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Espn: cal still working to bring back shaedon sharpe

I never thought Tubby would have Minny or any other team in the Final 4 after UK. He ran his course here. He was handed keys to Camelot and sunk it slowly. Cal came in with guns a blazing had us on top and is slowly starting to sink us. It’s the same deal with Cal once he leaves Camelot he wont ever have another team on top he has ran his course too! I just think being the basketball coach at UK is a hard and stressful job but I really and truly believe it has a shelf life of 10 years. Cal being past his 10 years is really starting to show and he just refuses to change with times.
That is the kind of fair critique that makes this board worth reading. The mindless bashing doesn't add anything. I am somewhat in the middle with Cal. I still think he can bring us back. After all, we did just have a pretty good season until injuries took their toll (Yeah, I know that can be Cal's fault too.), but I am willing to see how next year turns out. For now, like it or hate it, Cal is here to say for a while.
 
That is the kind of fair critique that makes this board worth reading. The mindless bashing doesn't add anything. I am somewhat in the middle with Cal. I still think he can bring us back. After all, we did just have a pretty good season until injuries took their toll (Yeah, I know that can be Cal's fault too.), but I am willing to see how next year turns out. For now, like it or hate it, Cal is here to say for a while.
See I’m reasonable too and I just can see how this is going to end. You’re correct in one sense he’s here next year but if he has an ending like he did this year. I disagree that he won’t be here after next year there will be a buyout negotiated because that would be 3 bad years in a row and no coach at UK survives that many bad seasons in a row. Hey buddy you feel how you do and I feel how I do have a good day.
 
Honestly, after all that’s happened, I’d prefer he stay in the draft. Thinking about him sitting on the bench, while other guys were playing hurt, as we lost to end our season…..just doesn’t sit well with me. Don’t need that kind of player on my team, don’t care how good he is. Go make your money.
I can't ever imagine great players like Bird or Jordan from the heyday of basketball....being willing to ride the pine as they watched their teammates battle injuries. The NBA and NIL has turned college basketball into a mere shadow of what it used to be.
 
a players first coach would not be working a top 5 lottery pick to come back.

a desperate coach would.

end of discussion
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I think maybe Calipari is beginning to understand what his situation is

He’s laughed all these years about our fan base being crazy. But I don’t think he truly comprehends how unique we really are. We aren’t casual about our program; we know our history, we know the GAME. And the majority of our fans are not blind followers…we demand excellence, because Kentucky has earned it.
As has been stated on multiple occasions…this Sharpe thing is the cherry on top: we’ve lost our standing in the basketball world…all of our records, streaks…the respect we used to command.
We’re not anyones Super Bowl anymore; we’re just another team. That is unacceptable.
 
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I think maybe Calipari is beginning to understand what his situation is

He’s laughed all these years about our fan base being crazy. But I don’t think he truly comprehends how unique we really are. We aren’t casual about our program; we know our history, we know the GAME. And the majority of our fans are not blind followers…we demand excellence, because Kentucky has earned it.
As has been stated on multiple occasions…this Sharpe thing is the cherry on top: we’ve lost our standing in the basketball world…all of our records, streaks…the respect we used to command.
We’re not anyones Super Bowl anymore; we’re just another team. That is unacceptable.
Well said and exactly how many,many fans I know feel.
Great post.
 
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I think maybe Calipari is beginning to understand what his situation is

He’s laughed all these years about our fan base being crazy. But I don’t think he truly comprehends how unique we really are. We aren’t casual about our program; we know our history, we know the GAME. And the majority of our fans are not blind followers…we demand excellence, because Kentucky has earned it.
As has been stated on multiple occasions…this Sharpe thing is the cherry on top: we’ve lost our standing in the basketball world…all of our records, streaks…the respect we used to command.
We’re not anyones Super Bowl anymore; we’re just another team. That is unacceptable.
This post needs to be pinned at the top!!

All of the cliches Cal uses about UK Basketball especially “This place isn’t for everyone” or “It’s hard here” have become a harsh reality for him. I’m just hoping his huge ego either drives him to return us to his first 7 seasons here or he gets tired of the enormous expectations of this job and moves on.
 
