bridges down to 3 moves uk visit up to this weekend :

[davekersey]

Bridges is kinda like James Lee, or maybe Justis Winslow. High flyer that last year at Huntington averaged 15.7 points per game, shot 62% from the floor (69% on twos and 46% on threes (46 of 99)). Averaged 10 rebounds, 3 assists and nearly 3 steals.

http://www.maxpreps.com/high-school...tington,wv)/basketball-winter-14-15/stats.htm

 

[jrpross]

it's been 2 for a long time.

The only saving grace I have is that Cal isn't really recruiting any other SFs in the class. Bridges is it. You can call Gabriel a SF if ya want, I guess... but he's about as SF as Thon Maker is. Cal token recruited Jayson Tatum because he's the #2 player in the class.

Yeah. I don't think there's anyone on earth, outside of maybe a half-dozen bucktoothed brainless Hoosier fans, who actually think Indiana has a shot.

 

[jrpross]

Bridges is kinda like James Lee, or maybe Justis Winslow. High flyer that last year at Huntington averaged 15.7 points per game, shot 62% from the floor (69% on twos and 46% on threes (46 of 99)). Averaged 10 rebounds, 3 assists and nearly 3 steals.

http://www.maxpreps.com/high-school...tington,wv)/basketball-winter-14-15/stats.htm

Holy tomato paste, I didn't realize his outside shooting was that good.

 

[SDcatfan13]

What should be made of the Greg Doyle report of a major college coach telling him Bridges is going to Michigan State? Hard to tell how close the coach is to Bridges vs. other sources.

 

[Willy4UK]

One and done players aren't because of a coach.

BS.

 

[BostonCat2001]

I would love to see Izzo's resume if he had the type of talent that Calipari brings in every year.

i would love to see it too. and when you dont get to final fours and win titles...you can bash izzo for failing with all that talent right? right?

but its a problem you wont ever have to worry about. MSU isnt a destination school.

 

[KLucas1]

BS.

Wait. So you are saying that coaches are the reason Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Davis, Jabari Parker, John Wall, Karl Anthony-Towns, Jahill Okafor, etc leave to the NBA after one year?

 

[KLucas1]

i would love to see it too. and when you dont get to final fours and win titles...you can bash izzo for failing with all that talent right? right?

but its a problem you wont ever have to worry about. MSU isnt a destination school.

Who is bashing Calipari? I think he's had a tremendous amount of success. 4 Final 4's in 5 years, 2 National Title game appearances, and a National Title? That's an amazing amount of success.

I think you're absurd to think that Izzo wouldn't have a tremendous amount of success as well with those players too, but oh well. that's your opinion.

 

[stoneycat_20]

Im not freaking out sweet pea..Just having discussion..(I won't lose sleep either way) I joined the board in 2003 ..don't tell me to be a UL fan.. numbnuts

So this year marks the 12th anniversary of you being a terrible poster...congrats?[/QUOTE]

Enough princess....I think he goes to MSU because of the flint connection and the move up for visit...I just see no reason not to come to BBM if it's UK. (To me Izzo said go visit but, not for BBM..That could sway him back to UK..). .... ....not sure you're not a UL troll

 

[BostonCat2001]

Who is bashing Calipari? I think he's had a tremendous amount of success. 4 Final 4's in 5 years, 2 National Title game appearances, and a National Title? That's an amazing amount of success.

I think you're absurd to think that Izzo wouldn't have a tremendous amount of success as well with those players too, but oh well. that's your opinion.

i think it is absurd to think its a given. is izzo a better coach than self? look at self's success with elite, one and done players.

 

[Willy4UK]

Wait. So you are saying that coaches are the reason Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Davis, Jabari Parker, John Wall, Karl Anthony-Towns, Jahill Okafor, etc leave to the NBA after one year?

Well, let's look at that. Andrew Wiggins didn't improve in college based on his "all world" talent. Yeah, he went #1 but Bill self did him no favors. Thankfully Wiggins got into a NBA program for better development.

Anthony Davis wasn't expected to do what he did his freshman year at UK (thankfully he had the best preparation coach in the business)

Jahill Okafor- Went 3rd despite being the "best ever" ( maybe he should have followed KAT and Davis and got the best NBA preparation)

John Wall ditto. Look at him.

You'll notice a trend with Cal. He gets the most out of the players and he gets them prepared.

 

[Willy4UK]

Playing your 1 yr in college absolutely makes a difference who you play for.

 

[wcc31]

I would love to see Izzo's resume if he had the type of talent that Calipari brings in every year.

And I'd love to see what UK's football program would look like if we had Saban and all of his players.

Unfortunately, Alabama is Alabama and UK is UK. Just like Michigan State and UK basketball.

