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Many (most) of you called it awhile ago- Cal’s primary interest in coaching is getting guys to the pros, ending generational poverty and whatnot.

I’m sure he doesn’t like losing but it doesn’t eat at him like it does 71-year-old Pitino, Nate Oats, Dan Hurley, etc.

He may possibly be able to still win big if his primary interest and secondary interest (winning) correlate.
 
It's gonna take a shit ton of wins to make dj and Edwards viable pro candidates, given how poorly they've been utilized this year.
 
Many (most) of you called it awhile ago- Cal’s primary interest in coaching is getting guys to the pros, ending generational poverty and whatnot.

I’m sure he doesn’t like losing but it doesn’t eat at him like it does 71-year-old Pitino, Nate Oats, Dan Hurley, etc.

He may possibly be able to still win big if his primary interest and secondary interest (winning) correlate.
I feel like Cal thinks about college basketball wins the same way the BBN looks at UK NBA draft picks -- something nice to have but not really the point of the exercise. This quote certainly doesn't help that feeling.

“We’re expected to be in the Final Four every single year,” he said at SEC Basketball Media Day. “… The last couple of years, we’ve been good but just not Kentucky good. … We have maxed out and we have been good and I’m proud. We got four guys in the league from last year’s group everybody said was ‘oh well.’ You have four guys there. But there’s a Kentucky good. And a Kentucky good is both players standing out and having that group that is just — this, that, that.

 
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Many (most) of you called it awhile ago- Cal’s primary interest in coaching is getting guys to the pros, ending generational poverty and whatnot.

I’m sure he doesn’t like losing but it doesn’t eat at him like it does 71-year-old Pitino, Nate Oats, Dan Hurley, etc.

He may possibly be able to still win big if his primary interest and secondary interest (winning) correlate.
Danny Hurley hadn’t lost in two months and finally got spanked. After he was trying to fight someone.

I want that similar hatred for losing from my coach. Not one in a hurry to get home to walk/stroller Snuggles and patronize fans that aren’t happy with this shit show.

It takes a special effort to do what Cal did the first five years. He gave us his best. I appreciate it. It was marvelous. But he’s done at UK. He will never be that coach unless he leaves and wants to piss UK fans off. Then it’s prolly 50/50 at best.
 
-Audiobooks-

Just finished Meateater’s The Long Hunters 1761-1775 (Daniel Boone and associates). Non fiction

Fantastic! Highly recommend.

Fiction, any of the Jack Carr James Reece/Terminal List series. Or Mark Greaney’s Grey Man series.

Funny, Tom Segura’s I’d Like To Play Alone.
I refuse to do the restaurant, server/bartender thing in my 40’s and other than that you pretty much go back to the same office type work that’s every where else, but without the idea your missing out on your beach lifestyle you moved for.

Honestly KY has gotten so mild during the winter I don’t really even see a deterrent here as far as weather goes.
No deterrent lol, it was basically single digits the two weeks I was home and cold rain for a while after that. I just can’t deal with those two months after the Christmas lights come down, but honestly glad it doesn’t bother you.

I’m cold in the 60s here 😬 but having the windows and doors open the last couple weeks has been nice.

And yes it’s EXACTLY the same as working back “anywhere else” except on the weekend you ride your bike to the beach/pool or take your boat out with friends to a sandbar instead of moving from your air conditioned house to your air conditioned car to a round of golf, to the air conditioned restaurant, and back home again, besides that yes, same same 🙄.

- lol @Hank Camacho yeah “99% of the American population can move to a destination location” they just enjoy Topeka soooooo much.

I’d argue 60% of the American population can’t afford to go to Key West for a week without going into some debt much less MOVE to a tropical location.

Even more so, one of the questions we get asked the most often is “where you from” followed by “how’d you move here?”

After you tell them you quit everything and just move they ALWAYS say “oh I could never do that. My family/friends/work/kids/etc blah blah.” Aka people are terrified of leaving their comfort zone.

So not only can they not afford to, they’re usually scared to.

I’m not saying I did anything special at all, I’m just telling you those are facts, 99% is REALLLLLLLY far off.

Staying at the Hyatt Centric in KW from next Sunday to Monday is $5362.77 (no breakfast included, cheapest price) and you haven’t bought any food, drinks, souvenirs, excursions, plane tickets, Ubers, etc. but I’m sure 99% of the American population has $10K to blow on a week vacation, no worries.

But sure whatever you say 😃.

-First day back working again finally, felt good, right back in rhythm.
 
I think Cal isnt in love with basketball anymore. One reason is what coaches don’t watch other games in their free time? You’d think he’d be trying to steal ideas from other coaches in the bind that he’s in at this point too.

A couple of places he could go if he really wants to coach for a few more years and the situation might revitalize him would be Louisville (& keep Kenny) or Nova (back home and in the same conference as Pitino).
 
Cal to Nova joining his life time rival? I know I’m all in on Cal compared to the rest of you, but even I know he is t really looking for a real challenge.
 
Cal to Nova joining his life time rival? I know I’m all in on Cal compared to the rest of you, but even I know he is t really looking for a real challenge.
He’d be back home and competing against the coach who he loves competing against the most. He does a lot better against the coaches he dislikes (Pitino/Pearl) than the ones he is friends with (Barnes/Few).

Some other potential spots if he wanted to leave would be UCLA, Michigan, Vandy, Arkansas (if Muss goes to Louisvillle). He’s said he wants to coach 5 more years so I could see him going to one of these places instead of retiring. He would probably want to retire on a good note even if that has to be somewhere else.
 
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He’d be back home and competing against the coach who he loves competing against the most. He does a lot better against the coaches he dislikes (Pitino/Pearl) than the ones he is friends with (Barnes/Few).

