You are the last one on here to question ethics. The guy was demonstrating that 2020 was a legitimate basketball team. Since there was no tournament that year there was no actual seed so projection is the only available data.
And you say I make things up? I'm all for thoughtful discussion, but that is never your goal here.
I'm just commenting on what I observe. You have questionable morals. You DID invent the 2 seed; it doesn't exist. You seem desperate to make a point if you are willing to lie to make it.
Are you factoring in the Covid year since you are being factually correct? I don’t see it anywhere. Shouldn’t be included in the numbers of how long it’s been since a title, since nobody could win it
Gold standard. That's what he was given charge over. Turned it into something else.
You're right about that. Way over due to at least win a game or 2 in the tournament. Most people don't recognize how long it has been since we actually won an NCAA tournament GAME!!
And like someone else posted, we made THREE coaching changes during that drought.
Mike Krzyzewski has 5 in 40 years and he is supposedly the GOAT. And the last two of those were absolute gifts in 2010 and 2015 because he didn’t have to play UK.
That's some fuzzy math right there. We are talking about UK, the program, winning a NC every 9 years on average.
How is it fuzzy math? Cal can't control what a prior coach did.
Math isn't fuzzy, it's number and they don't lie. I just cherry picked certain dates like everyone else in the thread. The thread is leaning to the Bash Cal side of the board so I just used his years here to show he is still on pace.
Op was talking about UK average years between NC, not individual coaches.
Overdue -on average- I just pointed out two much longer droughts. I don't think you grasp statistics well.
Cherry picking stats to me is what I call fuzzy math, which ever "side" is doing it.
I agree with being gifted the last two. But Duke didn't have much prestige before him (two runner ups in their history and that's it). He's been to 12 Final Fours, won 5 championships, and was runner-up three times. So of 12 trips, K has played on Monday night eight times. Pretty incredible.
Because they were horrible coaches that players didn't want to play for. Recruiting is part of coaching, you realize that right?
Allen and Hopkins are returning? You sure about that? Also, Oscar? Really? You SURE?
You must have missed that little word "possibly". Carry on.
He should have used that "possibly " word that I used.
This is absolutely false. Joe B and Tubby were both definitely on the hot seat. At least half the fan base wanted both of them gone. That’s being “pressured out”.
Mitch tells a much different story. On one hand there is a bratty fanbase. On the other hand there is the actual administration that makes the calls. Guess which one matters.
If you think the fanbase doesn’t have an impact, you’re wrong.
Not the impact Foks on here fantasize about. From the little I hear, Raftards is considered the crazies. I think Cal has made his opinion known on the subject. Complete and utter disregard and contempt.
Just for some perspective.
Yes simple, no one can doubt that last year was an absolutely horrendous year. However most people that know the cane fill UK should’ve had a onesie and 17 and they were headed toward one seed and 20 and I realize the fact is it didn’t happen. But to act like we weren’t close to onesies for the past few years not true
The truth no one on this board wants to hear. The modern game is just different. Schools and prestige don't move the needle with recruits anymore. Any program is one bad hire away from irrelevancy.
I never said they were leaving, Einstein. You are the master of assuming statements not in evidence.
Okay, we were absolutely not headed toward a 1 seed in 2020. We had a fine year and were likely headed for a 2 seed, maybe a 3 but we 100% we’re not going to get a 1 seed in 2020. I’d say so if we were, no need to lie about it.
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You can call it a complaint if you’d like, I’m going to call it a fact. It’s the longest we’ve ever gone without a one seed. You can extrapolate whatever opinion out of that statistical fact that you would like. That seed average also doesn’t account for having the literal worst year in Kentucky basketball history in the post 2015 span. That has to be accounted for somehow, it can’t just be thrown out. You're essentially "rating" the 2013 season and the 2021 season the same which isn't accurate at all. The "seed average" would be worse if we were good enough to get a 9 seed than it is since we were 9-16. That's a pretty drastic flaw. You have to account for 9-16 somehow.
By trying to contradict the point that the program has established precedent and thereby expectations to maintain precedent, they severely attempt to lower those expectations and devalue an established tradition that predates many of their own existences.
