But, you know, that's actually not a small college lineup. Pretty good size across the board.
Dalton Knecht
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I watched the "modern offense" during the tournament. Basically the modern offense consists of a Weave and Hope. 5 guys on the perimeter and hope the shot goes in.
I wish that no starter played more than 30 minutes. I think that's the cause of UK's injury woes.
Realism
Edwards will be at the 3, not the 4. So 3 perimeter spots, not 4. If there is a 4th, he will be bigger than Edwards.
Who cares what number they play (3 or 4)? Just put some talent on the floor that can score. Let the opponents adjust to what uk does. Be an innovator not just a clone of everyone else.
Know what how. That the small lineup would work or that knecht to Kentucky isn’t likely right now. The recruiting people have hinted at unc and IU pushing for him along with some others, and pilgrim said Kentucky told knecht they may have a spot for him but they can’t promise anything so I am just putting all the information together
Before you have Dillingham and Bradshaw coming off the bench, you might want to check with their handlers.
Edwards never at the 4, if big hulk Livingston was never at the 4 no way Edwards is. I know Chris is an inch shorter but he’s meaner and bigger and was never used there
Just a quick look at Knecht and Northern Colorado (12-20/ 6-12 Big Sky)
- N. Colorado played five teams that went to 2023 NCAA Tourney (Lost all five games by an average of 25-ppg)
- Knecht averaged 12.4-ppg/ 6.4-reb/ 1.0-ast in these five losses against higher competition
- IMO, could be a 4th-5th option or high minute bench role player, if he's looking towards better competition and chance for possible tourney success
- Also, played against one big-time team in 21-22, 8th rated Texas, N. Colorado lost by 13 and Knecht went for 4-pts/ 4-rebs/ 1-ast
- DK was the best option on bad team and had to be a volume shooter because of team quality, one shot every 2.31-minutes. Antonio Reeves put up a shot every 2.35-minutes, Oscar every 3.08-minutes
Dillingham, Wagner, Edwards, and Bradshaw will all likely start. The fifth starter probably ends up being a big man (Tshiebwe or a transfer).
Can’t really see Cal going small and playing Knecht with those four. It could work, but I just can’t see it. Cal hates small ball. Like DeerTurkHunter1 said, if he won’t play Livingston at the 4, it’s highly unlikely he would play Edwards or Knecht at the 4. Both are closer to being 2’s than 4’s.
In someone else’s system, it might work, but in Cal’s system, not likely.
Can’t really see Cal going small and playing Knecht with those four. It could work, but I just can’t see it. Cal hates small ball. Like DeerTurkHunter1 said, if he won’t play Livingston at the 4, it’s highly unlikely he would play Edwards or Knecht at the 4. Both are closer to being 2’s than 4’s.
In someone else’s system, it might work, but in Cal’s system, not likely.
Agree. Now can we get the players, handlers, or whoever is still causing players to obsess over it to go along?
What??
Have you ever watched basketball before?
This kid is absolutely nothing like Kyle Wiltjer, not to mention Wiltjer was a big man and this is a guard.
So basically- they're both white and can shoot a little bit?
Great contribution.
Yeah knecht can definitely create with the ball and is more athletic than wiltjer, his stats agaisnt power 5 teams aren’t great, but with other talent he can put up good numbers, I hope Kentucky goes after him more aggressively and gets him
UConn had 3 guys on their bench that would start at a good chunk of school in division one, I want Kentucky to have that depth and have more than just reeves being able to shoot the ball. Gosh I’m so selfish
I think we'll end up having a solid 8 pieces that could start across D-1.
The 4 main freshman + Reeves for sure. Then you have the wildcards of Oscar and Livingston, but if they both leave, I think we'll bring in at least 2 from the portal. Then Reed Sheppard, Thiero, etc.
I think we'll be deep- I am trusting Cal one last time to build this roster the way it SHOULD be built.
Not like last season.
The four freshman for sure, I’ve already accepted Livingston is gone Oscar is 50/50. If they get a portal big who is competent, that’s five. Reed/theiro one of them will be playable that’s 6, they need to get a hybrid foward for the ugo/Collins roll that 7, and then reeves and one preferably two more shooters. I would like 8-9. Dillingham is still a asterisk for me but if he comes then go get one knockdown really good shooter
If we play our freshmen 30 plus minutes per game it will be a repeat of the last two seasons injuries will start piling up Cal must recruit more players not just bench warmers but people who can actually play
So Knecht looks great in this snippet. Does he do as well against SEC size and speed? Who says he won’t be another Frederick? Hard to judge a players impact for us that has faced much lesser competition.
