To lazy to look it up, but I believe Volkswagen made a $5B investment in Rivian in past few weeks(?)
Anyone Here Have An Electric Car?
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Glad you and your son are ok. Hopefully no lasting effects....
You beat me to it. Still not buying an EV.Just read that Rivian has made a $5 billion deal with VW to provide the operating system for the new Scout products that will be built in South Carolina. I’m not hating it.
Thankfully, just a sore shoulder. Son has a tinge of driving anxiety now but we’re good. Thank you
Glad you guys are ok. Getting t-boned like that is serious shit. A friend of my wife's got t-boned while riding on the passenger's side a couple of years ago and she was in the hospital and rehab facility for about 2 months.
Just returned from Iceland this past Saturday night after a week's visit from 6-13 July. Takeaways:
- Icelanders, especially around Reykjavik metro, seem very fond of EVs in general and Tesla's in particular. See pics below covering ~1-mile hike I made from hostel to Netto supermarket and back.
- Yes, they have much better infrastructure for EV than USA. Read up on Iceland's famed geothermal capacity and potential. But also Icelanders possess different attitudes + mindsets. For example, recycling is considerably more widespread over there.
During my hike, I encountered perhaps 10-15 EVs parked. Majority were Tesla, but also noted a Chevy Volt, Volvo EV and even a Ford Mustang EV. Granted, area I hiked has a high population density.
As little as we drive our personal vehicles (< 4,400miles/year over 11 year period), one would think we'd jump on EV train. No, not yet.
- Icelanders, especially around Reykjavik metro, seem very fond of EVs in general and Tesla's in particular. See pics below covering ~1-mile hike I made from hostel to Netto supermarket and back.
- Yes, they have much better infrastructure for EV than USA. Read up on Iceland's famed geothermal capacity and potential. But also Icelanders possess different attitudes + mindsets. For example, recycling is considerably more widespread over there.
During my hike, I encountered perhaps 10-15 EVs parked. Majority were Tesla, but also noted a Chevy Volt, Volvo EV and even a Ford Mustang EV. Granted, area I hiked has a high population density.
As little as we drive our personal vehicles (< 4,400miles/year over 11 year period), one would think we'd jump on EV train. No, not yet.
EVs make sense in a country with a concentrated population and whose total size is just slightly larger than Indiana. In other words, the entire country, or at least the parts folks would drive to, is within the range of most electric vehicles on one charge. So, even w/o better charging infrastructure, it's more manageable to own an EV there.
Really want to go to Iceland in the next couple of years. A guy I used to work with has been twice. He's also a professional photographer and his pics from there are jaw dropping.Just returned from Iceland this past Saturday night after a week's visit from 6-13 July. Takeaways:
- Icelanders, especially around Reykjavik metro, seem very fond of EVs in general and Tesla's in particular. See pics below covering ~1-mile hike I made from hostel to Netto supermarket and back.
- Yes, they have much better infrastructure for EV than USA. Read up on Iceland's famed geothermal capacity and potential. But also Icelanders possess different attitudes + mindsets. For example, recycling is considerably more widespread over there.
During my hike, I encountered perhaps 10-15 EVs parked. Majority were Tesla, but also noted a Chevy Volt, Volvo EV and even a Ford Mustang EV. Granted, area I hiked has a high population density.
As little as we drive our personal vehicles (< 4,400miles/year over 11 year period), one would think we'd jump on EV train. No, not yet.
I split my trip between Akureyi and Reykjavik. Strangely, weather much better further north you go. Experienced 60s and sunshine up in Akureyi, but 50s and overcast down around Reykjavik. Many locations where Game of Thrones filmed lie east of Reykjavik. But locations for filming of True Detective, season 4, are at Dalvik and Akureyi in far north. Sunshine up there seriously spoiled me. Difference was filming happened during winter for True Detective. Jodie Foster commented producers would have gladly filmed in Alaska where story is set, but infrastructure is simply not there.
Landscapes in both places are spectacular in their own way.
Expanding geothermal power beyond Iceland and American West. Sounds promising. Win-win if successful.
www.popsci.com
'The world is not prepared:' How AI energy thirst might tap into geothermal power
With fracking-inspired tech, geothermal plants no longer need to be near hot geysers and volcanoes.
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A country the size of the US, with it's power needs, has only one solution at present. Nuclear power plants.
Like I've said before; anyone that claims to be concerned about global warming/the envrionment, that isn't advocating full bore for nuclear energy is a fraud. There is no arguing that. Nuclear power plants have no peer, and most of the people on here will be dead before something better is developed. We know this. It's science.
It still won't make EV's more eco friendly than an extremely efficient IC car (until battery technology improves light years) , but it will help in other areas.
Like I've said before; anyone that claims to be concerned about global warming/the envrionment, that isn't advocating full bore for nuclear energy is a fraud. There is no arguing that. Nuclear power plants have no peer, and most of the people on here will be dead before something better is developed. We know this. It's science.