 

[hoggwildcat]

One and done players aren't because of a coach. Jaylen Brown and Ivan Rabb are not going to be a one and done because of Cuonzo Martin's coaching. If Malik Monk goes to Arkansas, he won't be a one and done because of Mike Anderson. One and done talents are one and done talents whereever they go.

Like I said before, how many players like Bridges with the ability to be a one and done has Izzo landed? Answer: Not many. The 2016 class is very good at the top. In other years, Bridges would be considered for the #1 or #2 spot in the rankings. He's going to have the ability to be a one and done wherever he goes.

You don't think a coach can't stunt a player to a point where it would be a bad decision to leave? Come on. I believe some other posters have already have made this point, a coach can cost a player millions of dollars no matter if he leaves early or not. Case in point Rick Pitino cost Samardo Samuals, the #1 player coming out of high school, he took him from being the #1 pick coming out of high school to not being drafted in 2 years and this why Rick does not sign any one and done talent. If a coach does not showcase the players talent it can cost him draft spots. Josh Selby, Cliff Alexander, Shabazz Muhammad, BJ Mullens these are all highly ranked players that went and played for different coaches that didn't fit their style and cost them millions, I could name more.

 

[Willy4UK]

And I'd love to see what UK's football program would look like if we had Saban and all of his players.

Unfortunately, Alabama is Alabama and UK is UK. Just like Michigan State and UK basketball.

/Thread

 

[Tampa_cat54]

And I'd love to see what UK's football program would look like if we had Saban and all of his players.

Unfortunately, Alabama is Alabama and UK is UK. Just like Michigan State and UK basketball.

This X1000 @KLucas1

 

[westerncat]

it's been 2 for a long time.

The only saving grace I have is that Cal isn't really recruiting any other SFs in the class. Bridges is it. You can call Gabriel a SF if ya want, I guess... but he's about as SF as Thon Maker is. Cal token recruited Jayson Tatum because he's the #2 player in the class.

I think you are correct about Cal not recruiting any on the SF's. Bridges has said all along that he wants to play SF in Collage. This is why I think Bridges will pick UK.

 

[KLucas1]

And I'd love to see what UK's football program would look like if we had Saban and all of his players.

Unfortunately, Alabama is Alabama and UK is UK. Just like Michigan State and UK basketball.

Well the difference between UK and Alabama's Football program compared to UK and MSU basketball is pretty astronomical.

 

[BostonCat2001]

“I don’t want to be another Flint player that just didn’t make it that had potential,” Bridges said. “It’s so many people here that have done that.” - Miles Bridges

OUCH!

 

[RipThru]

So, @KLucas...Do you think it's an aberration that most of the kids you are talking about (none of which are MSU) are one and one kids at Duke, Kentucky, etc? It has to do with style of play; it has to do with NBA guys saying Cal gets guys ready for the league. That's the truth of the matter. Cal has coached in the league. Izzo has not. That means something to an 18 year old kid when a guy says " I know what you need to do to go to the NBA and be a high draft pick, because I've been in those meetings. I can also get you in fromt of a ton of NBA scouts at our practices." That means something.

 

[JWat_]

One and done players aren't because of a coach. Jaylen Brown and Ivan Rabb are not going to be a one and done because of Cuonzo Martin's coaching. If Malik Monk goes to Arkansas, he won't be a one and done because of Mike Anderson. One and done talents are one and done talents whereever they go.

Haha, I love these arguments.

Make sure you keep tabs on these "OAD" kids that went to third tier (or worse) programs, specifically LSU, Mississippi State, and Cal.

And feel free to bump this thread around June of next year.

I just want you to answer one question of mine. Is Tyus Jones a OAD if he goes to Michigan State, is Devin Booker?

 

[AtomGreen]

Tyus Jones probably would've been drafted even higher in the 1st round had he gone to MSU. MSU had no proven PG last year and would've relied on Jones heavily. He would've put up bigger numbers on an equally good team.

 

[AtomGreen]

That said, I still think Bridges goes blue though. For him, it's just the safer bet. The stronger family atmosphere at MSU just isn't enough. MSU's lack of one and done's since Zebo will be a major deciding factor.

 

[JWat_]

Tyus Jones probably would've been drafted even higher in the 1st round had he gone to MSU. MSU had no proven PG last year and would've relied on Jones heavily. He would've put up bigger numbers on an equally good team.

An equally good team? That final four game was over before halftime because MSU was outclassed at every position on the floor.

So, just so I have this straight, you honestly believe that Tyus Jones, who was one of the slowest athletes at the combine, would have NOT ONLY been drafted in the first round, but would have possibly played himself up to the lottery, to go on and become MSU's highest picked OAD player ever, after playing with a cast of basketball players inferior to his chosen team?