That is the kind of fair critique that makes this board worth reading. The mindless bashing doesn't add anything. I am somewhat in the middle with Cal. I still think he can bring us back. After all, we did just have a pretty good season until injuries took their toll (Yeah, I know that can be Cal's fault too.), but I am willing to see how next year turns out. For now, like it or hate it, Cal is here to say for a while.
The problem with Cal supporters is that there is always some excuse for his team's poor performances. UK didn't experience anything that other teams didn't have to deal with. This disaster had nothing to do with injuries or players. It has everything to do with the one consistent component of UK basketball since Cal's arrival. Cal!! He simply can't coach. When he was the only coach going after the one-and-done players, he was able to overcome his poor coaching with more talent than anyone else. Unfortunately, he is getting out recruited now which only compounds his inability to coach. Stop with all of the excuses and face reality. UK will never win another NC with CCC as the head coach.
 
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a players first coach would not be working a top 5 lottery pick to come back.

a desperate coach would.

end of discussion
by your logic coach K was always desperate
up until the last 3-4 years he always talked 5 star recruits to return

are you with Cal and the Sharpe family and privy what they are discussing?
 
by your logic coach K was always desperate
up until the last 3-4 years he always talked 5 star recruits to return

are you with Cal and the Sharpe family and privy what they are discussing?
Strange but I seem to remember Cal fans bashing K for that and saying he didn't care about his players.Now that Cal is doing it it's great.
 
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I think maybe Calipari is beginning to understand what his situation is

He’s laughed all these years about our fan base being crazy. But I don’t think he truly comprehends how unique we really are. We aren’t casual about our program; we know our history, we know the GAME. And the majority of our fans are not blind followers…we demand excellence, because Kentucky has earned it.
As has been stated on multiple occasions…this Sharpe thing is the cherry on top: we’ve lost our standing in the basketball world…all of our records, streaks…the respect we used to command.
We’re not anyones Super Bowl anymore; we’re just another team. That is unacceptable.
Great post, @Bkocats !
 
Actually it's a different thing when a kid tells a team that he would play the next season. Different situations. Plus kids receiving nil for first time last year is different instance too just saying..
 
Why would Cal let this get out? I didn’t read the article and am only basing it on the posts here. What is going on with him lately? He’s normally the best PR man in the game and he’s been a disaster for the last 2 years. Why would Cal want it out that he’s trying to force a kid back to school? Why would Cal want a kid that’s being forced back to college? Kid clearly doesn’t want to be in college. Asking for a cancer.
I don’t see how he’s trying to force anything?
 
Serious question: Weren't you one of the staunch Tubby defenders on this board? And, if so, weren't you doing then what you are now accusing Cal defenders of doing?
You are really reaching in your justification for defending CCC. It is really sad that your best defense for CCC is something that didn't happen when Tubby was here many years ago, what a joke. When Tubby left, he didn't leave fast enough for me. So, I don't know who you think you are talking to, but it certainly isn't someone who defended Tubby as you are defending CCC. I suspect that you are assuming certain things about me because of my picture; therefore, your assumption that I defended Tubby because he is black is WRONG! However, I have no issue with stating that Tubby represented UK many times better than CCC. Tubby showed fans a great deal more respect than CCC ever has or will.
 
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I would rather you so-called fans hang it up. UK would be better off without a lot of you.
I don't recall anyone asking you what you want from so-called fans. I am surprised that you were able to pull your nose out of CCC's butt long enough to make your silly post.
 
I don't recall anyone asking you what you want from so-called fans. I am surprised that you were able to pull your nose out of CCC's butt long enough to make your silly post.
I can say what I want on this board. My views are valid and mostly fair. You and your mob aren't being fair or objective.
 
Had nothing to do with the picture or the assumed color of your skin. Contrary to so many on this board, I never assume whether or a poster is black or white. I thought you were one of the big Tubby defenders who screamed racism at every criticism. Maybe I confused you with another poster? If so, I apologize.
You certainly confused me with someone else. When it comes to UK coaches, they are here to do a job, just as players are here to perform well. When either are no longer capable of doing their jobs well, it is time for them to go. Skin color has nothing to do with any of this.
 
If you can say what you want on this board, so can the so-called mob!
The mob has dominated this board for weeks. They want it that way. The Tubby apologists did the same back in the day. They tried to hijack every thread that even remotely criticized Tubby.
 
