He's a garbage coach who had a few good years.
Whereas Cal was never going to leave, I don't see how Stoops wants to be here next season.
Cal had won a national championship and been to multiple final 4's. He actually had the success that you can point to when you refuse to step down gracefully. He also had a ton of ego, that at one point, he had earned.
Stoops has none of that. He has 2 Citrus Bowls (1 of which we vacated). He's 20+ games under .500 vs the SEC. He's a garbage coach who had a few good years.
Whereas Cal was never going to leave, I don't see how Stoops wants to be here next season.
What sane D1 college wants him?
I mean I want to believe he will leave, but we have an AD paying him a top 10 D1 salary producing this. Why would he willingly leave this gravy train?
Bowl eligible is the biggest joke on this UK fan base. The Stoops Era is all smoke and mirrors that leads down a rabbit hole to wonderland, wonder how he is worth 9million a year.
The entire School should be ashamed of the football program and how it’s administrated. Until the UK fans quit making excuses for mediocrity and become a true SEC program which put winning above all else bottom feeding is in our future
I don't want him to leave until Mitch is gone. Do you want to trust Mitch to hire the next coach? I would put money on him taking the easy route and hiring Brad White.
It really doesn’t matter who the coach is until we learn how to embrace NIL at the AD level
UK has a good defense, not elite. But with no offense to score its all wasted IMHO.
Until the so called grounds for dismissal are the same at UK as they are at Bama, Georgia, etc all UK has no football program.
Wrong stoops can't coach no matter how much you "PONY UP "
For me, complete embarrassment when talking about our football program should be the grounds for dismissal.
This might not be a popular comparison, but Stoops reminds me of what Marvin Lewis did with the Bengals: Brought us from perennial laughingstock to respectability with an occasional better than normal season. But just like with Lewis, Stoops has a ceiling that’s been reached and we will not ever go above that ceiling under his watch.
I think it’s time. Stoops has plateaued and I would bet his results will continue to decline the longer he stays, just like with Marvin.
I think it’s time. Stoops has plateaued and I would bet his results will continue to decline the longer he stays, just like with Marvin.
Since his marital issues surfaced, he has not been the same coach and the results on the field reflect this. He has not been able to keep his coaching staff intact and has seen a revolving door especially at OC . On field player discipline also is an issue. So yes I voted for a change. The goal should be to have an offensive minded coach who is actually capable of calling plays if needed.
OK, seems like the majority want a change. Estimates indicate that will cost about 44M. So, if we spend that to fire Mark, will there be anything left for NIL?
It's a tough decision and i fully expect Barnyard to repeat his action with Joker. It will take at least another year and a lot of empty seats at Kroger.
It's a tough decision and i fully expect Barnyard to repeat his action with Joker. It will take at least another year and a lot of empty seats at Kroger.
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the tough part is knowing where is a realistic place in the SEC in football is for us. In Basketball we should be in the top 3 or better every year.
There's an old saying in investing, past performance doesn't predict future results. Just because we have been terrible in the past, doesn't mean it has to stay that way. YOU NEED THE RIGHT COACH and Stoops ain't that guy. Hell, Vandy just beat Alabama and don't forget the James Franklin years, it can be done. $9,000,000 a year will get a lot of people's attention. The next coach may not be the one, but you keep trying like Tennessee until you get the right guy. Are we going to be at the top of the league every year, no, but I expect a lot better football than what I have seen this year. Of course Oklahoma fans are probably saying the same thing about needing a new coach.
The whole landscape of college football is changing rapidly. The SEC is now becoming the landing spot for the best talent in the country, accordingly you are seeing traditionally lower tier teams like Vandy and Arkansas knocking off teams ranked in the top 10. MSU is still trying to regroup after the untimely death of their coach but the other 15 teams have talent now so that any one of them is capable of beating another.
What that means is if you want to reach top levels of the SEC and make it to the play offs you likely are not going to do it on talent. You are going to do it on coaching. For evidence of that look no further than Bama who replaces a hall of fame coach that makes the playoffs most every year, replacing him with a good, maybe above average coach.
The fact is the number of coaches that are capable of taking any of these SEC teams to the playoffs is severely limited. They are out there, but no one really knows who they are. Honestly how many of you have ever heard of Clark Lea before this year? Drink at Mizzou was a relatively unknown coach. Some look great on paper but turn out to be flops. The odds against finding one are against you. It's almost trial and error as you see teams like Florida and Tennessee go though multipole coaches looking for the big payoff.
Could Sumrall be the next big coaching success in the SEC? That's the name everyone is locked in on and it could be but IMO if you are setting on making a coaching change you should be prepared for multiple changes if you goal is to make the playoffs because the competition has now become ferocious, and the graveyards are full of "can't miss coaches".
What that means is if you want to reach top levels of the SEC and make it to the play offs you likely are not going to do it on talent. You are going to do it on coaching. For evidence of that look no further than Bama who replaces a hall of fame coach that makes the playoffs most every year, replacing him with a good, maybe above average coach.
The fact is the number of coaches that are capable of taking any of these SEC teams to the playoffs is severely limited. They are out there, but no one really knows who they are. Honestly how many of you have ever heard of Clark Lea before this year? Drink at Mizzou was a relatively unknown coach. Some look great on paper but turn out to be flops. The odds against finding one are against you. It's almost trial and error as you see teams like Florida and Tennessee go though multipole coaches looking for the big payoff.
Could Sumrall be the next big coaching success in the SEC? That's the name everyone is locked in on and it could be but IMO if you are setting on making a coaching change you should be prepared for multiple changes if you goal is to make the playoffs because the competition has now become ferocious, and the graveyards are full of "can't miss coaches".
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