Some other potential spots if he wanted to leave would be UCLA, Michigan, Vandy, Arkansas (if Muss goes to Louisvillle). He’s said he wants to coach 5 more years so I could see him going to one of these places instead of retiring. He would probably want to retire on a good note even if that has to be somewhere else.

That all sounds good, but I’d all but guarantee he’ll be back next year for another year of redass!

That’s a lock!
 
That all sounds good, but I’d all but guarantee he’ll be back next year for another year of redass!

That’s a lock!
The contract is a huge issue but I think ultimately Cal is as sick of the fans and administration/boosters as we all are of him and will pull a Tubby.

Hopefully he’ll agree to something less the full buyout so he can go somewhere else. Maybe we can defer some of it.

A complicated secondary issue is the clause that kicks in soon that gives him $1 million for life. How could he possibly be an ambassador of the program while coaching at a different school?
 
Can we get Cal to do the recruiting and Pitino to be the bench coach?
I want Oats who can do both but in order to get there we may need Drew to turn us down which is something I heard his staff is putting out. Obviously doing that for recruiting but there may more to those rumors.

Either that or someone else helps Mitch make the hire in like last time. Not sure who that would be. Maybe Givens and Master?

To complicate matters further, I think Oats’ buyout is 19 million (maybe it goes down after this year) but when you combine two enormous buyouts for Cal and whomever they hire it’s a tremendously complicated issue. Matt Jones is adamant that they can’t afford the full buyout too.
 
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Well he currently has the #2 ranked recruiting class coming in next year and 32M left on his deal.

He isn’t going anywhere on his own, and he isn’t going to leave a single penny left unpaid to him.

The kicker is UK basketball is profitable. We’ll see a large turnout for the SEC tournament and every game we are in the NCAA tournament.

If we beat Alabama tomorrow, I think we will, then we will not be out of the Top 25. So we are saying it’s worth 32M to fire a coach that had us as a 2 seed two seasons ago which is Top 10, Top 25 most if not all of last season and Top 25 all of this season?

Another thing Matt Jones also says is Cal has ran off the big boosters from basketball side so they aren’t as likely to chip in on the buyout and I think Cal is calculated enough to see how to make that in his benefit and orchestrate that.
 
Well he currently has the #2 ranked recruiting class coming in next year and 32M left on his deal.

He isn’t going anywhere on his own, and he isn’t going to leave a single penny left unpaid to him.

The kicker is UK basketball is profitable. We’ll see a large turnout for the SEC tournament and every game we are in the NCAA tournament.

If we beat Alabama tomorrow, I think we will, then we will not be out of the Top 25. So we are saying it’s worth 32M to fire a coach that had us as a 2 seed two seasons ago which is Top 10, Top 25 most if not all of last season and Top 25 all of this season?

Another thing Matt Jones also says is Cal has ran off the big boosters from basketball side so they aren’t as likely to chip in on the buyout and I think Cal is calculated enough to see how to make that in his benefit and orchestrate that.
Recruiting class wise I don’t think he has any close connections to those guys like with Wagner and he could possibly take some of them with him.

If he doesn’t go somewhere on his own and we don’t get out of the first weekend again this year, then they should bring up possible termination which he doesn’t want. He wants to coach more so to avoid that then he could resign and we could negotiate the buyout in lieu of termination.

I’d say Mitch would be all for it if the administration had his back on it. One thing I’ve heard recently is that Mitch didn’t want to do the lifetime contract but the administration forced it on him. Now this may be the only way out of it and the administration and boosters are fed up.

The bottom line is Cal doesn’t want to be here any longer either and is smart enough to figure a way out as well so could possibly leave on his own accord as well.
 
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What I don’t get is why is money so important over happiness to some people. Cal probably has 25 million in the bank why would you stay somewhere when you already have “touch you” money?

If I have 10 grand and I’m not happy at a job I’ll quit and find something else. Just never understood why someone with double digit millions thinks it’s better to continue to do something you’re hating than just moving on.

I get some peoples drive is the most money possible, what a wasteful, pointless pursuit, you have the money to do anything you want, why be unhappy? Stubbornness?
 
Has nothing to do with fear. I’m not impacted either way what so ever.

It’s rationalizing both sides from a business type logic and not considering the emotions of fans.

I want him gone, but I know it isn’t happening.
 
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Reminder that Reed was our “worst” recruit - behind someone like Bradshaw who, as far as I can tell, had never played basketball before and was recruited based on still photographs. Our first or second best recruit, meanwhile, can’t go to his right despite being right-handed.


Bradshaw, Edwards, and Wagner were our highest rated recruits. Reeves and Thiero were barely top 200 IIRC. The game has changed, and evaluating HS AAU players has become more and more of a crapshoot. Anyone giving a shit about a top HS recruiting class has lost their minds at this point. This was Cals chance to show us his old glory with a top class, and if it wasn’t for his 4th and 5th rated recruits and a last minute transfer from WVU (one a legacy not expected to even contribute) it would’ve been another god awful disaster.
 
Read it here or somewhere else the theory that AAU has basically ruined kids playing well-organized basketball, it’s just street-ball ISO’s and mix tapes.

Now I have no idea, don’t watch AAU, but it made since on why so many top draft picks are now coming from overseas and actually producing, these dudes are Luka and Giannis, not Darko.
 
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Just launched a neighbor war.

I put in a formal complaint with the town that our next door neighbor has had a storage Pod sitting in their driveway for over 4 years. I’m about to dump a bunch of cash on on my landscaping and I would like a panorama of manicured greatness… not to be sullied by this gnarly storage unit.

Eff it… Leggo.
 
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