There is no need to apologize. I believe you want what is best for UK just as every other poster. We just happen to see what is best for UK differently.

I am not that far off from those who want Cal gone. I am just sick of it being an endless bashing of everything and anything Cal does. I think the point has been made that Cal has failed. At some point this needs to just become somewhat constructive. It isn't at all right now.
 
The mob has dominated this board for weeks. They want it that way. The Tubby apologists did the same back in the day. They tried to hijack every thread that even remotely criticized Tubby.
Even if your intentions are good, calling other fans the mob just because they don't agree with you does nothing but causes the so-called mob to retaliate.
 
I am not that far off from those who want Cal gone. I am just sick of it being an endless bashing of everything and anything Cal does. I think the point has been made that Cal has failed. At some point this needs to just become somewhat constructive. It isn't at all right now.
Just as you are sick of fans bashing Cal, fans are sick of Cal talking down to them and lying to them.
 
Massively desperate if he tries to keep the kid around and don't give a crap about Kentucky/NBA first if he doesn't.

No matter what action is take great umbrage can be taken.

Noice!
 
Even if your intentions are good, calling other fans the mob just because they don't agree with you does nothing but causes the so-called mob to retaliate.
Actually, I was attacked before I even used that word. It is a mob mentality on this board right now. Did you see the thread that was entitled something about "friendly advice." It was a direct attack. It has nothing to do with friendly advice.
 
Just as you are sick of fans bashing Cal, fans are sick of Cal talking down to them and lying to them.

Again, if the criticism is fair, I have no problem with it. But, what we are seeing on this board is not fair or objective.
 
Nope, I was skeptical of BCG from the beginning and yeah, I wanted Tubby gone. However, I didn't want him gone for a million reasons that were ridiculous. I felt he was never going to get back to a FF and he never did. I understand people being unhappy with Cal. I just want them to stop bashing Cal for EVERYTHING he does in life. That is bashing and is actually against the rules of this board.

Okay, since you brought up Tubby. Why is it that so many of those who defended Tubby even after he was gone and said Minny would be in a FF before Kentucky are the SAME ones who are now bashing Cal relentlessly?? Please answer that question. I truly want to know. Some of them are in this thread bashing away. Please explain that!
Speaking for myself. I wanted Tubby gone because I didn’t think he could ever build a team and coach them to a final four. I think time has proven me right. I want Cal gone because I believe the game has passed him by and he will never get to another final four . Time will prove if I am right or not .
 
The problem with Cal supporters is that there is always some excuse for his team's poor performances. UK didn't experience anything that other teams didn't have to deal with. This disaster had nothing to do with injuries or players. It has everything to do with the one consistent component of UK basketball since Cal's arrival. Cal!! He simply can't coach. When he was the only coach going after the one-and-done players, he was able to overcome his poor coaching with more talent than anyone else. Unfortunately, he is getting out recruited now which only compounds his inability to coach. Stop with all of the excuses and face reality. UK will never win another NC with CCC as the head coach.
Injuries did play a part with how this team finished. Ty Ty never regained his mid season form and it was obvious Grady dropped off and we found out after the season a big reason why. We were not national title good after those injuries.

With that being said, Cal doesn't recruit like he once did. Only one top 5 player since 2015, while Duke has signed 10 during that time. Having Sharpe sit over there and watch a hurt Ty Ty and Grady play through pain was ridiculous. Not much character with Sharpe and his handlers to do that. Him using us for NIL and name recognition while waiting on the draft was bs.

Next year's team doesn't have the pieces for a national title. I hate the Cal couldn't recruit a good enough team to help Oscar. I look for Oscars stats to drop next year due to a lack of shooters. It's going to clog up the paint..
 
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Injuries did play a part with how this team finished. Ty Ty never regained his mid season form and it was obvious Grady dropped off and we found out after the season a big reason why. We were not national title good after those injuries.

With that being said, Cal doesn't recruit like he once did. Only one top 5 player since 2015, while Duke has signed 10 during that time. Having Sharpe sit over there and watch a hurt Ty Ty and Grady play through pain was ridiculous. Not much character with Sharpe and his handlers to do that. Him using us for NIL and name recognition while waiting on the draft was bs.

