“I’m not sure why he isn’t playing.”
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I will agree that we should wait to see what comes of this..
But how else can you explain whats going on? Hard to see how this isn't a huge problem, not only for this year, but going forward. I see now way how someone could spin this isn't not being a big deal. Highly unlikely this is just some sort of mix up and everything will be honky dory by Saturday. I hope I'm wrong.
I'm over wishy washy fans just waiting for anything negative to occur to pounce on Cal. It's just childish.
The calboi morning shift just clocked in.
You still got that Cal man crush I see. It is interesting to me that you are obviously a John MacArthur fan. (For those who don’t know, he’s a preacher who quite often calls out other preachers by name as heretics). And yet you fail to see the charlatan that Cal is? That’s wild. If Cal were a preacher, your boy would have called him out. He’s a used car salesman - slimy, crooked, lover of money who will do anything to get it and keep it. Your favorite preacher has some discernment. You, not so much.
Yeah. Losing sucks, but it happens. It’s the losing + the drama that is tiresome.
Come on man.
You know the only reason that Adou got those minutes was because both Bradshaw and Onyenso were injured and Z was ineligible and Cal had no other choice than to play Adou.
What happened as soon as Bradshaw came back?
And now Z is eligible and Onyenso is available also.
Whose minutes got taken away at that point?
Who came out of the starting lineup when Bradshaw came back?
Who had EARNED more playing time based on game production at the point Bradshaw came back???
It is OK to support your idol, but at least post your information in context of what actually has taken place with Adou's playing time.
If Adou is injured, he needs to get healed up. We need him in the worst sort of way. We have no one who can match his energy, hustle and physicality on the floor.
If Cal continues to play these soft @$$ 5 star freshmen boys against the opponents 3 star, hungry, physical, disrespected, grown @$$ men, this season will end up like the last 7 years.
In bitter disappointment for the fans of UK basketball, lamenting what could have been with this team.
Cal needs to stop with the BS, and coach this team. If he can.
That means starting and playing the players who give us the best chance to win the game.
Cal simply isn't doing that. As usual. He has another agenda.
Unfortunate for UK fans who want to win another championship.
There is not perfect lineup for this team.
It will be game to game the rest of the season.
A front line of Trey, Adou, and Antonio is not cutting down the nets.
Cal is not wrong in trying to establish a big.
I love Adou but he is a tweener.
I have no problems with him playing Justin's minutes as long as he doesn't think he's a two guard and fall in love with jacking three's.
Lol. Are you just trying to deflect, or are we just failing to communicate??
Everyone knows Cal has to have a dominant rim protector at center on defense because of his inability to teach how to defend pick and roll or pick and pop and always gives up either open 3's or straight line drives for layups/dunks.
Let me make it plain for you. When Bradshaw came back into the lineup, who had EARNED the right to keep their minutes by their play on the floor, Edwards or Adou??
Who remained in the starting lineup and who had to give up not only starter minutes but also game minutes unless someone got in foul trouble??
I'll hang up and listen.
I'd say he liked Adou more at the 4 and wanted Justin as the 3.
Some of it was him waiting for Justin to takeoff which hadn't happened.
I agree Adou couldn't play any worse than Justin at the 3.
Cal has to admit that now and give it a try.
I've never said that Justin should continue to start.
Is it a coincidence that after Ugo and Bradshaw both returned Adou's minutes dropped from 25 mpg to 14.5 mpg over the next 2 games and he hasn't played since? Is he mad about his decrease in minutes and sitting out?
And completely unfair to Thiero for Cal to say this in the media if his intent is to call out the medical staff. All he did was make Thiero look bad. If he has a question for the medical staff he needs to ask the f’n medical staff, in private. Not make ambiguous comments in the media that could be construed as he has a guy who doesn’t want to play.
Exactly. Completely tone-deaf, immature, and bush league of Cal to make that statement in the media. Basically threw Thiero under the bus when he is the best damn player on the whole team from the 10 games I saw.
I hope Thiero is back next year and Cal isn’t.
I’m not a big fan of being accused of being a conspiracy theorist when all it takes is a shred of critical thinking skills to realize something wasn’t quite adding up here.
I never even said what I thought it was, just that something didn’t smell right.