The surrounding cast is what made Tyus a OAD. Duke made Tyus a OAD. Just like the surrounding cast at Kentucky made Devin Booker a OAD.

For the top players, it doesn't matter as much where you go. For the other 27 or 28 kids in the top 30, it does matter, and it matters a lot.

If Bridges wants a chance to play for money in 2017, he will be in Lexington this time next year.

 

[SpartyRBS]

and thats the problem. set offense doesnt teach you anything and it forces players into your system rather than adapting your system to your talents.

Who told you these things? Do not listen to them ever again.

Anyhow, I'm out. Good luck guys and don't think we're all like COS. MSU fans are a lot cooler.

 

[SpartyRBS]

Also wanted to say that Cal is an outstanding coach. What UK has done is what happens when a great coach hooks up with a great program. You get top end talent and you get them coached up to win it all or at least be in the hunt mor often than not.

Izzo is a great coach as well and has built MSU up from a good, solid program into the 5-10 range. I have never problem with putting UK, KU, UNC, or Duke higher. That's just the way it is.

I will defend some other MSU fans here saying that Izzo would do well with Cal's talent. However, Izzo has a unique personality and he's not for everyone. He's old school whereas Cal does a good job of getting different kinds to gel by year end and he does it with many different personalities over the years. That's probably this biggest thing he doesn't get credit for by the pundits.

I didn't realize there was this much MSU/Izzo hate. I think Izzo and Cal have always been on good terms, IYAM. I think it's just so hard to get kids over UK that a lot of fans get red assed over it like a couple of the MSU fans here. But it's really more of a compliment than anything.

 

[Hoskins21]

I bet you anything the coach GD is referring to is Tom Crean.

 

[CarolinaCat11]

I bet you anything the coach GD is referring to is Tom Crean.

Without a doubt. Who else would "know" and would care to say? Plus -- Doyel works out of Indy. Come on.

 

[AtomGreen]

You're misreading my post. Give MSU a 5 star all American PG and last year's MSU team would've been elite and maxing out at just a Final Four would've been a disappointment. MSU had one glaring hole last year and a true PG who could score as well as facilitate was it. MSU got to a FF with a 3 star true frosh PG who had zero offensive capabilities. That's saying something about 1) that team's overall talent level and 2) Izzo's ability to coach.

Bridges really can't go wrong with either Kentucky or MSU. Both team's have HOF coaches, will be loaded with talent and should be competing for Final Fours and National Titles over the next few years.

An equally good team? That final four game was over before halftime because MSU was outclassed at every position on the floor.

So, just so I have this straight, you honestly believe that Tyus Jones, who was one of the slowest athletes at the combine, would have NOT ONLY been drafted in the first round, but would have possibly played himself up to the lottery, to go on and become MSU's highest picked OAD player ever, after playing with a cast of basketball players inferior to his chosen team?

The surrounding cast is what made Tyus a OAD. Duke made Tyus a OAD. Just like the surrounding cast at Kentucky made Devin Booker a OAD.

For the top players, it doesn't matter as much where you go. For the other 27 or 28 kids in the top 30, it does matter, and it matters a lot.

If Bridges wants a chance to play for money in 2017, he will be in Lexington this time next year.

 

[wcc31]

I didn't realize there was this much MSU/Izzo hate. .

There isn't. I can't recall hearing anyone take shots at Izzos before this recruiting battle. Some UK want to fight anytime they feel the least bit threatened.

 

[DwayneMeighan]

You're misreading my post. Give MSU a 5 star all American PG and last year's MSU team would've been elite and maxing out at just a Final Four would've been a disappointment. MSU had one glaring hole last year and a true PG who could score as well as facilitate was it. MSU got to a FF with a 3 star true frosh PG who had zero offensive capabilities. That's saying something about 1) that team's overall talent level and 2) Izzo's ability to coach.

Bridges really can't go wrong with either Kentucky or MSU. Both team's have HOF coaches, will be loaded with talent and should be competing for Final Fours and National Titles over the next few years.

Why do fans of other teams always do this? It's always "Give such and such 5* players" or "Give Cal 3* star players". They always come up with these hypotheticals to add something to the coach/team they root for and/or take something form Cal/UK. It never fails. Every. Single. Time.

Well, you know what? Such and such doesn't have 5* players and Cal doesn't have 3* players, just like Izzo didn't have a 5* AA PG on last year's team. That's nobody's fault but his own. Recruiting is part of his job. Matter of fact, imo, recruiting is the main part of the job. It's the lifeline to the program. I don't care how good of a coach you are, without elite players, there is no elite program.

This is like me saying "Well, if Poy doesn't get hurt, then UK easily goes 40-0 last year". No matter how much validity that statement may have, the simple fact is Poy did hurt and UK didn't go 40-0. So, excuse me when I say you can take your hypotheticals and shove em.