Next year's team doesn't have the pieces for a national title. I hate the Cal couldn't recruit a good enough team to help Oscar. I look for Oscars stats to drop next year due to a lack of shooters. It's going to clog up the paint..
I don't know - if they can't hit the side of the barn, and least he'll be able to rebound
 
The mob has dominated this board for weeks. They want it that way. The Tubby apologists did the same back in the day. They tried to hijack every thread that even remotely criticized Tubby.
But I see it different. It looks to me like the board is EXACTLY like it was during the tubby wars . I’m trying to be respectful here but , you viewed the tubby apologists as trying to ”hijack” every critical thread and you think the ccc mob does the same. Could it be possible that you view it that way because you are on the opposite side of each ? I was a proud member of the LOD back in the day . I see you as being just like the tubby apologists . Both seem to think the UK coach is above reproach and want to shut any criticism down . I’m sure you see me just like the tubby apologists did back then . Do you remember “release the squirms” , “keyser soze “, and “smokeypearl “ ? I had some real battles with those guys , lol .
 
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Injuries did play a part with how this team finished. Ty Ty never regained his mid season form and it was obvious Grady dropped off and we found out after the season a big reason why. We were not national title good after those injuries.

With that being said, Cal doesn't recruit like he once did. Only one top 5 player since 2015, while Duke has signed 10 during that time. Having Sharpe sit over there and watch a hurt Ty Ty and Grady play through pain was ridiculous. Not much character with Sharpe and his handlers to do that. Him using us for NIL and name recognition while waiting on the draft was bs.

Next year's team doesn't have the pieces for a national title. I hate the Cal couldn't recruit a good enough team to help Oscar. I look for Oscars stats to drop next year due to a lack of shooters. It's going to clog up the paint..
It is a sad day when UK needs to have perfectly healthy starters to beat a St. Pete's team. UK use to be able to beat most teams with its bench. Now we have to be injury free to win.

Ty Ty will likely be a fast exit out of the NBA. To be honest, he isn't quick enough defensively and he displays a real aversion to pain which isn't a good fit for the NBA. The moment he starts reacting to rough play like he did at UK will be the beginning of the end for his NBA career. Washington won't be able to handle the kind of rough play that Trae Young is playing through.
 
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It is a sad day when UK needs to have perfectly healthy starters to beat a St. Pete's team. UK use to be able to beat most teams with its bench. Now we have to be injury free to win.

Ty Ty will likely be a fast exit out of the NBA. To be honest, he isn't quick enough defensively and he displayed a real aversion to pain which isn't a good fit for the NBA. The moment he starts reacting to rough play like he did at UK will be the beginning of the end for his NBA career. Washington won't be able to handle the kind of rough play that Trae Young is playing through.
No excuse not to beat St. Pete (although they were much better than their seed if they make an elite 8). I just don't think we were healthy enough to win a title. Last year was a nice team when healthy. I don't think this year will be even when healthy. Lack of shooters will probably be what does it in. Also, you need to get a dog in the OAD system and Cal has quit getting the top kids..
 
No excuse not to beat St. Pete (although they were much better than their seed if they make an elite 8). I just don't think we were healthy enough to win a title. Last year was a nice team when healthy. I don't think this year will be even when healthy. Lack of shooters will probably be what does it in. Also, you need to get a dog in the OAD system and Cal has quit getting the top kids..
St. Pete's was good because they were coached to be good. I haven't researched this, but I am willing to bet that there wasn't a top 50 player on their team. I would be very surprised if their best player had a higher ranking coming out of high school than UK's second five off the bench. Just imagine what St. Pete's coach could have done with UK's talent considering what he did with far less. He coached to his team's strength not to some system that didn't fit his team's skill set.
 
I don’t see how he’s trying to force anything?
Yeah I actually read the article finally and thought the same thing. I do still think it’s funny that his brand for 20 years has always been that if you’re a first round/lottery lock he’ll push you out the door but now that he’s desperate he’s like “well Sharpe hasn’t decided..blah, blah, blah”. Early era Cal would be telling the media that Sharpe would be in the draft 100% even if he had to drive him there. Lol
 
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