Yet, another conspiracy theory? We have had 4 this season. Onyenso, Bradshaw, Ivisic and now Thiero. Same guys posting with the same types of conspiracy nonsense. I will admit I know nothing about the day to day operation at UK. However, I do know that Bradshaw is playing at UK, not USC, not using the school like Sharpe did and not just training for the NBA. He is practicing and playing for the Cats. Same for Onyenso and, Same thing for Ivisic. It will be the same for Thiero. When are you guys gonna give it a rest? You are always wrong but, to your credit and determination, you are always fast to jump on the next conspiracy ride. Ride fast and hard boys because the sane people get to watch you be wrong again. Thank you, J. Vanderbilt.
You know what's crazy.. I did mention earlier in that thread "..Or maybe Thiero's decision".. thinking it might be him who just wants to make sure he was ready to come back.. but really thought that was highly unlikely of a player to NOT want to play.
Turns out, that what this may be.
We have some guilty parties here. I know we will all take Cal to task here. But we also need to figure out why the hell Thiero is *potentially* choosing he'd rather not play.
Do you have any rational explanation for Cal’s bizarre and completely out of line quote last night?
I’m guessing you also believed Wheeler had a “sprained ankle” and missed senior night due to a “minor surgical procedure.”
True he did throw Adou under the bus.
I was just genuinely curious if there had been something on HOB or student scuttlebutt that there was a riff between Justin and Adou or Adou and Cal.
Some posters have posted it as more fact that opinion
I think it’s all just speculation at this point based on 2 and 2 not adding up to 4.
Cal’s quote last night just made it 100x worse.
Bad dude for sure.
He's sitting, but it's not because of injury. Cal basically clarified that Thiero CAN play, and that Thiero SHOULD play (or else lose playing time to the other guys as Cal alluded to). So we know that he's not injured, and we know that he's chosen to not play.
I know this much, when I went to games last season we would always show up an hour and a half before tip (as soon as they opened the doors)
Every time we got in there would be one dude out on the court getting shots up before the game. Adou Thiero would be out there alone or sometimes with one other guy. But always Adou.
This guy busts his ass on gameday during the game and puts the work in. I didn’t think he got a fair shake last year. I hope this blows over and we see Adou out there kicking ass, soon.
Every time we got in there would be one dude out on the court getting shots up before the game. Adou Thiero would be out there alone or sometimes with one other guy. But always Adou.
This guy busts his ass on gameday during the game and puts the work in. I didn’t think he got a fair shake last year. I hope this blows over and we see Adou out there kicking ass, soon.
And that's ultimately a Thiero problem. Sure, Cal isn't great, and he's seemingly playing the wrong guys. But it's Thiero who is choosing to not play. Every college roster in America has bench guys who think they deserve to be starting. Why is Thiero's case any different.
And not for nothing Thiero.. You're not Kawhi Leonard. You're not THAT good that you can just bench yourself in frustration.
Cal really has to ditch the playera-first shit if he wants to continue here. Every year we now have players trying to call the shots. Can't have that. Enough of trying to placate to these guys, especially when they aren't even high caliber recruits..
I'll wait to get the full details, but this is a bad look for Adou, and if true, needs to be removed from the team just to save face and send a message.
It's a shame our program is in a place that the first place our fans minds go in these instances is a guy is sitting out not that he is legit hurt.
This is one of those situations that needs to be sorted out asap. Or else we run the risk of the rumor mill starting up like we saw with Wheeler last year.
He isn't hurt. Cal all but said that. He's choosing to not play, most of us know why that is. His dad basically said everyone will know the real reason when the time is right. Edwards knows what's going on, too, and doesn't have the maturity to defer to a better player.
I can see you have no interest in real talk. I’m asking you for your take on what Cal said last night. If you won’t respond to the actual question, you’re as worthless as that kybassfan dude I have on ignore.
So what do you make of Cals quotes after the game about Thiero? There's clearly something happening, some sort of disconnect.
Not every one of these incidents turns into something (JV, Bradshaw).. but not all of them turn out to be a non-issue either (Sharpe).. we have to be able to take the info as we have it and not assume everything is fine or everything is a disaster.
I think it's clear the players need to play some dodgeball against the coaching staff. That worked wonders with that 2013 NIT team.
