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I assume someone already mentioned this (I ain't going beck to see) but Darius Miller is a guy who improved his stock immensely by staying for 4 years. Sure his first year was under Billy Gillispie, but so what. Same for Jorts.

The idea that no marginally talented guy would ever be better off by staying in school is demonstrably false.
 
How is Gabriel coming back to Kentucky anything other than the lock of the century?

He's on track to graduate next year. There is zero chance that he'll get drafted this year and he might not even get a courtesy tryout for most teams. He's at best a G-League player right now.

Andbytheway, he's also somewhat athletic and has the makings of a decent shot so with another year of development there is reason to think that he could play his way into being a late first round pick as a 3 and D stretch 4 in the new NBA.

So he is looking at either going to the G-League or Slovenia or returning to UK, getting his degree, and developing another year under the greatest hype man since Don King with the chance of potentially turning himself into a first round pick and getting a guaranteed contract that would completely change the finances of his family tree?

How is this even a discussion? Same thing with Humphries. What are we even talking about with this sort of stuff?
 
I assume someone already mentioned this (I ain't going beck to see) but Darius Miller is a guy who improved his stock immensely by staying for 4 years. Sure his first year was under Billy Gillispie, but so what. Same for Jorts.

The idea that no marginally talented guy would ever be better off by staying in school is demonstrably false.
Of course they can BUT to act like they're crazy for heading elsewhere or pro just because they're not a draft prick is equally demonstrably false and mostly a result of selfish desires for UK to be better.

Not to be accurate because I know you have your shtick to protect, both those guys were late 2nd rd picks and played in Europe. So immensly is probably a bit of overstatement.
 
If Gabrielle is ready to throw away his NBA dream, by all means, leave. Because it is the lock of the century that he’ll never play a meaningful minute or have more than a 1 year league minimum contract if he leaves right now.

If he stays and develops he at least has a chance.

He can do what he wants, but if his desire is to leave now it’s objectively stupid if he cares about potential long term success.

Just because I selfishly want him to return doesn’t mean his decision is any smarter.
 
Is there any precedent for college players leaving early, playing overseas and then making the NBA?

I can't think of many examples off the top of my head. Danny Green, maybe?

The path to NBA riches in you're American seems pretty clear: stay in high school or college until you are a guaranteed first round pick (preferably a lottery pick) and you are mature enough to set yourself up to get a second contract based on your initial performance.

Acting like kids can go get better NBA training in the G-League or Europe than they can in college while also making some paper seems pretty silly, imo.
 
Not to be accurate because I know you have your shtick to protect, both those guys were late 2nd rd picks and played in Europe. So immensly is probably a bit of overstatement.

Darius Miller played 81 games this year, six years after he graduated.

Josh Harrelson played three years in the league.

They've both made millions in the NBA, not counting what they've made overseas.

Obviously, neither one of those guys would have ever had anything close to the careers they had if they'd left early.

Apparently, pointing out the obvious is now a "schtick."
 
Well, I too hope he returns for 2 more years and becomes a 1st Rd pick.

Wenyen is so smart. He is all about UK. The coaching he'll receive is the best and I hope he bottoms out every theta on campus.
With that thing he can skewer multiple Thetas like a kabob.
 
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Emmanuel Mudiay went to China, and is in NBA.

Yeah but wasn't he going to be ineligible anyway, which was why no one reputable would recruit him and he committed to SMU?

Also, if the choice is to go live in touching China and make decent loot for a year before going to the NBA versus going to an American university, not getting paid, and then going to the NBA, I'd have to see a number some multiple commas before I'm going to China.

And the point remains, wouldn't that kid have been better prepared for the NBA by learning under Larry Brown for a year than whatever he did in China?
 
Darius Miller played 81 games this year, six years after he graduated.

Josh Harrelson played three years in the league.

They've both made millions in the NBA, not counting what they've made overseas.

Obviously, neither one of those guys would have ever had anything close to the careers they had if they'd left early.

Apparently, pointing out the obvious is now a "schtick."
Schtick is taking little cutesy pot shots these days.

Hard to say what they would have done but a brief stint in the league with several years in Europe is certainly possible.
 
Yeah but wasn't he going to be ineligible anyway, which was why no one reputable would recruit him and he committed to SMU?

Also, if the choice is to go live in touching China and make decent loot for a year before going to the NBA versus going to an American university, not getting paid, and then going to the NBA, I'd have to see a number some multiple commas before I'm going to China.

And the point remains, wouldn't that kid have been better prepared for the NBA by learning under Larry Brown for a year than whatever he did in China?
Regardless of benefitting from the genius of Larry Brown, Mudiay was paid to be hurt in China whilst being coached by Hop Sing.

He was drafted 7th overall.

Eff Larry Brown. Eff Cal. You got skills? They’ll find you.

He did ok for himself without the NCAA eligibility bullshit - which is what most of these kids are trying to avoid.
 
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