I don't know the roster of UConn like you do, but I accept what you're saying as accurate and agree with you. So, why shouldn't UK be both willing and able to do this with all their advantages? We all understand that UK can't get every good player, but I absolutely think Calipari should try to put together the best team of 13 college players he can land.
It should be totally irrelevant what recruit is coming in or what player is already on the roster. If an OAD recruit isn't better than the best upperclassmen from the portal - and they usually won't be - then the recruit should be the backup, not the starter. If the freshmen is, or eventually becomes, the better player he should be the starter. But present impact on winning should be the determining factor, not high school ranking or draft projection, etc.
The amount of underestimating I've seen on here when it comes to Dillingham boggles my mind. Dilly could very well be our best freshman coming in next year, and will be the true PG we have lacked the past couple of years.
Dillingham is a top-notch scorer, can get his shot when and wherever he wants, is a great facilitator and also breaks down a defense. There is no way that he isn't our starter and plays 32 plus minutes a game.
I just do not see Wagner as a true PG, but more of a combo guard. We need a true floor general, especially one with the scoring mentality of Dilly. When was the last time we have had that on a UK team? A successful team needs this in today's collegiate environment, and it will be great to finally have one.
I want Dalton, too, and hopefully Cal will have the correct rotation to make it work. If he can do something along the lines of the following, let's make it happen.
Dilly, Wagner, Edwards, Dalton and Bradshaw should all have around the same minutes as a starter, with Dilly playing the majority of the 1, with Wagner and Thiero rotating over when Rob needs a break. Wagner, Shephard and hopefully Reeves and Dalton getting minutes at the 2 spot, with Wagner getting the majority of the minutes. Edwards, Dalton, and even Reeves getting minutes at the 3, with Edwards and Dalton getting the majority. Edwards, Dalton and hopefully another legit transfer that is more of a true 4 all getting minutes at the 4 spot, with Edwards and Dalton again getting the majority of the minutes there. Bradshaw, Ware and hopefully that other legit transfer playing the 5, with Bradshaw playing the majority of the minutes at the 5.
Dillingham is a top-notch scorer, can get his shot when and wherever he wants, is a great facilitator and also breaks down a defense. There is no way that he isn't our starter and plays 32 plus minutes a game.
I just do not see Wagner as a true PG, but more of a combo guard. We need a true floor general, especially one with the scoring mentality of Dilly. When was the last time we have had that on a UK team? A successful team needs this in today's collegiate environment, and it will be great to finally have one.
I want Dalton, too, and hopefully Cal will have the correct rotation to make it work. If he can do something along the lines of the following, let's make it happen.
Dilly, Wagner, Edwards, Dalton and Bradshaw should all have around the same minutes as a starter, with Dilly playing the majority of the 1, with Wagner and Thiero rotating over when Rob needs a break. Wagner, Shephard and hopefully Reeves and Dalton getting minutes at the 2 spot, with Wagner getting the majority of the minutes. Edwards, Dalton, and even Reeves getting minutes at the 3, with Edwards and Dalton getting the majority. Edwards, Dalton and hopefully another legit transfer that is more of a true 4 all getting minutes at the 4 spot, with Edwards and Dalton again getting the majority of the minutes there. Bradshaw, Ware and hopefully that other legit transfer playing the 5, with Bradshaw playing the majority of the minutes at the 5.
Again we don't know who northern Colorado players are. Geez this is getting ridiculous board. So we not champions if we get players like this. I bet he'll have a hard time with lots of power 5 teams. Plus Cal can't teach players good enough that may lack the talent of a high level.
Valid questions. We know there are no guarantees with any player coming in from high school or another college. But I think it's clear that the portal guys have faced much tougher and better competition than the high school kids. A mid-major college team is still a whole other world above high school. Basically every Div. I mid-major player was a great high school player. Few high school teams would even have one mid-major caliber player; and even the few "super" high school teams put together that have multiple Div. I prospects are not mature enough to be comparable.
Agree he has been hurt by injuries the past 3-4 years, go get 8-9 good players, and then 10-13 can be guys who are developmental projects but can play in a pinch and help out if needed
Indiana seems to not only be in on Ware but Knecht and Ledlum too. That would be quite the overhaul if Woodson pulls all three in.
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Agree. Huge recruit for us. He's just as big as Edwards or Wagner was to me
You get him you have Reeves, knecht and Edwards for that 2/3 spot. Plus dillingham and shep
I mean, it makes sense. They lost nearly their entire roster. They had a bunch of covid seniors and two declare for the draft.