It still won't make EV's more eco friendly than an extremely efficient IC car (until battery technology improves light years) , but it will help in other areas.
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I mean they are heavily investing right now, so they are going to take on losses right now.
Do you all know how much better life would be if we were powered by all nuclear / solar electric (instead of gas vehicles)? Air quality would be a zillion times better.
Will hit 50K miles on my TESLA in the next couple days. Still no issues so far.
I had 2 patients recently start talking to each other about both of their experiences with Tesla. One had multiple issues with his until he dumped it......now has a Rivian. The other patient is currently going through his 2nd issue with his Tesla.
I saw my first cyber truck on the highway the other day.
It's damn ugly.
And Elon was making fun of the way Rams look.
I drove from Louisville up to around Cincinnati recently and saw my first one up near Cincinnati. Then on the same trip, saw one just past Cincinnati (Sharonville) on a trailer in a Micro Center parking lot.
A guy in my neighborhood has a TESLA too and it's older than mine. I haven't talked to him in months, but he hadn't had any issues either at that time.
Mine has really been a good car. I will buy another when the time comes. I really like the fact I don't have the maintenance I do with ICE machines. For me personally, I wouldn't have an EV for my only vehicle though.
I've seen several here in South Florida. Ugliest damn vehicle I've ever seen. It looks like something I would have sketched when I was in the 2nd grade. My wife said it looked like a vehicle that a vocational school sheet metal shop class would have built. If Tesla GAVE me one, it would have to be with the understanding that I would have the title and could sell it.
I don't like the looks, but I'd absolutely drive one if it was given to me. My ego has never been affected by what I drive.
Had a gud ol boah tell me I need to sell my Jeep and get a proper truck when I moved to Idaho. Said that's something he might let his wife drive. LOL.
Sounds like a very functional, fun vehicle to drive. If it held up well and met my off-road and basic needs, I may even learn to like the looks, ... maybe. Who gaf for free?
Had a gud ol boah tell me I need to sell my Jeep and get a proper truck when I moved to Idaho. Said that's something he might let his wife drive. LOL.
Sounds like a very functional, fun vehicle to drive. If it held up well and met my off-road and basic needs, I may even learn to like the looks, ... maybe. Who gaf for free?
New safety concern regarding EVs in light of the recent hurricane.
metro.co.uk
Salt water is making electric cars blow up after Hurricane Helene
Nearly 100 people are believed to have died, and millions have been affected by power outages.
metro.co.uk
I'll try to keep away from saltwater.New safety concern regarding EVs in light of the recent hurricane.
Salt water is making electric cars blow up after Hurricane Helene
Nearly 100 people are believed to have died, and millions have been affected by power outages.
I'm not sure if that is true with Teslas. In my experience, people are generally positive about them.
People generally love the vehicles themselves and they love the customer service......but they have a lot of issues. Elon Musk (who I'm a fan of....as well as a fan of Tesla itself) was asked about Tesla's poor quality, he noted "We'll worry about reliability when there's a Tesla in every driveway."
Tesla is one the least reliable car brands.
EV's have ~80% more problems than ICE vehicles in general.
Electric vehicles have almost 80% more problems than gas-powered ones, Consumer Reports says
As the government begins to mandate the use of more electric vehicles, many consumers report that their EVs are not as reliable as gas-powered vehicles.
letscleartheairnow.org
A study from UK states that 1/3 of Teslas have significant issues within 3 yrs of ownership....though remain the #1 popular EV company.
Tesla was both the least reliable but most popular EV brand in a survey of owners that found one in three of all EVs had major issues in the past year
UK drivers polled by a consumer reviews site experienced a higher rate of problems with fully electric vehicles than they did with gas-powered cars.
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If you google, you can also find plenty of articles about Tesla owners being very loyal to the brand. I've had a Model S for over a year and am generally pleased with it. There are problems here and there, but the experience generally is a good one.People generally love the vehicles themselves and they love the customer service......but they have a lot of issues. Elon Musk (who I'm a fan of....as well as a fan of Tesla itself) was asked about Tesla's poor quality, he noted "We'll worry about reliability when there's a Tesla in every driveway."
Tesla is one the least reliable car brands.
EV's have ~80% more problems than ICE vehicles in general.
Electric vehicles have almost 80% more problems than gas-powered ones, Consumer Reports says
As the government begins to mandate the use of more electric vehicles, many consumers report that their EVs are not as reliable as gas-powered vehicles.
A study from UK states that 1/3 of Teslas have significant issues within 3 yrs of ownership....though remain the #1 popular EV company.
Tesla was both the least reliable but most popular EV brand in a survey of owners that found one in three of all EVs had major issues in the past year
UK drivers polled by a consumer reviews site experienced a higher rate of problems with fully electric vehicles than they did with gas-powered cars.