 

[Bigblueforever]

Lol those kids would have been top picks straight out of HS if they were allowed. You think Calipari is the reason Davis, Noel, Wall, etc were top picks?

Thinking don,t get it done, can you prove different? They did at Kentucky & you can't change that.

 

[AtomGreen]

Forgive me but you can shove it as well! The guy asked me a hypothetical; if I thought Tyus Jones would've still been a first round pick had he gone to MSU. It's kind of hard to answer a hypothetical question without getting, you know, all hypothetical.

I'm not sure why you're getting defensive about it anyways. I wasn't even talking about Kentucky, Cal or his players. Chill brah. It's just a forum and I am FAR from disrespectful towards Cal or Kentucky.

Why do fans of other teams always do this? It's always "Give such and such 5* players" or "Give Cal 3* star players". They always come up with these hypotheticals to add something to the coach/team they root for and/or take something form Cal/UK. It never fails. Every. Single. Time.

Well, you know what? Such and such doesn't have 5* players and Cal doesn't have 3* players, just like Izzo didn't have a 5* AA PG on last year's team. That's nobody's fault but his own. Recruiting is part of his job. Matter of fact, imo, recruiting is the main part of the job. It's the lifeline to the program. I don't care how good of a coach you are, without elite players, there is no elite program.

This is like me saying "Well, if Poy doesn't get hurt, then UK easily goes 40-0 last year". No matter how much validity that statement may have, the simple fact is Poy did hurt and UK didn't go 40-0. So, excuse me when I say you can take your hypotheticals and shove em.

 

[Rossardio]

So funny how we always get the troll runoffs from other fanbases on here when they're in competition with us for a recruit. Izzo ain't the best recruiter out there, but it's not like this is his first potential 5 star. Calm down.

 

[Clive Gollings]

So funny how we always get the troll runoffs from other fanbases on here when they're in competition with us for a recruit. Izzo ain't the best recruiter out there, but it's not like this is his first potential 5 star. Calm down.

They get a chance to post on the big boy board.

 

[CarolinaCat11]

I have to say -- I'm starting to become a bit unsettling how some (I'm sure it's a minority) of MSU fans are practically beginning a kid to "stay home/go to MSU." Don't get me wrong -- I want Bridges at UK as bad as any Cats fan -- and I realize some definitely do this with our recruits as well -- but I hope not this bad.

I know it's exciting for those fans to potentially land him because he can be a difference maker -- but it's a bit borderline odd. These people who want him so badly at MSU - will they spurn him if he chooses UK? Also -- some
seem so "offended" that most experts still predict UK -- but yet they're "sure" they'll get him. If you're so "sure" - why care what they experts say? I don't know -- just different.

 

[Willy4UK]

I have to say -- I'm starting to become a bit unsettling how some (I'm sure it's a minority) of MSU fans are practically beginning a kid to "stay home/go to MSU." Don't get me wrong -- I want Bridges at UK as bad as any Cats fan -- and I realize some definitely do this with our recruits as well -- but I hope not this bad.

I know it's exciting for those fans to potentially land him because he can be a difference maker -- but it's a bit borderline odd. These people who want him so badly at MSU - will they spurn him if he chooses UK? Also -- some
seem so "offended" that most experts still predict UK -- but yet they're "sure" they'll get him. If you're so "sure" - why care what they experts say? I don't know -- just different.

Something's off with this post.

 

[kentucky_wildcat_#1]

Something's off with this post.

I thought it was a lil odd myself. Glad i'm not the only one. Of course MSU fans are begging this kid to go to MSU. He's from their state and is elite. They are not Kentucky. If they lose out on this kid, it hurts more for them. When we lose out on a 5star talent, we recruit and land another. Izzo is a great coach, but not great at recruiting. The lack of onendones is what hurts Izzo in this race imo. For Izzo, it's been a long time. For Cal, it's the last draft held year after year. I know this sounds smug and cocky, but it's the truth. If this kid decides to stay home and play for the Spartans, good for him. I won't root against him. If he wants to lead a team to the title, he will come here and be very rich a year later. We will see.

 

[wcc31]

So funny how we always get the troll runoffs from other fanbases on here when they're in competition with us for a recruit. Izzo ain't the best recruiter out there, but it's not like this is his first potential 5 star. Calm down.

For the most part, I don't think the Spartan fans have been too bad, and not really trolls.

 

[CousinofSparty]

Here is the latest from an IU mod on TOS
Justin Albers ‏@Justin_Albers 13m13 minutes ago
Multiple sources tell me tonight they would be “shocked” if 2016 F Miles Bridges does not commit to Michigan State on Oct. 3. #iubb