I don't dispute loyalty at all. This whole thread started when someone asked about EV's in general.......basically opening the gates to the pros/cons. I'm one who desires to be an informed consumer no matter the product.
You can certainly enjoy a product and be loyal while also acknowledging the cons.
For example, Jeeps. I had a Wrangler for a while and man was it a blast......I loved it. It was so fun to pull the doors off, go off-roading, etc. But it bucked a lot due to the short wheelbase, it was very slow and didn't corner well, had poor gas mileage, limited interior space, and though I personally didn't have any issues with my Wrangler, I certainly was aware of Jeep's poor quality. Doesn't mean that I didn't like it.
At least in my experience, the cons with a Tesla are relatively minor things - the interior, some dumb things like the defrost, windshield wiper sensors, etc. Other cars do those things better - much better in fact. But as far as the battery and the "tech" aspect of it, I have no complaints at all.
I have had BMW i4 for 3 months. I love the appearance. BMW seems to have basically replaced the ICE drivetrain with BEV so it looks exactly like a 4 series Gran Coupe. It’s a lease so I’m not concerned about longevity.
Not an ego thing for me. I bought an 85 Tacoma 4x4 that started rusting by 1991. I drove the wheels off it until 2000 and over 400K miles were on it. It looked like hell, but it was still good, rugged transportation. The Cyber Truck is just bizarre.
That's why I started this thread...to give an unbiased experience in owning a TESLA.People generally love the vehicles themselves and they love the customer service......but they have a lot of issues. Elon Musk (who I'm a fan of....as well as a fan of Tesla itself) was asked about Tesla's poor quality, he noted "We'll worry about reliability when there's a Tesla in every driveway."
Tesla is one the least reliable car brands.
EV's have ~80% more problems than ICE vehicles in general.
Electric vehicles have almost 80% more problems than gas-powered ones, Consumer Reports says
As the government begins to mandate the use of more electric vehicles, many consumers report that their EVs are not as reliable as gas-powered vehicles.
A study from UK states that 1/3 of Teslas have significant issues within 3 yrs of ownership....though remain the #1 popular EV company.
Tesla was both the least reliable but most popular EV brand in a survey of owners that found one in three of all EVs had major issues in the past year
UK drivers polled by a consumer reviews site experienced a higher rate of problems with fully electric vehicles than they did with gas-powered cars.
I've been fortunate in the cars I've owned over the last 50 yrs. I really haven't had many problems with any I've owned and I've owned practically all the brands.
I remember telling my sister-in-law that her son's truck was really nice and she said, "yeah, but it's a FORD". I told her that the Ford F-150 is the all time best seller of all pick up trucks, but that didn't sway her thinking.
"Unbiased" is the reason why I've posted so much in these last 16+ pages of the pros and the cons. Like with so many other things, often a diversive trend emerges between the population of people who are all in on EV's and those that are dead set against. Both of these populations spew statements that aren't factual and often refuse to see the other side.
I had a 78 Jeep CJ5 Renegade. It was a blast to drive in the summer, but a cold winter day was brutal if you had to go more than 10 miles, and not cornering well is an understatement. I had it up on two wheels on more than one occasion without driving what I’d consider recklessly.
Mine was a 1993 with a whopping ~123 hp inline 4 sitting on 33's........it was slooooooooow......but was a billy goat off-road. Man, they are fun.
A global slump in sales is prompting automakers to rethink the rush to EVs.
Reports of the death of the internal combustion engine have been greatly exaggerated. In the wake of stalled consumer demand and stubbornly high costs, automakers around the world are furiously backpedalling plans to go all-in on EVs within the next 10 years, as well as rethinking their approach to the internal combustion engine. Those who bet biggest on electric vehicles are now ruefully eyeing big hits to their bottom line. Or worse.
Ford, for example, has stopped work on a three-row electric-powered SUV, a decision that will reportedly cost the company $1.9 billion. “We could not put together a vehicle that met our requirements to be profitable in the first 12 months of launch,” Ford Motor Company chief financial officer John Lawler said. Ford’s EV division, Model e, reported a $2.5 billion loss for the first half of this year and is expected to lose between $5 billion and $5.5 billion by year’s end.
Reports of the death of the internal combustion engine have been greatly exaggerated. In the wake of stalled consumer demand and stubbornly high costs, automakers around the world are furiously backpedalling plans to go all-in on EVs within the next 10 years, as well as rethinking their approach to the internal combustion engine. Those who bet biggest on electric vehicles are now ruefully eyeing big hits to their bottom line. Or worse.
Ford, for example, has stopped work on a three-row electric-powered SUV, a decision that will reportedly cost the company $1.9 billion. “We could not put together a vehicle that met our requirements to be profitable in the first 12 months of launch,” Ford Motor Company chief financial officer John Lawler said. Ford’s EV division, Model e, reported a $2.5 billion loss for the first half of this year and is expected to lose between $5 billion and $5.5 billion by year’s end.
